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1h25min Int'l To Domestic Enough At DFW?  
User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1236 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3429 times:

I'm booked on AA SJD-DFW-MIA on Aug 20th, arriving DFW at 4h05PM and leaving at 5h30PM. I've connected through DFW before, but that was either domestic to domestic or, when making an int'l connection, I had over 3hours to spare.

I'll be travelling on an E.U. passport and I'll try very hard to have carry on only. Still I'll have to go through immigration and customs. One thing I'm not so sure about is if I'll still be airside after customs or if I'll have to go through security again.

Bottom line: Do you think I'll make it?

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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3418 times:

Bottom line: You'll be cutting it close, but you may just miss the European arrival rush and be OK.

You will have to re-clear security after customs and immigration. It's like this at all US airports, because arriving passengers are put in contact with their checked luggage, so everyone has to go back through. I think this is done pretty easily at the new International Terminal D, though.



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineHypercott From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3414 times:

I assume you'll be arriving at the new international terminal which has pretty efficient immigration. You won't be airside after customs and will have to go through security, though.

I think 1.5 hours is doable. However, If your flight happens to come in with multiple other international flights and the immigration area gets crowded, you may be in trouble.

Based on my many bad experiences with wait times at immigration (and post-immigration security), I never book connections that are tighter than ~2 hours.


User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3361 times:



Quoting Hypercott (Reply 2):
Based on my many bad experiences with wait times at immigration (and post-immigration security), I never book connections that are tighter than ~2 hours.

But I'd assume that most flights are from US heavy pax coming from resorts, so I'd expect them to have light loads for non US passport holders, right?


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3332 times:



Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 3):
But I'd assume that most flights are from US heavy pax coming from resorts, so I'd expect them to have light loads for non US passport holders, right?

That's very true -- as many pax vacationing in Mexico connect via DFW and IAH, both of these airports have large numbers of US passport holders, but not all that many non-US.

Another thing, if you miss your connection, there are plenty of flights from DFW to MIA, so you should have little problem getting on another one.



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3264 times:

At flightstats.com most DFW-MIA show 20' to 30' delay on departure. If this is a pattern it should make things easier for me.

Anyway, there is a 6h50PM flight to MIA. It's just that I'll have someone waiting to pick me up at MIA. I guess the smart thing is to text my friend in Miami once I'm boarding my actual flight, be it the original or a later flight.

[Edited 2008-07-06 07:07:58]

User currently offlineThunder9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

Hey Rafa --

As an AAgent @ DFW, I will tell you that your 1-1/2 hours is going to be barely enough time. Sad

Your arrival of 1605 is just after the rush of widebody arrivals from Euope & Japan, as well as the LatAm arrivals. Once you've cleared FIS, you still must make it back through sceening and on to your connecting flight. One thing that's in your favor (as of now) is that most MIA flights depart from terminal D, which is where you will be. That will save you 10-15 minutes. When you check in for your SJD-DFW leg, ask the SJD agents to see if there are seats to sell on the later DFW-MIA flight in case of problems. There is only one more DFW-MIA flight after the flight that you are currently booked on, but if all esle fails, there is a later DFW-FLL flight that would get you close, rather than waiting overnight.

At DFW, US Immigrations lowered their staffing levels sometime back (12-18 months ago?) and when many international flights arrive @ the same time, there are just way too few immigrations agents, and too many passengers to process. According to my co-workers who are assigned to the FIS area, there are sometimes only 10% of the lanes open, and the wait times can be an hour or more. THEN the date with the Customs Agents and then through security follow. I have had many international passengers arriving at 1430 and could not make it to an 1630-ish departure. Sad

Good luck!

-J



"Keep thy airspeed up, less the earth come from below and smite thee." - William Kershner
User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

J,

Thanks, but I have to say I don't know if I'm relieved or worried now. But I guess, since AA sold me the through ticket it's their responsibilty to make sure I arrive in Miami, right? So, even if on a later flight I should make it to MIA and AA.com shows not one, but two later flights, at 6h50PM and at 7h45PM.

SJO San Jose AA 2166 American Airlines 2:05 PM
FRA Frankfurt LH 0438 Lufthansa 2:20 PM
LHR London AA 0051 American Airlines 2:30 PM
FRA Frankfurt AA 0071 American Airlines 2:30 PM
PTY Panama City AA 2102 American Airlines 2:35 PM
MTY Monterrey MQ 3800 American Eagle 3:10 PM
CDG Paris AA 0049 American Airlines 3:20 PM
MEX Mexico City MX 0844 Mexicana 3:20 PM
BJX Leon/Guanajuato MQ 3732 American Eagle 3:35 PM
LHR London BA 0193 British Airways 3:40 PM
NRT Tokyo AA 0060 American Airlines 3:45 PM
CUN Cancun AA 1654 American Airlines 3:48 PM
SJD San Jose Cabo AA 2438 American Airlines 4:05 PM
CZM Cozumel SY 0644 Sun Country Airlines 4:15 PM
MEX Mexico City AA 1110 American Airlines 4:15 PM
PVR Puerto Vallarta AA 0326 American Airlines 4:15 PM
CZM Cozumel AA 0364 American Airlines 4:50 PM

So, before my flight, London and Tokyo should be heavy on non US passport holders so should Mexico City, which arrives only ten minutes later...

[Edited 2008-07-07 06:14:03]

User currently offlineThunder9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2988 times:



Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 7):
AA.com shows not one, but two later flights, at 6h50PM and at 7h45PM

Hey Rafa -

Sorry for the confusion. I didn't read your OP well, and thought that you were booked on the 1850 departure. With two flights ater your scheduled DFW-MIA leg, you shouldn't have problems getting to South Beach that night.  Smile

Also, the AAgents that work in the FIS area are pretty good about helping rebook passengers for later connections when they have been stuck in slow FIS lines. I wouldn't even bother to ask the SJD agents, now that I think about it. Just ask one of the AA agents at the DFW recheck area to help you if your Immigration/Customs clearance is a slow process. They will usually get you a backup flight right there if you might miss your scheduled flight.

Hope that helps, and have a fun trip in Cabo. Don't let the possibility of a bad DFW FIS experience worry you into having a bad trip!  veryhappy 

-J



"Keep thy airspeed up, less the earth come from below and smite thee." - William Kershner
User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2953 times:

Thanks again.

I´m not really worried, it is just that Miami is going to be the fun part of the trip. I´m going to Cabo for a convention.

My last int to dom connection was not so smooth. I flew GRU-MIA daylight on JJ and, due to a very slow FIS line, I missed my flight to YUL and, since there wasn´t a later flight, I had to overnight in Miami.

On a positive note, the two times I had int to dom connections at DFW immigration lines moved quite fast, but then again, on both occasions I was arriving from GRU, which is (or was at the time) the first int flight of the day, so there were no other pax to clog up FIS.


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