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Abex 767 Catches Fire In SFO  
User currently offlineSiren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 342 posts, RR: 11
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 12797 times:

Very few details as yet, but apparently an Abex Air 767 caught fire on the Cargo ramp while parked. Fire was reported to the FAA at 10:18PM Pacific.

Aircraft in question is Abex Flt: 1611... attempted to look up on Flightaware, but I don't have any other info at this time.

Aircraft is parked at Plot 11 (if any SFO spotter knows where that is...)

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User currently offlineSiren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 342 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 12766 times:

More info... apparently the DHL and USPS areas have also been evac'd.

This isn't confirmed, but my source is saying the fire started in the flight deck.


User currently offlineSiren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 342 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 12729 times:

More info: Fire crews apparently cut a hole in the cockpit area to gain access. Plane was loaded and fueled.

SF Fire Dept is calling this contained now.

Crews have gotten the cargo door opened now - they say cargo is undamaged.

[Edited 2008-06-28 23:53:59]

User currently offlineSiren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 342 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12705 times:

Situation has been contained. Crews are now inspecting the aircraft...

User currently offlineSiren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 342 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12691 times:

http://cbs5.com/localwire/22.0.html?type=bcn&item=PLANE-FIRE-bagm-

Article on the incident...

[Edited 2008-06-29 00:02:55]

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12666 times:

Any News if power was on the Aircraft at the time.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineSiren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 342 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12647 times:

Believe so - it was fueled and loaded at the time this occurred...

User currently offlineCodyKDiamond From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12161 times:

Does anyone know the reg?

User currently offlineLeamside From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 444 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11951 times:

Photos of the burned DHL #799 can be viewed at http://www.pbase.com/ksfo/burned_dhl_767_sfo

User currently offlineCFMitch56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11867 times:

Nice pictures, Leamside. On the first picture, the caption refers to the open door, but it appears that it's just the window above the wing that's open. Can firefighters open those from the outside? From the picture, it looks more like they smashed the window to look in or spray water/foam.

Anyone else agree?

Next, according to airfleets, the ABX's youngest 767 is l/n 171, built in 1987. Cockpit damage and a burned-through fuselage must be costly to fix. Will this one ever fly again or is it likely to be written off?


User currently offlineHapppyLandings From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11817 times:



Quoting CFMitch56 (Reply 9):
Will this one ever fly again or is it likely to be written off?

I am no expert, but it seems like it might be written off... I would imagine the internal damage must be great, the floor, wiring, hydraulics etc etc...

I could be wrong though.


User currently offlineBrowntailWhale From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11777 times:

Too bad for ABX as this a/c is one of the few that they have with a cargo door that they will need in hopes of survival after DHL cancels their ACMI.

User currently offlineCFMitch56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11727 times:

The photos site from Leamside says the aircraft is N799AX, a former NH 767-281, built 1986 and converted to -F in 2003
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User currently offlineTwinOtter4Ever From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11685 times:

Doesn't look like the fire was in the cockpit...but just aft of it....Perhaps a wiring short in that location or a overly hot light fixture?...hmm time will tell...but that does look a little bad and a little hot.

User currently onlineLawnDart From United States of America, joined May 2005, 972 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11588 times:

Quote from the CBS5 article:

The plane will be unusable for "a while,'' she said.

 laughing  Understatement of the year... laughing 


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12565 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11422 times:



Quoting CFMitch56 (Reply 9):
Cockpit damage and a burned-through fuselage must be costly to fix. Will this one ever fly again or is it likely to be written off?

Looking at the damage, this is more than likely a write-off.


User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10739 times:

Oh its trashed, They will probably pull the engines, but with that much smoke residue out the cockpit window i cant think of anything in there at this point that would be worth saving.
Actually the crew was fortunate to have gotten out considering the fire was behind them.



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User currently offlineAAH732UAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 10122 times:

Wow..... this is terrible news. I think this is one w/ the new expensive cockpit to boot.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25871 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 9560 times:



Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 16):
Oh its trashed, They will probably pull the engines, but with that much smoke residue out the cockpit window i cant think of anything in there at this point that would be worth saving.
Actually the crew was fortunate to have gotten out considering the fire was behind them.

This TWA 707 had its cockpit section destroyed by a terrorist bomb/grenades at Damascus, Syria in August, 1969 after being hijacked on a FCO-ATH flight. It was repaired using a new cockpit section and flew for many more years.
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19690829-1


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User currently offlineKanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3750 posts, RR: 27
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 9132 times:
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replacing the 41 section is possible and probably less expensive than replacing the A/C, especially if as some one noted this is one of their few cargo door units. The mod contractors are booked for several years out (read that here in another thread) for main deck cargo door conversions.

Probably will chop the 41 section and repair the 43, then pick up a replacement 41 from the desert. and reconnect everything.

side comment Boeing used an AeroSpacelines guppy to get the replacement nose to Beruit


User currently offlineStratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 9073 times:

Man that looks like a write off alright....I have a friend who flys with the 767's as a flying mechanic out of LAX to Central America and he is worried about his job after the DHL announcement. This after getting screwed by nwa.. He really likes working for ABX I feel for those people especially in this economy not a good time to hit the street.


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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10806 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8661 times:

This aircraft is 20 years old, it would surprise me if they would repair it.

User currently offlineSFOnative From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8132 times:

Quoting Siren (Thread starter):
Aircraft is parked at Plot 11 (if any SFO spotter knows where that is...)



Quoting Leamside (Reply 8):
Photos of the burned DHL #799 can be viewed at http://www.pbase.com/ksfo/burned_dhl...7_sfo

Based on where the DHL planes are usually parked, this area runs directly parallel to the 101 freeway. If you look on google maps, it is just north of the Northern wing of the International terminal. There is actually what looks to be a DHL 767 parked in this area in the current satellite image.

This area actually isn't very "remote" unlike some of the articles suggest. There is a lot of cargo and activity in this stretch of the airport. But this was probably put in the article so Joe Public didn't freak out thinking it happened in the middle of all the gates!

And as I am writing this, the evening TV news just reported that the plane caught fire preparing to take off!  Wow! They made it sound like it was at the foot of the runway and suddenly burst into flames!  Angry

[Edited 2008-06-29 18:12:39]

User currently offline113312 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7808 times:

With a fire just aft of the cockpit door, you'ld be evacuating out of the cockpit windows. Not a time to be a hero; just get out. Lucky that this didn't happen at FL390.

User currently offlineCAL764 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7429 times:



Quoting CFMitch56 (Reply 9):
From the picture, it looks more like they smashed the window to look in or spray water/foam.

Ya, looks a lot like that; you can see the perimeter of the emergency exit still present when only the window pane is missing. Lotta force to do that...  twocents 



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25 Boeing767mech : Doesn't really take that much force. The windows are only held in place by clips that are screwed into the window frame. They hold the window in plac
26 Post contains links NA : http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ges-abx-767f-at-san-francisco.html Btw, ABX is retiring 23 DC-9s immiadetely as they lost business with DHL.
27 CAL764 : Hahaha...not too bad. Looks like I learned something today.
28 Post contains links SFOnative : Interesting developments being reported today about a possible threat received prior to the fire. As reported on SFGate.com ... http://www.sfgate.com/
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