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EgyptAir Will Buy 3 A330s + 2 777s  
User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3282 times:

http://www.latribune.fr:80/info/Egyp...-$Db=News/News.nsf-$Channel=Bourse

Egyptair is finalising an order for 3 A330s and 2 777s bringing their fleet to 11 and 8 respectively.

No versions mentionned , but probably A330-200 and 777-300ER.

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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12564 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3252 times:

I'm a bit confused about the totals, particularly for the 777. The airline (as far as I can see) currently operates five 772s; I had thought it had already ordered some 773ERs, earlier this year as well?

Also, the current 332 total is seven, which brings the total of this fleet (with the new orders) to 10.


User currently offlineDiscoverCSG From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 833 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3235 times:

Since I'm not familiar with MS's fleet strategy, why the split order between Airbus and Boeing for such a modest fleet of widebodies?

User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6958 posts, RR: 63
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3201 times:

What about the firm order for 5 x A332 placed on 31st July last year? That took Egyptair to 12. Surely these three must be in addition to that - making 15?

User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6958 posts, RR: 63
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3170 times:



Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 2):
Since I'm not familiar with MS's fleet strategy, why the split order between Airbus and Boeing for such a modest fleet of widebodies?

If it is a mix of A332s and 773ERs then they are quite different planes.


User currently offlineNicoEDDF From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 1106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3142 times:



Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 2):
Since I'm not familiar with MS's fleet strategy, why the split order between Airbus and Boeing for such a modest fleet of widebodies?

Because they need the specific advantages of each aircraft, and not overcapacity and overrange on the one route and undercapacity and underrange on the other?


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12795 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3022 times:
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Quoting Kaitak (Reply 1):
I'm a bit confused about the totals, particularly for the 777. The airline (as far as I can see) currently operates five 772s; I had thought it had already ordered some 773ERs, earlier this year as well?

Also, the current 332 total is seven, which brings the total of this fleet (with the new orders) to 10.

It is very confusing, and the article is clearly wrong.

Today, MS operates 7 A332 and 5 77Es.

However, MS also has another 5 A332 on order, and will be leasing 6 77Ws from GECAS.
http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre..._items/07_08_27_a330_egyptair.html
http://www.gecas.com/news20071211.asp

Interestingly, the Airbus PR also states that MS took 3 options! One assumes this new order would be a firming of those options.

Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 2):
Since I'm not familiar with MS's fleet strategy, why the split order between Airbus and Boeing for such a modest fleet of widebodies?

Both are small top-ups of their existing fleets.

Quoting PM (Reply 4):
If it is a mix of A332s and 773ERs then they are quite different planes.

Even if they're 77Es, it's a very popular and efficient combination.   


MS does have one of the more diverse fleets out there. They operate/have on order (including this announcement):

A320 (12)
A321 (4)
737-500 (4)
737-800 (12)
A330-200 (15)
A340-200 (3)
777-200ER (5)
777-300ER (6)
+ 2 777s of unknown type.


[edit - corrected numbers!]

[Edited 2008-07-03 14:13:48]


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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4461 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2915 times:

How come MS is not placing an order for 787/350?
Those 332s will be 10 years old, when 787/350 start to reign. So it will be too early to replace them, or too late to get a good price for them.


User currently offlineMotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3276 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2540 times:



Quoting TK787 (Reply 7):
Those 332s will be 10 years old, when 787/350 start to reign. So it will be too early to replace them, or too late to get a good price for them.

Well they'll probably start replacing their older ones first and order next gen planes at the right time for their staggered retirees.

Crazy diverse fleet though IMO, them and TK's narrow bodies.

MH



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4461 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2512 times:



Quoting MotorHussy (Reply 8):
Crazy diverse fleet though IMO, them and TK's narrow bodies.

MS and TK crazy diverse, sure...
When it comes to LH should we call it efficient?

TK
319 (2)
320 (16+6)
321 (17)
737 (50+6)

LH
319 (20)
320 (36)
321 (31)
737 (64)


User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 4045 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2499 times:



Quoting TK787 (Reply 9):
When it comes to LH should we call it efficient?

Slight difference in the figures each airline operates though.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31240 posts, RR: 85
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2455 times:
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Quoting TK787 (Reply 9):
When it comes to LH should we call it efficient?

Well those 64 737s are going away, to be replaced by more A320 family members (and some CRJs?).


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4461 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

Would you care for more efficient airlines with their narrow bodies?

Airline.. A..B

CA..43..106
MU..92...61
CZ....107...98
BA...71....33
U2....123...30
AB...43...56
AP....19...26


User currently offlineMotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3276 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2414 times:



Quoting TK787 (Reply 9):
When it comes to LH should we call it efficient?

Call it what you like but the 737 fleet of LH's is older generation 300 and 500 series that are perfect for shorter haul - much like how NZ uses the 733's domestically while A320's on shorter international routes.

The A320 for LH fleet was a later purchase with a distinct role whereas with TK, the A320 and 738 were ordered at the same time and have pretty comparable performance. Yes they do have 734's as well so that's yet another type.

Also, don't forget that the 26 x LX A320 family are also part of that efficient LH purchasing and maintenance consideration.

MH



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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3958 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2400 times:

It's all about politics these airlines ordering A and B at same time. Don't care what anyone says.

R


User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2354 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 11):
Well those 64 737s are going away, to be replaced by more A320 family members (and some CRJs?).

E-Jets.


User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 4045 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2311 times:



Quoting TK787 (Reply 12):
BA...71....33
U2....123...30

Both of these operators are removing the 737 from their fleets as ability dictates - which means their fleets aren't a great example when you take that into consideration.


User currently offlineMotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3276 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1800 times:



Quoting RobK (Reply 14):
It's all about politics these airlines ordering A and B at same time.

On the following, I'd have to agree, especially as it's all selected by CAAC which they were all part of.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 12):
CA..43..106
MU..92...61
CZ....107...98

MH



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