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Bwia Never Crashed?  
User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2888 posts, RR: 10
Posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3174 times:
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is it true BWIA never crashed in its entire history?


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User currently offlineCaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3155 times:

Never had a crash, fatality nor injury in its 66 year history. Despite all of its financial trouble, the airline kept up its safety record for many years, which is better than most small and large airlines in aviation.


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User currently offlineHawaiianA330 From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3144 times:

You can add HA to the list as well, never a fatal incident/crash since starting service in 1929. Best record of the US carriers I believe.

User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3096 times:

I believe that to be true. Though there were several incidents that required emergency landings (some Tristars with single engine failures over the pond and I believe one MD-83 that had to make an emergency landing due to pressurization problems). I don't believe any of these incidents lead to fatalities.


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User currently offlineCaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3081 times:



Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 3):

Yeah the tristars were coming to the end of their useful life when of these accidents were happening but never and injury nor fatality.



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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3067 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3076 times:
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Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 3):
I don't believe any of these incidents lead to fatalities

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Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 3):
I believe one MD-83 that had to make an emergency landing due to pressurization problems).

The incident occured on approach to KIN...The aircraft had a windshield crack.. Both inner and outer panes were affected...Cockpit air pressure fell...Plane landed safely, with no fatalities...



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User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3074 times:

BW never had a fatal accident but it did have a few incidents early in its history. In 1943 a Lockheed Lodestar skidded off the runway at SLU while landing and was severely damaged; however the 9 people on board escaped. Around the same time its other Lodestar was destroyed in a refuelling accident at POS.

Indeed it has had several TriStar emergency landings in the Azores which unfortunately became somewhat more common in the late '90s and early 2000s as the planes aged. An MD83 did have a pressurization-related explosion after leaving MIA sometime in the 1990s ('93 I think) and another ran off the runway there on landing in 2002. Much further back, one of its 727 Sunjets had been hijacked to Cuba.

Above all though BW never had a passenger or crew fatality over its 66 year existence - an exemplary record.

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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8808 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3058 times:
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Quoting HummingBird (Reply 5):
The incident occured on approach to KIN...The aircraft had a windshield crack.. Both inner and outer panes were affected...Cockpit air pressure fell...Plane landed safely, with no fatalities...

Actually it was BWIA # 431 (MD-83) from MIA to BGI; on takeoff the water heater in the forward galley exploded causing injury to one cabin crew. Thus an emergency landing at MIA was initiated.


User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3067 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3047 times:
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Quoting SCL767 (Reply 7):

This incident occurred in 1993....

The KIN incident was in August, 2002...

They also had a hard landing and overrun in MIA in 2002......



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8808 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3036 times:
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Quoting HummingBird (Reply 8):

They also had an MD-83 overrun in GEO in the 80's too.


User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3067 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3024 times:
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Quoting SCL767 (Reply 9):

Caribbean pilots are highly rated across the globe.....Our determination and discipline has always been our strongest characteristics.......I heard the pass rate for experienced Caribbean pilots who apply for jobs with EK is 100%...Job well done...



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8808 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3016 times:
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Quoting HummingBird (Reply 10):
I heard the pass rate for experienced Caribbean pilots who apply for jobs with EK is 100%...Job well done...

Agreed, I also know one at Ethiad and one at Korean Air. There's even a Trinidadian AA MIA based 777 Captain that I know very well.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26957 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2921 times:



Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 3):
Though there were several incidents that required emergency landings (some Tristars with single engine failures over the pond

Yes I was on one of them!! 24 hours delayed . That was part of the BWIA experience.


User currently offlineLIA310 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Mar 2008, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

I believe the only death "associated" with BWIA, was when a person was sucked into an L1011 engine at Piarco a few years back.

User currently offlineCaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2692 times:



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 8):

The BWIA MIA runway run off resulted in the First officer in control of the a/c and not being experienced. The captain was then fired from the airline for this action while the FO continues to fly. I cannot say if the captain is flying now but it was sad to see that he was terminated because he was the Pilot in Command.



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2660 times:



Quoting LIA310 (Reply 13):
I believe the only death "associated" with BWIA, was when a person was sucked into an L1011 engine at Piarco a few years back.

To my knowledge no one has ever been ingested by an L-1011 engine.

There was an incident in Piarco about 15 years ago where a person jumped into a BA 747 engine during taxi out. He wanted to keep is gay lover from returning to the UK.


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8808 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2620 times:
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Quoting 474218 (Reply 15):
To my knowledge no one has ever been ingested by an L-1011 engine.

Correct, it occurred with a BA 747.


User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days ago) and read 2490 times:



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 10):
Caribbean pilots are highly rated across the globe.....Our determination and discipline has always been our strongest characteristics.......I heard the pass rate for experienced Caribbean pilots who apply for jobs with EK is 100%...Job well done...



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 11):
Agreed, I also know one at Ethiad and one at Korean Air. There's even a Trinidadian AA MIA based 777 Captain that I know very well.

I never realized how far away some caribbean pilots are working nowadays.



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User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days ago) and read 2478 times:

The ingestion incident (FOD damage in tech speak) occurred to a BA 747 in POS. I cannot remember the exact year but it was earlier than 1993 - I think it was in 1988 or 1989.

TrinToCan.



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User currently offlineBW985 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Nov 2007, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days ago) and read 2459 times:



Quoting Trintocan (Reply 6):
Much further back, one of its 727 Sunjets had been hijacked to Cuba.

Have not heard about this hijacking before. Have you got anymore info on this incident?


User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2383 times:

There was an incident at LHR when a Biwi L.1011 was queuing up for take-off. Somehow one of the nosewheels came free and rolled away, causing quite a commotion (it was spotted by a nearby BD pilot). I seem to remember it might have 'bumped' into the fuselage of a smaller aircraft nearby, causing that one to be held up whilst inspected for damage, but this was in the late 90's, and I really can't remember the details. I was listening to tower ATC at the time, and it was quite amusing, though probably not for the stranded Biwi passengers!

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User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2320 times:

... finally found an article on the Internet about the incident I mentioned above (though there is nothing on the AAIB website as far as I can tell)...:

BWIA Incident at LHR, 25-11-1998

Riv'



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