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A Quick Question On B787 Delays  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12410 posts, RR: 37
Posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1959 times:

I was just wondering why some airlines (for example Monarch and Royal Jordanian) have delays to the delivery of their first 787s which are up to two and a half years, while other carriers seem to be much less affected.

Why is this? Is it because of the engine choice selected? Or that Boeing is cutting back on the production rate initially planned, so later customers are having their deliveries "pushed out"? Other factors?

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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1851 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
I was just wondering why some airlines (for example Monarch and Royal Jordanian) have delays to the delivery of their first 787s which are up to two and a half years, while other carriers seem to be much less affected.

Why is this? Is it because of the engine choice selected? Or that Boeing is cutting back on the production rate initially planned, so later customers are having their deliveries "pushed out"? Other factors?

It's the latter part...slowing the production rate disproportionately affects customers that are later in the firing order. If you cut the the production rate in half, people who were supposed to get their orders in the second half of the first year are slid 6-12 months. Those who were supposed to get their orders in the forth year slide 48 months...major different.

Obviously, Boeing is continuously increaseing the rate (once they get going) so it's not a straight scaled slide, but it's worse the deeper you are in the production line.

Tom.


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12410 posts, RR: 37
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1749 times:

Many thanks, Tdcsanuck!

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

Also, Boeing are likely not contractually obligated to keep everyone in original delivery order. They are only obligated to pay compensation for delaying a delivery. This means that they may favor larger customers, or customers with less favorable terms for delays, and then let the chips fall where they may. With 900 orders and no chance to fill them all in any reasonable timeframe, even if that meant seeing some smaller carriers cancel, it's a result Boeing would have to live with.

For many carriers, they just don't have a choice. Cancel and then what? Buy A350s? They would be available even later based on current order books. Buy A330s or 777s? They could do that now, but they are either not capable enough or too large. Buy 767s? Not likely either.



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