DGHiggins From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 23 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 11 months 23 hours ago) and read 5660 times:
Anybody have details - or the real story??
Seven killed in Sudan cargo plane crash
Source: Agence France-Presse English Wire Date: June 27, 2008
A cargo plane crashed in Sudan on Friday, killing seven crew members, five of them foreigners, a spokesman for the civil aviation authority said. It is the second aviation accident in Sudan in less than three weeks. Abdel Hafiz told AFP that the Juba Cargo company plane crashed an hour and 10 minutes after take off from Khartoum, bound for the southern Sudanese capital Juba, apparently owing to bad weather. "One person survived out of eight (crew members). His name is Mohamed Hamza, a Sudanese. Two Sudanese were among the dead (along with) four from Ukraine and one from Armenia," Hafiz said.
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 7771 posts, RR: 26 Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 16 hours ago) and read 5174 times:
It is not only standard, it is necessary - Pilot, F/O, F/E, Navigator, Loadmaster makes already 5 and the others are mechanics. These ops are self sustained as there are no stations or personell where they operate.
Scalebuilder From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 16 hours ago) and read 5154 times:
Quoting Ramzi (Reply 4): I don't know if this is an ignorant question, but why were there eight people on board? Are there even eight seats on the aircraft?
Your question is not ignorant.
At a minimum you can count two pilots, a flight engineer and a navigator on the AN-12. In some cases you could even have a radio operator for a total crew of five. The other souls onboard could have been relief crew.
There are limited seating areas on most cargo aircraft, and these may actually be located in the cargo hold itself when it comes to the AN-12. Nothing fancy but seats allright.
SIBILLE From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 450 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 4904 times:
Quoting Scalebuilder (Reply 7): At a minimum you can count two pilots, a flight engineer and a navigator on the AN-12. In some cases you could even have a radio operator for a total crew of five. The other souls onboard could have been relief crew.
There are limited seating areas on most cargo aircraft, and these may actually be located in the cargo hold itself when it comes to the AN-12. Nothing fancy but seats allright.
Here is a video I've made in an An-12. As you can see, there are 5 crew as discribed by Scalebuilder. Just after the cockpit, there is a presurised section whith seats for maximum 7 pax, and then a door to the unpresurised hold. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcdVK4zg2JA
ImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1230 posts, RR: 14 Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 7 hours ago) and read 4301 times:
Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 10): Here is a video I've made in an An-12
Yes, that is a great video. Thanks so much for sharing. I don't suppose there was much difference, if any, in sound insulation (or lack thereof) between pressurized and non-pressurized areas of the interior??!!
"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough!"
SIBILLE From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 450 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1644 times:
Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 12): I don't suppose there was much difference, if any, in sound insulation (or lack thereof) between pressurized and non-pressurized areas of the interior??!!
The door was always open. So, I didn't note any difference (and I was so excited to be there I didn't think about it )
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