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What Was Pan Am Clipper Class?  
User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2351 posts, RR: 21
Posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12992 times:

Hey Guys:

I was looking at an old seat map of a Pan Am 747, and I saw that their 747's were in a 3 class layout. First, Clipper and of course Economy. I am curious however as to what exactly Clipper Class was? I am guessing it might have been their "business class" but I am not positively sure. If anyone has any pictures please feel free to post them!


I was intrigued by this photo to look at some old Pan Am 747 stuff! :


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Photo © Dave Mills



Those first class seats do seem rather comfortable!


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User currently offlineHAWAIIAN932 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12980 times:

Exactly, Clipper Class was Pan Am's Business Class. I was Platinum with Pan Am for many years. Their Clipper Class layout on a 747 was 2-2-2. The same as First Class. I could buy the least expensive economy ticket with them and would be automatically upgraded to Clipper Class, space available of course. It was just like flying First Class. I have so many wonderful memories of flying PA. I miss their huge PAN AM in blue on the sides of their 747's.

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26980 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12950 times:

I miss Pan Am also. I used to love seeing their 747s/727's flying over my house. A neighbour of mine was a FA for them.

User currently offlineAviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1352 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12935 times:

I am told that PA's Clipper Class was the industry's first business class, and that's where the "C" seating code (e.g. F,C,Y) comes from.

Anyone know if this is true?

PS



Patrick Smith is an airline pilot, air travel columnist and author
User currently offlineAnsett767 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12875 times:

I was under the impression that Qantas airways (Australia) was the pioneer of Business class. But I could be wrong - just what I heard....

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26980 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12832 times:

History

The first business class seats were offered by Qantas in 1979. On November 1, 1981, Scandinavian Airlines System introduced EuroClass with a separate cabin, dedicated check-in counters and lounges for full-fare passengers. Simultaneously, first class disappeared from their European fleet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_class


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8375 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12779 times:
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Pan AM's Business Class was "Clipper Class". Interesting how those First Class seats of the 1980's look like today's Business Class. Flew Clipper Class several times from LHR & Nice to JFK.

User currently offlinePygmalion From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 966 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12779 times:

This was the original Pan Am Clipper Service aboard the Boeing 314 Clipper





the Boeing 314



User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2351 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12757 times:

How was the service on Pan Am during those days (1980's and onwards) ? Was the crew at least somewhat polite despite some of the problems the airline faced during those times.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25311 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12714 times:



Quoting HAWAIIAN932 (Reply 1):
It was just like flying First Class.

Not quite. Only about 38 or 40 inch seat pitch vs. 55 to 60 inches in first class, and first class had sleeper seats with legrests.

Quoting Aviateur (Reply 3):
I am told that PA's Clipper Class was the industry's first business class, and that's where the "C" seating code (e.g. F,C,Y) comes from.

PA wasn't the first business class product. I have been told that BA's "Club" class was the origin for the IATA "C" code but there are various stories about that.

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 8):
How was the service on Pan Am during those days (1980's and onwards) ?

It deteriorated a lot in the last few years and some of PA's aircraft were getting very shabby. They couldn't afford to spend to spend money on things like that when they were fighting for survival.


User currently offlineDenverdanny From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12508 times:

I really love this Clipper Class commercial from Pan Am.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XwbDCoImQw


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