David_mx From Mexico, joined Nov 1999, 209 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 31833 times:
Unfortunately I must tell you that today at 1:15 a.m. local time a USA-jet cargo DC-9 reg N199US crashed at Saltillo Int'l Airport, Mexico. The crew one is reported dead and the other is in critical condition at the hospital. Saltillo is like my hometown, I visit it every week, and I was flying at the exact time from Hermosillo to Monterrey. We passed near saltillo when we were approaching to Monterrey and weather was acceptable, even though I don't have the METAR at that time.
The DC-9 crashed in a adjacent road called "libramiento" which is a loop that surrounds the southbound border of the airport. A friend lives just a mile away from the airport and told me that he heard the loud explosion and sirens but he never though it was a crash.
This road is used by locals and 18-wheelers but since it was Saturday night, the road was clear and no people dead were reported on the ground.
It is amazing because nearby is the highly used Monterrey-Saltillo highway, I just can't imagine what would happen if that road were affected.
I will try to post the images of the Vanguardia news paper, you can access them on the following link
According to the newspaper, the crew never checked in with the Saltillo tower, but causes of course are unknown. Saltillo has a single operational runway, it is sourrounded by mountains and it is equipped with an ILS CAT I or II. It is the base of Saltillo Jet Center, a painting facility owned in part by ExpressJet airlines, and it has been used by several airlines for painting their aircraft including XJET, ASA, VivaAerobus, JetBlue.
Hope to come back with more information as soon as I get it...
R.I.P and my prayers for the families of the crew.
Tb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1586 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 30827 times:
My thoughts and prayers are with the families of both guys right now. Weather doesn't look like it was that nice last night down there in MMIO. That is by far my least favorite airport to go into in the world believe it or not, especially at night with bad weather and being tired. During the day it is ok but even then, it is mountainous with approaches I don't like.
It's a pretty safe bet that it was hauling auto freight. JUS is a pretty good company and I know most of the guys there are proud of their operation.
Quoting David_mx (Thread starter): The DC-9 crashed in a adjacent road called "libramiento" which is a loop that surrounds the southbound border of the airport. A friend lives just a mile away from the airport and told me that he heard the loud explosion and sirens but he never though it was a crash.
So it was on the south side of the airport? If so, they were either in the circle to land(which is a no-no for me at night) or on a go around since all approaches are from the North.
Godspeed to my fellow Freightdog and I really hope the FO does alright.
F9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5025 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 30516 times:
Quoting UPSMD11 (Reply 7): Of course we do not know "why" the aircraft crashed yet but I'm sure age isn't always a factor, it's how it's maintained and how it's flown.
They take good care of their old birds, and they do passenger charters as well. I suspect they were taking the plane in for painting or maintenance? The crash looks survivable when looking at the cockpit section. Very sad to hear 1 perished in the crash.
I toured one of their planes once, and was amazed at the history of it.
On a side note, it almost appears the aircraft was straight on the road. Were they perhaps trying to set her down on the road? Perhaps an emergency of some sort? Kind of reminds me of a Southern DC-9 that tried to make an emergency landing on a road in Georgia in the late 60's or early 70's. Yes I could try to look up the date, but I am too tired to do so.
MX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 628 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 29643 times:
I worked for USA Jet when they first started operations in Dec 94 with 5 DC-9 freighters. I quit the company a year later but I always kept up with how they were doing. I believe this is their first major accident in their 13 year history.
I would also like to extend my sympathies and prayers to both pilots and their families.
727forever From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 793 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 29077 times:
Quoting Tb727 (Reply 9): That is by far my least favorite airport to go into in the world believe it or not, especially at night with bad weather and being tired. During the day it is ok but even then, it is mountainous with approaches I don't like.
I couldn't agree more. I loved going to SLW, but hated flying in there if that makes sense. In my opinion that airport borders on dangerous and shouldn't be operating there without RNP capability. I always fealt up to the challenge, but flew with others that I fealt the procedures were beyond their abilities sometimes, e.g. because we had been flying all night prior to doing a very complicated approach.
David_mx From Mexico, joined Nov 1999, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 28700 times:
Well, I commuted to Saltillo in order to take some pictures, but road is closed at least 1.5 miles away from the site.
The aircraft is on the near road probably facing north, there's a crane working as we speak. From the Monterrey highway is impossible to determine where it landed, I hope to have more information. I know a bunch of people at Saltillo and hopefully will get more accurate info.
Quoting Tb727 (Reply 9): So it was on the south side of the airport? If so, they were either in the circle to land(which is a no-no for me at night) or on a go around since all approaches are from the North.
Exactly is on the southern boundary of the airport, which I can assume it was a VOR or Visual Approach to RWY 35 circle to land RWY 17. Exactly is a no-no condition at the airport.
I was a passenger flying with Vivaaerobus from Hermosillo exactly at 1:17 a.m. since we were on descent at the direct route to MTY when we crossed in the middle of Monclova and Saltillo my seat was 17A so I had a somewhat clear view of Saltillo, and I'm pretty sure they had marginal VFR, just as MTY at the time of landing. I don't know if you can get the METAR or NOTAM at that time.
What we know now is the following:
It was a DC9 reg N199US flying from Shreveport Intl as JUS199, according to Vanguardia Newspaper it was carrying aprox 3.9 tons of cargo for the Manga Powertrain Company, also the same news paper, which by the way was the first one reporting this accident, is stating that the captain Lom McIntosh perished on the site, the first officer Christofer M. James is in critical condition at Muguerza Hospital in Saltillo.
There is a very shocking photo at this newspaper that I won't post here for respect to their families.
El norte (reforma) newspaper is stating that the aircraft "exploded" on the air which in my opinion is completely inaccurate, since we all can see the fuselage damage. Of course this is only speculation, since at the crash site no one wanted to make any type of statement.
My prayers for their families, and personnel involved on this awful accident.
F9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5025 posts, RR: 28
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 27877 times:
Quoting David_mx (Reply 17): There is a very shocking photo at this newspaper that I won't post here for respect to their families.
I saw the photo you are talking about regarding the pic of the copilot. He looks like he is very roughed up, but he appears to be alive in the photo. I sure hope he survives. The fire must have been pretty intense. I am shocked the captain did not survive, as his side of the cockpit looks in better shape than where the copilot was seated. My prayers are with the copilot.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25117 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 26903 times:
Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 11): and speaking of Southern, I see this plane was with Hughes Air West & Republic, did it ever go to NW?
I don't think it ever operated with NW. As far as I can tell it was originally delivered to CO in October 1967. It's a DC-9-15RC built with a main deck cargo door. CO operated about 20 of that model. This one was leased to Southern for 2 months in 1972 and then went to Hughes Airwest in 1973 which merged with Republic in 1980. Since 1984 it appears to have been operated only by cargo carriers, first Purolator Courier from 1984 to 1987, then Emery Worldwide from 1987 to 1996, and since then with USA Jet Aitlines. It's had 4 registrations since new. N8910, N9350, N567PC, and N199US.
KAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1958 posts, RR: 33
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 26389 times:
Saltillo is an extremely challenging airport to operate in and out of. There is little room for error, it probably ranks up there in the top 5 or 10 most challenging airports with 121 service in north america.
Condolences to the family of the deceased, and a speedy recovery to F.O. James.