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User currently offlineASFlyer81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 48 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 3480 times:

I was reading that Alaska airlines will be putting winglets on all of their 737's , does this include the 400's? I didnt know that the 400's can have them? its going to be diffrent to see all their fleet with winglets. anyone have any pics of the winglet'd 400

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User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 3416 times:

Not sure about the -400, but WN is retrofitting all of their fleet with them, including the 737 classics. I saw one myself at DAL and I was like, WTF? But apparently Aviation Partners Boeing has a deal going on here for classic 737's.

UAL


User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6447 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 3386 times:



Quoting UAL747 (Reply 1):
Not sure about the -400, but WN is retrofitting all of their fleet with them, including the 737 classics. I saw one myself at DAL and I was like, WTF? But apparently Aviation Partners Boeing has a deal going on here for classic 737's.

The APB blended winglets are not currently certified for the 737-400. Also, I don't think WN is installing winglets on their 737-500s, only the 737-300s and 737-700s. CO is installing winglets on their 737-500s, though.



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User currently offlineUSAir330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

I may be mistaken but I believe all the -300's will be retrofitted and the 500's are to follow. The -500's are being put to alot of use in the Northeast so only time will tell.

User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6447 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 3304 times:



Quoting USAir330 (Reply 3):

I may be mistaken but I believe all the -300's will be retrofitted and the 500's are to follow. The -500's are being put to alot of use in the Northeast so only time will tell.

According to Wikipedia, only 90 WN 733s will be retrofitted with winglets. There is no mention of the 735s being retrofitted.



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User currently offlineFlyingClrs727 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 3247 times:

CO is putting winglets on the 737-500's they intend to keep.

User currently offlineASAFA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 168 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 3247 times:

The question I believe was about AS and the 737-400, not WN or the -300 or -500 series, which has been discussed numerous times.

Alaska issued a press release on June 30th about their fuel saving measures and winglets were discussed. It included the following statement:

Earlier this month, Alaska Airlines also completed retrofitting all its existing 737s capable of using blended winglets. All new aircraft are delivered with blended winglets.
Winglets improve an aircraft’s fuel efficiency and reduce greenhouse gas emissions by about 3 percent — or some 100,000 gallons a year per aircraft. The winglets are manufactured by Seattle-based Aviation Partners Boeing. By the end of this year, Alaska Airlines will be flying 74 Next-Generation 737s with winglets, representing 64 percent of its 116-aircraft fleet.


To me that means no, the 400's will not be getting winglets at this time. I don't know if that proves that the 400 is not capable of carrying winglets at all, however it is the heaviest of the 737 classics. I know a few of the early build 900's are not capable of carrying winglets either. To date I don't know of any -400 series that have been retrofitted.

[Edited 2008-07-02 22:07:17]


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User currently offlineASFlyer81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

here is what i read everyone



The airline has purchased or leased 33 mobile air units for the five hub airports. Even with the initial cost of $65,000 per unit, the machines pay for themselves in about 1½ years, Fuson said. If the project is successful, more units will be purchased for other airports. Starting in September, some fixed units will be installed at all the hubs. The fixed units are powered by electricity from the airports and do not burn fuel or produce emissions.

Earlier this month, Alaska Airlines also completed retrofitting all its existing 737s capable of using blended winglets. All new aircraft are delivered with blended winglets.

Winglets improve an aircraft's fuel efficiency and reduce greenhouse gas emissions by about 3 percent — or some 100,000 gallons a year per aircraft. The winglets are manufactured by Seattle-based Aviation Partners Boeing. By the end of this year, Alaska Airlines will be flying 74 Next-Generation 737s with winglets, representing 64 percent of its 116-aircraft fleet.

"The gold standard in winglets, our technology has saved the industry and the world community more than 1 billion gallons of fuel to date with projected additional fuel savings of more than 175 million gallons in 2008," said Joe Clark, Aviation Partners Boeing founder and chairman. "No other airplane modification will provide the fuel savings and eco-friendly benefits of our blended winglet technology."

Alaska Airlines has undertaken several other fuel-saving initiatives in the past year. Among them:

·Speeding up retirement of its MD-80s to fly only fuel-efficient 737s. The airline's remaining seven MD-80s will be taken out of service Aug. 25 instead of the end of December, as originally planned.

·Using only one engine when taxiing jets for maintenance to conserve fuel.


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 15 hours ago) and read 3037 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 4):
According to Wikipedia, only 90 WN 733s will be retrofitted with winglets. There is no mention of the 735s being retrofitted.

Correct....


User currently offlineChrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2072 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 2949 times:

Call me crazy, but I swear I saw an AS 737-700 last week in SFO without winglets. I thought all their 737-700s had them. I was on the train from the rental car place, so it was a good distance away. Am I hallucinating or was that really a -700?

User currently offlineBoeing12345 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 2884 times:



Quoting FlyingClrs727 (Reply 5):
CO is putting winglets on the 737-500's they intend to keep.

Actually they all are getting them. Management figured they looked more attractive to a potential buyer if the winglets were already installed.


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7058 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 2843 times:

I don't think that AS will retrofit their 734s with winglets. I believe to have read that they will phase them out soon except for the combi versions which replaced the 737-200 "mudhens".


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User currently offlineBayAreaBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 2742 times:



Quoting Chrisair (Reply 9):
Call me crazy, but I swear I saw an AS 737-700 last week in SFO without winglets. I thought all their 737-700s had them. I was on the train from the rental car place, so it was a good distance away. Am I hallucinating or was that really a -700?

One 737-700, A/C N647AS, does not have the winglets installed. To my knowledge, no plans are in the works for winglets on the -400.


User currently offlineSCXmechanic From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 534 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 2485 times:

The info is pretty simple to find.... Straight from Aviation Partners Boeing's website.

"APB has certified Blended Winglets for the 757-200, 737-300, 737-500, 737-900, and is in the process of certifying winglets for the 767-300ER."

http://www.aviationpartnersboeing.com/products/index.html

So the -400 isn't even certified to date for winglets.


User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1870 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 3 hours ago) and read 2403 times:

Winglets on B737Classic's

B737-300
Air Baltic (3)
Brussels Airlines (4)
Continental Airlines (10)
Hamburg International (1)
Norwegian (1)
Southwest Airlines (32)
Thomsonfly (1)
Ukraine Intl Airlines (2)

B737-500
Continental Airlines (3)
Ukraine Intl Airlines (1)


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