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CO & UA+ Star, Will VRG,GOL Stand A Chance?  
User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2941 posts, RR: 10
Posted (6 years 4 months 4 days ago) and read 3805 times:
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if CO and UA successfully partner, then Star Alliance will have a decent amount of routes to South America from the USA. Will they still want TAM or would VRG/GOL be a wiser choice for connections throughout Brazil?


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User currently offlineOta1 From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3691 times:
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Brazil is South America's largest market, with many destinations not being served internationally. CO will definitely strengthen Star's LatAm network, but unless CS and Aero Republica don't join as well, it still will be weak for travel within LatAm. So I think bringing in a member from Southern America will be essential in order to compete with OW and ST.
Given that JJ has codeshare agreements with UA, TP and LH in place and recently signed MOUs with AC and LX about future codesharing I suppose we'll more likely see them join *A than VRG/GOL.


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7554 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3479 times:

GOL is rumored to be joining Skyteam


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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3341 times:



Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
Will they still want TAM or would VRG/GOL be a wiser choice for connections throughout Brazil?

All alliances want TAM, as the airline means access to the Brazilian domestic network, something extremelly important to any airline. There is no doubt that TAM is very close to Star and an announcement is expected this year. But Sky hasnt given up and OW still has hopes considering TAM has a comprehensive partnership with LA.

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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11442 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3274 times:
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Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
if CO and UA successfully partner, then Star Alliance will have a decent amount of routes to South America from the USA. Will they still want TAM or would VRG/GOL be a wiser choice for connections throughout Brazil?

CO and UA will only provide what you mentioned: routes from US to South America, but in a very limited number. TAM will continue to be prepared for join Star during the next 6 months and as per Brazilian Press, it's rumored to announce something in the next weeks.

Not to forget that probably CM could focus also to left SkyTeam in favor of Star Alliance.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 3):
But Sky hasnt given up and OW still has hopes considering TAM has a comprehensive partnership with LA.

IMO Hardi, this partnership with LA was solely to block G3/RG to grow so much in South America. OW after the dismissal of AA partnership has no chance to attract JJ.



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User currently offlineOta1 From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3263 times:
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Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 4):
TAM will continue to be prepared for join Star during the next 6 months and as per Brazilian Press, it's rumored to announce something in the next weeks.

I hope so! To have JJ in Star Alliance would be absolutely gorgeous.

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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11442 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3118 times:
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Quoting Ota1 (Reply 5):
I hope so! To have JJ in Star Alliance would be absolutely gorgeous.

Everything is going on this direction (JJ -> Star). Agreements made with UA, TP, LH, LX, AC.. South African probably will be the next one and CA won't take longer also.



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User currently offlineLaxboeingman From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 578 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2679 times:

If the two airlines merge, does that mean that CO will be out of Sky Team? If they will still be part of Sky Team, will they pay more attention to Star and UA? Speaking of UA does this mean no US merger?

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User currently offlineOta1 From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2565 times:
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Quoting Laxboeingman (Reply 7):
If the two airlines merge, does that mean that CO will be out of Sky Team? If they will still be part of Sky Team, will they pay more attention to Star and UA? Speaking of UA does this mean no US merger?

First of UA and CO are not going to merge. Well at least for the time being. The have agreed on starting a very close cooperation including broad codesharing within the US, an antitrust immunized TATL alliance along with AC and LH as well as cooperation in terms of IT, FFPs, usage of airport facilities, marketing and supplies. Yes, CO will leave SkyTeam (but that will take some time; they'll be able to leave 9 months after the DL/NW merger actually happens) and join Star Alliance.
No, there won't be a UA/US merger. UA walked away from merger talks when they were close to finalize talks about the new alliance with CO.


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