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CO Reinstates Several Regional Routes From EWR  
User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8171 times:

Apparently many of the DH8-200s from CLE are being sent to EWR to reinstate several routes that were canceled when COEX went all jet circa 2000.

EWR-
Ithaca 3 daily DH8-200
Harrisburg 4 daily DH8-200
Philadelphia 3 daily DH8-200
Wilkes Barre / Scranton 4 daily DH8-200

Here's hoping Islip, Binghamton, Elmira and especially Atlantic City make a come back as well.

 crossfingers 


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
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User currently offlineNjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8150 times:

I was about to say how bout showing Atlantic City some love.


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User currently offlineTIA From Albania, joined Mar 2006, 524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8103 times:



Quoting STT757 (Thread starter):
Ithaca 3 daily DH8-200

Wow. This is great. Didn't really expect ITH to get any new flights. When do these routes start? I'm flying there in Sept.


User currently offline28thguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8079 times:

Cheap way to hold onto slots with oil at $140/barrel, I presume.

User currently offlineSBON From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8075 times:

Would love to see PHL and ACY  Smile

User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 747 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8033 times:

Quoting STT757 (Thread starter):
EWR-
Ithaca 3 daily DH8-200
Harrisburg 4 daily DH8-200

Having grown up in ITH this is great news. Now living in MDT this is also great news.

It looks like the ITH service starts October 2nd and it is four flights per day according to the CO web site.

[Edited 2008-06-30 17:01:26]

User currently offlineN757ST From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 362 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8016 times:



Quoting SBON (Reply 4):
Would love to see PHL and ACY

Err...they just mentioned phl. My question is where are they going to park in ITH? I often operate the flight in there, and with our 2 RJ's, Colgans Saab, and Mesabas saab there is not much space left.


User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2676 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7997 times:

Very cool news! Who says there can't be positive news in an environment like this?

User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 747 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7985 times:



Quoting N757ST (Reply 6):
My question is where are they going to park in ITH? I often operate the flight in there, and with our 2 RJ's, Colgans Saab, and Mesabas saab there is not much space left.

If I remember correctly the ITH terminal actually has six gates. One of which has a jet bridge. They might have to reconfigure the ramp space to accomodate another Dash.

Just checked www.flyithaca.com and nothing is mentioned.


User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7908 times:

Martha's Vineyard (seasonally) too would be nice.

If we were going way back into the COEX ATR / EM2 archives from EWR we would also include:

Allentown, Bridgeport, New Haven, New London, Worcester.



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User currently offlineFLYjoe From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7892 times:

Too bad ABE didn't get Dash service to replace the COx bus service. I know that flight was one of the first to get cut when the delays started stacking. COx used to run ATR-42s and EMB-120s on this route.

User currently offlineBurj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 901 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7647 times:

What? ITH? I haven't heard anything about that. If anything the rumour around Ithaca/Tompkins County is that ITH was in danger of losing service! I'll have to keep an eye out for any official local announcements!

User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1064 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7597 times:

Are these flights bookable? When will they be announced?

User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7586 times:

Quoting Burj (Reply 11):
What? ITH? I haven't heard anything about that. If anything the rumour around Ithaca/Tompkins County is that ITH was in danger of losing service! I'll have to keep an eye out for any official local announcements!



Quoting COEWRNJ (Reply 12):
Are these flights bookable? When will they be announced?

These flights are bookable, check http://www.continental.com

Check dates starting in October 2nd.

[Edited 2008-06-30 19:30:03]


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User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7554 times:



Quoting STT757 (Thread starter):
EWR-
Ithaca 3 daily DH8-200
Harrisburg 4 daily DH8-200
Philadelphia 3 daily DH8-200
Wilkes Barre / Scranton 4 daily DH8-200

Excellent News!!

This will be the only SkyTeam service from the NYC market to:

Ithaca
Harrisburg
Wilkes Barre/Scranton


User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3413 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7435 times:

PVD-EWR goes up to 4X DH4 (and 1X ER4) in OCT as well. It's nice to see a gain in seats available for a change!

User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7428 times:

Here's the full list of former COEX stations from EWR during the ATR / EM2 era that are not reinstated (yet).


Allentown, Bridgeport, New Haven, New London, Worcester, Islip, Atlantic City, Presque Isle, Martha's Vineyard.

I've got my fingers crossed for Atlantic City, Islip, Martha's Vineyard and maybe New Haven.

The rest are not realistic at this point IMO.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7372 times:

I'm in the mood for a nostalgic look back at the ATR/ EM2 days of COEX at EWR.


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[Edited 2008-06-30 20:36:38]


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User currently offlineCuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 693 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7318 times:



Quoting 28thguy (Reply 3):
Cheap way to hold onto slots with oil at $140/barrel, I presume.

... clearly! Well turboprops get some use, most of the time it probably will be quicker to drive as those planes will be queueing 2 hours to take off from Newark. I'd love a EWR-LGA and a EWR-JFK routes... It will sell for $50, half of US Helicopter!


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21625 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7300 times:



Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 14):
This will be the only SkyTeam service from the NYC market to:

Ithaca
Harrisburg
Wilkes Barre/Scranton

Not for too long...soon it'll be Star Alliance service.

-Mir



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User currently offlineTristanHNL From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2006, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7193 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 19):
Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 14):
This will be the only SkyTeam service from the NYC market to:

Ithaca
Harrisburg
Wilkes Barre/Scranton

Not for too long...soon it'll be Star Alliance service.

-Mir

True...but CO will have to wait for a duration of time after the NW/DL deal goes through. I don't see CO in *A until at least 3rd quarter 2009, although I wish it could be much sooner!



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User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5576 posts, RR: 28
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7031 times:



Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 14):
This will be the only SkyTeam service from the NYC market to:

Ithaca
Harrisburg
Wilkes Barre/Scranton

You are a trouble maker, aren't you?  Smile

Quoting Mir (Reply 19):
Not for too long...soon it'll be Star Alliance service

I'm thinking that may have been his subliminal point.

-Dave



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5433 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6855 times:

In October EWR will get DH2 flights to AVP, PHL, MDT, IAD, BDL, ITH, and SYR. CO is apparently moving DH2's from CLE to EWR and ERJ's from EWR to CLE.


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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6844 times:

Kind of a smart move; since (correct me if I'm wrong) DH8s can use the shorter runway in/out of EWR, while at CLE runway congestion isn't an issue?

-A



What now?
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6815 times:



Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 7):
Who says there can't be positive news in an environment like this?

You're not in CLE right now.  Sad

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 22):
CO is apparently moving DH2's from CLE to EWR and ERJ's from EWR to CLE.

What's gonna happen to the DH2 flying out of CLE? We still have a lot of CO Connection cities served out of here: SBN, FWA, ERI, FNT, HPN, PIT?


25 PanAm330 : No, I'm in MCO where the cuts hurt a little more.
26 Lambert747 : I have to give credit where credit is deserved.. Indeed, and a good many people are looking for that day to come much sooner than later..
27 RL757PVD : PVD was the primary recipient of the -72 having 7x at the peak (with 1x mainline)
28 MasseyBrown : EWR will have 25 DH2 departures in October. These planes will be transfered from CLE routes and will be mostly replaced on the CLE routes by ERJ's. D
29 Lrgt : Does adding back PHL mean they'll do away with the Amtrak code share? Amtrak was much more convenient... a 55 minute train ride to downtown Philadelp
30 STT757 : It is, 82 per hour.
31 St530 : This is very interesting news. Back in 2000, when the ITH cut was first announced, I wrote a rather pointed email to Continental, and got a response f
32 PanAm330 : At least in the case of SYR, it appears that the Q200 replaces 2 of our 3 ERJ flights, and our lone Q400 stays, but a fifth flight (Q200) is added in
33 BatonOps : CO was one in ITH when the new terminal opened many years ago. Good to see them come back.
34 CALMSP : we wont be dumping our codeshare with 2V.
35 BatonOps : Still no official announcement here at MDT. I even looked online for ITH and found nothing.
36 Post contains links STT757 : Go to http://www.continental.com and check the schedules. They are loaded, and bookable.
37 FWAERJ : Could this mean EWR-FWA service from CO soon? One can only hope...
38 Post contains links BatonOps : I saw the schedules where loaded last night. I meant that there has been no official word in the local newspapers or online. www.flyithaca.com and ww
39 Teneriffe77 : As i've said in the ITH thread, you'll probably see them using the ground level gates at the far end middle concourse of Terminal C because those gate
40 Nkops : Maybe the 3rd time would be a charm!!! Seriously, I would love to see ANYBODY come to ACY... gotta fill that new 6 story parking garage somehow!!
41 Buddys747 : At least something positive after the AE announcement let down. I hope they market this well, we saw what happened to the LGA service only a few mont
42 PSU.DTW.SCE : No announcement in the media yet because CO hasn't even officially announced this yet. One would expect CO to issue a press release this week, probab
43 Teneriffe77 : Speaking of Dash-8's I noticed that according to US Airways fall schedules that the SYR-LGA, PVD-LGA, and ALB-LGA routes are moving from Colgan Saab 3
44 Falcon84 : Where is this increase in RJ flying taking place out of CLE? Any idea which routes?
45 Post contains images MasseyBrown : Only for you, Falcon.   Listing of CLE destinations that include DH2 service in September Three columns: city, September, and October Abbreviations:
46 PSU.DTW.SCE : Apparently, Colgan is reducing a significant amount of their LGA flying this fall. Airways is cutting down in some of LGA flying, where cut Piedmont
47 MasseyBrown : Yes, there are numerous other changes in the September schedule; I was only trying to show RJ's replacing EWR-bound DH2's in the October schedule.
48 Post contains links STT757 : The news is out; http://news10now.com/content/top_sto...ines-coming-to-ithaca/Default.aspx http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps...cle?AID=/20080702/N
49 EMB170 : Yes! Thankfully I'll still be able to take the train from 30th St up to EWR....honestly another poster had it right...I don't know who in their right
50 KcrwFlyer : I dont think theyre going to start EWR-FWA on a dash. I also think there are a few cities ahead of FWA on CO's priority list from EWR.
51 SBON : Is the codeshare with the Acela Express? (I wouldn't think so, but you never know?)
52 Usairways85 : Yes it is. however for you to earn OnePass miles you have to travel between Newark and either Boston or Washington
53 BatonOps : On top of the new service to ITH the article also mentions that NW is upgrading its morning departure to DTW to a CRJ. The article shows a picture of
54 Burj : I read in another article that said it would be a CRJ-900 and it would have first class seats (which precludes the smaller CRJ, right?) Knowing the t
55 KcrwFlyer : That cant be right. theres no way NW is going to send a CR9 to ITH.
56 Burj : Alas you are right, after I posted I thought about it and couldn't envision getting that many people, unless maybe they think with a CR9 at ITH they
57 Silentbob : I've heard some Piedmont crew are hoping SYR gets re-opened as a base. I think that would make it the third or fourth time.
58 PSU.DTW.SCE : The article is incorrect that said it was a CR9. You can clearly see on nwa.com that it is a CRJ-200. The evening inbound from DTW / morning departur
59 KcrwFlyer : Is NW getting more RJ's, or what? I've seen some unexpected saab upgrades in the past few months. Are they removing any saabs from the fleet, or just
60 Buddys747 : I think with the additional CR9's coming online your seeing them replacing CRJ's, which frees them up for some Saab routes. Right now MDT has all CR9
61 PanAm330 : That would be nice. Most carriers, US especially, have slashed the sh*t out of service there, so any increased traffic would be great to see in the '
62 EMB170 : My experience from buying tickets has been that the codeshare is with NE Corridor Regional as well...those trains you just type in ZFV as your depart
63 Teneriffe77 : Speaking of Piedmont, how many planes do they have now?
64 Post contains links BatonOps : Finally official at MDT... http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...ontinental_to_add_hianewark_f.html Funny how they show a 757 instead of a Dash 8.
65 PSU.DTW.SCE : Three reasons: 1) Delivery of more CR9's & E-175's has upgauged some 50 seat CRJ routes, and in others replaced DC-9/A319 flying, thus freeing up som
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