Teneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 423 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 23020 times:
Reminds me of the Air Transat incident near Lyon a few years ago. BTW what's the status of that plane now?
FrmrCAPCADET From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1501 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 22940 times:
One of the fun things I have learned on this site is how much damage/abuse a plane can take, and still fly/land safely. Friends have enjoyed seeing the u-tube videos of the LH 320, test cross wind landings, and even the jpegs of BA B777 crash(kind of) landing at LHR. I really think that the spectacular thing we have now with widespread vidio equipment is not coverage of bad crashes, but the sort of stuff modern airframes can take, and still survive, or at least the people in them.
[Edited 2008-07-03 12:20:34]
Buffet: the airline business...has eaten up capital...like..no other (business)
Chgoflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 622 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 21900 times:
So does this mean my AIG stock will take another hit?
Glad nothing happend to passengers or crew?
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 21771 times:
Quoting Chgoflyer (Reply 8): So does this mean my AIG stock will take another hit?
It's already down >62%, what's another cent or two lower (if that)?
Glideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1542 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 20070 times:
Darn tough bird that 777. Glad all are well.
"All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved"
777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2402 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 15147 times:
Quoting FrmrCAPCADET (Reply 6): One of the fun things I have learned on this site is how much damage/abuse a plane can take, and still fly/land safely.
Yeah, but in this case, the phrase, "request right turn, 10 degrees for weather" should've come into play, IMO!
87GROUNDED From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 121 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 14208 times:
Looks like a definate write-off to me.
On your deathbed you'll receive total consiousness- so I've got that going for me.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 14146 times:
Maxisno1 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2007, 212 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 13238 times:
Wow that must have been some serious hail. I wonder if the weather radar was still working with all that nose damage...The image must have been a bit fuzzy.
Missourifarmer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 42 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 13119 times:
Quoting 777way (Thread starter): Flight was operating Paris-Milan-Lahore when it encountered the storm
So this damage occurred in flight? What flight level did they encounter the hail? I am thinking they must have encountered the hail at a relatively low altitude because I dont think it can hail at cruising altitude (or I could be wrong)!!
NicoEDDF From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 1051 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 12774 times:
Quoting Maxisno1 (Reply 15): I wonder if the weather radar was still working with all that nose damage
Its only the paint being "hailstripped", the nose itself looks structural quite intact.
Quoting Missourifarmer (Reply 16): I am thinking they must have encountered the hail at a relatively low altitude because I dont think it can hail at cruising altitude
Yep, I agree. Cruise is above weather influence. Thats where I think 777fan is absolutely right. Route diversion or take-off/landing delay would have been the appropriate way to NOT encounter such hail.
Tb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1375 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 12347 times:
Quoting Maxisno1 (Reply 15): Wow that must have been some serious hail. I wonder if the weather radar was still working with all that nose damage...The image must have been a bit fuzzy.
Weather radar does not pick up hail, only precipitation.
Quoting Missourifarmer (Reply 16): So this damage occurred in flight? What flight level did they encounter the hail? I am thinking they must have encountered the hail at a relatively low altitude because I dont think it can hail at cruising altitude (or I could be wrong)!!
Hail can be found very high up, that is how hail is made. Rain is blown up into the top of a thunderstorm, freezes, falls, collects more rain, then gets blown back up getting bigger each time it is blown back up until the updraft can't hold the weight of the hail stone or gets in a downdraft. In big storms hail can be tossed out the "anvil" of a 50,000' thunderstorm upwards of 50 miles ahead of the storm.
I have a pic somewhere of an NW 744 that came out of DTW back in about '96 in the hanger after it went through a really bad storm, it looked way worse than this 777! I was promptly kicked out of the hanger after taking the picture! I really need to scan that.
BlackProjects From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 756 posts, RR: 4 Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 12020 times:
Thats just a little bit of Hail damage.
A while back a TAM a 320 flew through a tropical storm and had a Dose of heavy Hail it lost its radome had its main flight deck windows Crazed and its leading edges of the wings looked like a nut with a hammer had attacked it.
MedAv From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 78 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 10899 times:
Quoting FrmrCAPCADET (Reply 6): One of the fun things I have learned on this site is how much damage/abuse a plane can take, and still fly/land safely.
All the proof you need is in one of those static tests like this one.
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