Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11948 posts, RR: 37 Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2622 times:
I'm a bit confused about the totals, particularly for the 777. The airline (as far as I can see) currently operates five 772s; I had thought it had already ordered some 773ERs, earlier this year as well?
Also, the current 332 total is seven, which brings the total of this fleet (with the new orders) to 10.
DiscoverCSG From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 781 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2605 times:
Since I'm not familiar with MS's fleet strategy, why the split order between Airbus and Boeing for such a modest fleet of widebodies?
PM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6715 posts, RR: 66 Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2571 times:
What about the firm order for 5 x A332 placed on 31st July last year? That took Egyptair to 12. Surely these three must be in addition to that - making 15?
PM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6715 posts, RR: 66 Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2540 times:
Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 2): Since I'm not familiar with MS's fleet strategy, why the split order between Airbus and Boeing for such a modest fleet of widebodies?
If it is a mix of A332s and 773ERs then they are quite different planes.
NicoEDDF From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 1051 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2512 times:
Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 2): Since I'm not familiar with MS's fleet strategy, why the split order between Airbus and Boeing for such a modest fleet of widebodies?
Because they need the specific advantages of each aircraft, and not overcapacity and overrange on the one route and undercapacity and underrange on the other?
Scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 11357 posts, RR: 50 Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2392 times:
Quoting Kaitak (Reply 1): I'm a bit confused about the totals, particularly for the 777. The airline (as far as I can see) currently operates five 772s; I had thought it had already ordered some 773ERs, earlier this year as well?
Also, the current 332 total is seven, which brings the total of this fleet (with the new orders) to 10.
It is very confusing, and the article is clearly wrong.
Interestingly, the Airbus PR also states that MS took 3 options! One assumes this new order would be a firming of those options.
Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 2): Since I'm not familiar with MS's fleet strategy, why the split order between Airbus and Boeing for such a modest fleet of widebodies?
Both are small top-ups of their existing fleets.
Quoting PM (Reply 4): If it is a mix of A332s and 773ERs then they are quite different planes.
Even if they're 77Es, it's a very popular and efficient combination.
MS does have one of the more diverse fleets out there. They operate/have on order (including this announcement):
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4102 posts, RR: 13 Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2285 times:
How come MS is not placing an order for 787/350?
Those 332s will be 10 years old, when 787/350 start to reign. So it will be too early to replace them, or too late to get a good price for them.
MotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 2747 posts, RR: 10 Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1910 times:
Quoting TK787 (Reply 7): Those 332s will be 10 years old, when 787/350 start to reign. So it will be too early to replace them, or too late to get a good price for them.
Well they'll probably start replacing their older ones first and order next gen planes at the right time for their staggered retirees.
Crazy diverse fleet though IMO, them and TK's narrow bodies.
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4102 posts, RR: 13 Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1882 times:
Quoting MotorHussy (Reply 8): Crazy diverse fleet though IMO, them and TK's narrow bodies.
MS and TK crazy diverse, sure...
When it comes to LH should we call it efficient?
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26681 posts, RR: 83 Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1825 times:
Quoting TK787 (Reply 9): When it comes to LH should we call it efficient?
Well those 64 737s are going away, to be replaced by more A320 family members (and some CRJs?).
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4102 posts, RR: 13 Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1811 times:
Would you care for more efficient airlines with their narrow bodies?
MotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 2747 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1784 times:
Quoting TK787 (Reply 9): When it comes to LH should we call it efficient?
Call it what you like but the 737 fleet of LH's is older generation 300 and 500 series that are perfect for shorter haul - much like how NZ uses the 733's domestically while A320's on shorter international routes.
The A320 for LH fleet was a later purchase with a distinct role whereas with TK, the A320 and 738 were ordered at the same time and have pretty comparable performance. Yes they do have 734's as well so that's yet another type.
Also, don't forget that the 26 x LX A320 family are also part of that efficient LH purchasing and maintenance consideration.
Both of these operators are removing the 737 from their fleets as ability dictates - which means their fleets aren't a great example when you take that into consideration.
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