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EK Suspends Alexandria  
User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1729 posts, RR: 6
Posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4565 times:

...due to high oil prices!

Quote:
Emirates is cancelling its service to Alexandria, Egypt from 10th September 2008 due to high oil prices, according to a spokesperson. The airline will continue to serve Egypt with 10 flights a week to Cairo using its large capacity Boeing 777 aircraft.

That is the first route cut of EK in recent years!

Source: http://www.ameinfo.com/162104.html

[Edited 2008-07-01 02:24:18]


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31 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineKissK From Malaysia, joined Aug 2007, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4403 times:

No point of keeping a route... if its not profitable

User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4364 times:

Well maintaining an all widebody fleet costs a lot especially on empty short haul flights.  Smile

User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4364 times:



Quoting QatarA340 (Thread starter):
That is the first route cut of EK in recent years!

Well, not exactly a "cut," but EK did announce recently that it would not, after all, launch flights to Durban.



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineHaan From South Africa, joined Aug 2004, 289 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4188 times:

We going to see more of this unprofitable routes being cut shortly.
My bet would be the second daily to Beijing be gone after the Olympics
and Newcastle be reduced to about 3 or 4 times a week.


User currently offlineHaan From South Africa, joined Aug 2004, 289 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4166 times:



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 2):
Well maintaining an all widebody fleet costs a lot especially on empty short haul flights



Thats true and I agree, would make sense to acquire some smaller fleet for these sectors.
But Emirates are carrying about 10T and more of cargo on these sectors and u cant fit that into a A320 or B738.


User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3240 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4084 times:
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Alexandria is a summer vacation city.I think it will be on again around May 09.


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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3763 times:



Quoting QatarA340 (Thread starter):
...due to high oil prices!

..but I thought EK gets cheap fuel?



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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2226 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3562 times:



Quoting Haan (Reply 4):
We going to see more of this unprofitable routes being cut shortly.

Which ones? VIE? NCL? ADD?



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24811 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3520 times:



Quoting JoKeR (Reply 8):
Which ones? VIE? NCL? ADD?

Dunno about VIE and ADD, but, apart from May, the loads on the NCL flights have been steadily increasing. I think it's averaging around 220 pax or so per flight now (correct me if wrong). So whilst the oil price could contribute some way, I don't think it will be dropped.



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User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5884 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3443 times:

They might drop the low LF IAH  Big grin ...at 94-99% ..it just aint cutting it!


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User currently offlineCupraIbiza From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 836 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2970 times:

I wanted to go from Dubai to Cairo last year. My idiot travel agent told me of a "cheaper option" Where I would fly into Cairo via Alexandria. Sounded good to me. Then she told me "Oh its actually a bus that goes from Alexandria Airport to Cairo Airport"

the flight from Dubai to Alexandria was sensational. Got to fly the old A310 just before it was retired. I can see why the flight has been pulled. there was maybe 25-40 people on board at a guess.

Landing at Alexandria was like quite surreal. no other planes. No airport equipment. nothing just one building. As I landed I realised my phone was flat too.

Anyway jumped on board the bus and asked after 30 minutes "How long before we arrive at Cairo Airport" The bus driver looked at me very puzzled and retorted. "This bus dont go to airport" Another passenger overhead and chimed in "this bus goes to downtown Cairo"

I was meeting my wife at Cairo Airport as she was coming in on another flight. I had such an amazing adventure getting from downtown Cairo to the airport. I had no phone, no idea where anything was, and had to rely on those brilliant black and white Fiat taxis to get me back to the airport.

it was harrowing at the time but now looking back I thank Emirates for flying me via Alexandria and I thank the silly travel agent who told me and gave me an intinery that stated:

Alexandria Airport - Cairo International Airport.



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User currently offlineThegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2756 times:



Quoting Ssides (Reply 3):
Well, not exactly a "cut," but EK did announce recently that it would not, after all, launch flights to Durban.

If you mean Durban, South Africa forget it that would never have worked ever



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User currently offlineDABTH747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2655 times:



Quoting ThegreatRDU (Reply 12):

Why


User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2644 times:

I always thought Swiss or Alitalia should serve Alexandria. Seems like a good fit.


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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3860 posts, RR: 23
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2633 times:



Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 10):
They might drop the low LF IAH Big grin ...at 94-99% ..it just aint cutting it!

Yep, IAH is history  wink   laughing  Oh well, QR will save the day or perhaps EY might give ol' H-Town a looksee, I read at IAH Spotters that they are looking to opening a few new US markets.

Thomas



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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12414 posts, RR: 100
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2529 times:
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Quoting QatarA340 (Thread starter):
That is the first route cut of EK in recent years!

Excluding Vietnam, what else has EK cut?

Next you'll know, they'll be differing A380 orders!  duck 

Seriously, this market is brutal. I hope that oil prices break. Somehow... (I see prices oscillating, peaking at $150/bbl, then going down. But not down too much and not for months.)

Lightsaber



I've posted how many times?!?
User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2485 times:

EK has cut Dubai-Baku, Dubai-Bandar Abbas and Abu Dhabi-Beirut/Amman if my memory serves me correct!


Proud to be an Assyrian!
User currently offlineFly2CHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2196 times:

EK also cut MEL-CHC
...


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4599 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2168 times:



Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 7):
..but I thought EK gets cheap fuel?

They pay the same as everyone else.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlinePa747sp From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2129 times:

Alexandria was introduced because the Egyptian government would only allow increased frequencies into Cairo if EK also served Alexandria. The service has always been unprofitable for them, and it is no surprise that it has been cut.
Cairo however is very profitable, with one of the highest margins in the EK network.



Nothing seems as good since the VC10.
User currently offlineSaa From South Africa, joined Oct 2000, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

Emirates has also eliminated the stop over in the Comoros on the way to JNB.

So Durban joins Copenhagen in the axed before launch list.


User currently offlineAirlittoral From France, joined Sep 2006, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1790 times:



Quoting Pa747sp (Reply 20):
with one of the highest margins in the EK network.

How come? Very high load factor?


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1755 times:



Quoting Airlittoral (Reply 22):
How come? Very high load factor?

High load factors, lots of cross-border business with Egypt (Cairo is a large business center for the Western Middle East, while Dubai is the hub for the Eastern Middle East), and really not all that many available seats between the two markets (the only other nonstop carrier is Egyptair, IIRC).



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlinePa747sp From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1496 times:



Quoting Saa (Reply 21):
So Durban joins Copenhagen in the axed before launch list.

And Geneva



Nothing seems as good since the VC10.
25 GoMEA : BEY has not been cut, on the contrary has been increased. From 2xdaily 332 to a mix of 1x343 and 1x772/773
26 JoKeR : It has via AUH, read the original post.
27 Ojas : EK also did serve DXB - AUH as EK 932/924 IIRC. :-P
28 Sketty222 : Are you sure? I think your right Gkirk. Also I believe the NCL route could make a profit with zero passengers as it makes a lot of money on its cargo
29 Ramzi : EK never served Beirut via AUH. No flight reductions have been made by EK concerning BEY, like someone said they only upgraded the equipment on their
30 Jacobin777 : LoL..I know..I was being a bit sarcastic..
31 UAEflyer : LOL i agree with you Jacobin777 EK also cut AUH-LHR i believe
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