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Mysterious 737 At ATL Tech Ops  
User currently offlineBigSaabowski From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 150 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6320 times:

There is a 737 with winglets sitting at the Delta TOC in Atlanta. It is all white and has a US flag on the vertical stabilizer. From the angle that I saw it, it did not appear to have an N-number. Does anyone have any details on this plane?

[Edited 2008-07-04 06:43:30]

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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6266 times:

C-40..... not a mystery at all. The USAF has a few that are all white. Delta does a lot of outside heavy mainteance
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User currently offlineBoeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 952 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6234 times:

Maybe this one...


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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2300 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6171 times:

I wonder if the government selects which MX personnel can work on her or not?


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6141 times:

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 3):

I'm sure they would need to pass a background check and get a security clearance. If you look at the pictures on A.net of the DAL ATL hangar there is always a fence around the planes when they are in there.

[Edited 2008-07-04 07:30:10]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineBigSaabowski From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6042 times:

Yeah, that's it. It had the winglet logos.

User currently offlineVisityyj From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5837 times:

As I mentioned in another thread, these C-40s are in violation of international law.

No civilian registration and no air force insigia (roundels) displayed. But of course the US is no longer subject to international law. "W" said so.


User currently offlineAsqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5771 times:



Quoting Visityyj (Reply 6):
No civilian registration and no air force insigia (roundels) displayed. But of course the US is no longer subject to international law. "W" said so.

It's barely visible in this photo, but you can see the outlined roundel on the wing bottom.


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User currently offlineVisityyj From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5703 times:



Quoting Asqx (Reply 7):
It's barely visible in this photo, but you can see the outlined roundel on the wing bottom.

By Jove, you're right.

I had to blow it up 2x and lighten it but there is one there. I thought it had to be on the fuselage as well but maybe not.

I retract my "W" comment  angel 


User currently offlineRC135X From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4970 times:

Are these Air National Guard airplanes? I see the "Minuteman" on the winglets, which suggests that they might be.

User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4664 times:



Quoting Visityyj (Reply 6):
No civilian registration and no air force insigia (roundels) displayed. But of course the US is no longer subject to international law. "W" said so.

You just couldn't resist a chance to bash the U.S., eh?  Yeah sure

Photo of the C-40B on the TOC ramp:



User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4600 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 3):
I wonder if the government selects which MX personnel can work on her or not?



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 3):
I'm sure they would need to pass a background check and get a security clearance. If you look at the pictures on A.net of the DAL ATL hangar there is always a fence around the planes when they are in there.

Why would you need a security clearance to work on these aircraft?


User currently offlineCrjflyer35 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 668 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4400 times:



Quoting 474218 (Reply 11):
Quoting SXDFC (Reply 3):
I'm sure they would need to pass a background check and get a security clearance. If you look at the pictures on A.net of the DAL ATL hangar there is always a fence around the planes when they are in there.

Why would you need a security clearance to work on these aircraft?

Ohh I don't know, US Military equipment worth lots of money that may or may not have extra stuff on it for military purposes that civilian 737s / BBJ's do not posess. Just a thought.



Ok, wait for the RJ to pass, cleared to push tail south Mike, and you're cleared to spin #2 in the push.
User currently offlineDonniecs From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4123 times:



Quoting Visityyj (Reply 6):

If I recall correctly you have you ever needed and N registration and Air Force logo. I would understand that a military aircraft with a N registration would be a violation. I'd guess that the military tail number and large prominently displayed flag easily meets all current regulations and treaties. If you have any documents stating otherwise I'd be interested to see them. It's no different than the markings on most other foreign military operated aircraft for senior government officials.

The aircraft with the Minutemen on the wing in the DC Air Guard based out of ADW.



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User currently offlineVisityyj From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2330 times:



Quoting Donniecs (Reply 13):
It's no different than the markings on most other foreign military operated aircraft for senior government officials.

I beg to differ, all other countries' "presidential" aircraft either do display a military roundel or carry a civil registration (AFAIK). It's moot anyway since these US planes do apparently have a small roundel under the wing.

What you do within your own airspace is up to you, most New Zealand civil aircraft do not display the ZK- prefix, but I'm pretty sure there are conventions about military markings required in international airspace. Can't find an online reference, I'll see if I can dig one out from my 'library', or I could just be plain wrong.


User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2204 times:



Quoting Visityyj (Reply 14):
I'm pretty sure there are conventions about military markings required in international airspace.

At the time of their retirement the SR-71's carried no markings, save the serial number in red on the rudders. As you can see they used international airspace.


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User currently offlineDALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1973 times:



Quoting Crjflyer35 (Reply 12):
Ohh I don't know, US Military equipment worth lots of money that may or may not have extra stuff on it for military purposes that civilian 737s / BBJ's do not posess. Just a thought

Nothing secret here. They are just for hauling people. Many of the contract jobs have a fence. It has as much to do with parts segregation as to keeping noisy people off the contract planes.


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