FrmrCAPCADET From United States, joined May 2008, 174 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (1 month 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 14892 times:
One of the fun things I have learned on this site is how much damage/abuse a plane can take, and still fly/land safely. Friends have enjoyed seeing the u-tube videos of the LH 320, test cross wind landings, and even the jpegs of BA B777 crash(kind of) landing at LHR. I really think that the spectacular thing we have now with widespread vidio equipment is not coverage of bad crashes, but the sort of stuff modern airframes can take, and still survive, or at least the people in them.
[Edited 2008-07-03 12:20:34]
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777fan From United States, joined Jan 2006, 1681 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7099 times:
Quoting FrmrCAPCADET (Reply 6): One of the fun things I have learned on this site is how much damage/abuse a plane can take, and still fly/land safely.
Yeah, but in this case, the phrase, "request right turn, 10 degrees for weather" should've come into play, IMO!
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Maxisno1 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2007, 125 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5190 times:
Wow that must have been some serious hail. I wonder if the weather radar was still working with all that nose damage...The image must have been a bit fuzzy.
Missourifarmer From United States, joined Nov 2007, 41 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5071 times:
Quoting 777way (Thread starter): Flight was operating Paris-Milan-Lahore when it encountered the storm
So this damage occurred in flight? What flight level did they encounter the hail? I am thinking they must have encountered the hail at a relatively low altitude because I dont think it can hail at cruising altitude (or I could be wrong)!!
NicoEDDF From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 363 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4726 times:
Quoting Maxisno1 (Reply 15): I wonder if the weather radar was still working with all that nose damage
Its only the paint being "hailstripped", the nose itself looks structural quite intact.
Quoting Missourifarmer (Reply 16): I am thinking they must have encountered the hail at a relatively low altitude because I dont think it can hail at cruising altitude
Yep, I agree. Cruise is above weather influence. Thats where I think 777fan is absolutely right. Route diversion or take-off/landing delay would have been the appropriate way to NOT encounter such hail.
Tb727 From United States, joined Jun 2005, 414 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4299 times:
Quoting Maxisno1 (Reply 15): Wow that must have been some serious hail. I wonder if the weather radar was still working with all that nose damage...The image must have been a bit fuzzy.
Weather radar does not pick up hail, only precipitation.
Quoting Missourifarmer (Reply 16): So this damage occurred in flight? What flight level did they encounter the hail? I am thinking they must have encountered the hail at a relatively low altitude because I dont think it can hail at cruising altitude (or I could be wrong)!!
Hail can be found very high up, that is how hail is made. Rain is blown up into the top of a thunderstorm, freezes, falls, collects more rain, then gets blown back up getting bigger each time it is blown back up until the updraft can't hold the weight of the hail stone or gets in a downdraft. In big storms hail can be tossed out the "anvil" of a 50,000' thunderstorm upwards of 50 miles ahead of the storm.
I have a pic somewhere of an NW 744 that came out of DTW back in about '96 in the hanger after it went through a really bad storm, it looked way worse than this 777! I was promptly kicked out of the hanger after taking the picture! I really need to scan that.
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BlackProjects From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 502 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3972 times:
Thats just a little bit of Hail damage.
A while back a TAM a 320 flew through a tropical storm and had a Dose of heavy Hail it lost its radome had its main flight deck windows Crazed and its leading edges of the wings looked like a nut with a hammer had attacked it.
MedAv From United States, joined Mar 2008, 47 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 month 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2851 times:
Quoting FrmrCAPCADET (Reply 6): One of the fun things I have learned on this site is how much damage/abuse a plane can take, and still fly/land safely.
All the proof you need is in one of those static tests like this one.
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