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Rolls Royce Promotes Larger Turboprop  
User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3757 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5462 times:

In another post, I was talk about somebody elses great ideal for a 737/320 size turboprop that use two TP400, called the Turboliner. I thought it was a good ideal, and it look like Rolls Royce is thinking the same thing. You can find the article in the latest Flightglobal, ware RR asking for a 150 seat airliner design around the TP400. I am have a hard time down loading the article, may be somebody will get better results. As to the topic, may be this will catch Boeing and Airbus attention.  Wink

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User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5224 times:



Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
As to the topic, may be this will catch Boeing and Airbus attention.

Would the airplane be fast enough to satisfy potential airlines?



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User currently offlineJoecanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5478 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5172 times:

Didn't p&wc have an engine proposed for the a400? The CRJ and Dash 8 have been a great combo for BBD using a very similar 4 seat cross section. I wonder if it's possible that the 5 seat cross section of the CSeries would make another successful turbo/jet combination.


What the...?
User currently offlineNicoEDDF From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 1110 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5131 times:



Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 1):
Would the airplane be fast enough to satisfy potential airlines?

I guess, the routes wouldn't be longer than 300nm in most cases anyway. On such short hops, the lower speed of a prop is not a big factor.

300nm from FRA gives you all Germany, Switzerland and Austria, Belgium, Netherlands and the east of France including Paris...


User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2036 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4892 times:

When you add in the time of getting to the airport, check in and security delays, air traffic control delays, landing delays etc the extra 15 minutes flight time on a short haul flight becomes fairly insignificant if the fuel savings are great enough!

I look forward to seeing a Vickers Vanguard NG in production  Wink



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User currently offlineR2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2771 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4415 times:



Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 1):
Would the airplane be fast enough to satisfy potential airlines?

The A400M cruises at Mach 0.70 and jet cruising altitudes. On a typical A320/737 short run, where you're not cruising at optimum speed and altitude for that long, that 0.08 Mach difference is cancelled out by the superior climb performance of the prop, and total block time would be similar.


User currently offlineRheinbote From Germany, joined May 2006, 1968 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4309 times:



Quoting R2rho (Reply 5):
The A400M cruises at Mach 0.70 and jet cruising altitudes.

What's the use of cruising at jet cruise altitudes with a prop?  scratchchin 


User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4206 times:



Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
You can find the article in the latest Flightglobal, ware RR asking for a 150 seat airliner design around the TP400. I am have a hard time down loading the article, may be somebody will get better results.

Link:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...boprop-solution-for-new-civil.html


User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3284 times:

I would argue that nearly every flight carried out by 737 classics and many A320/73NG routes are candidates to be run by a prop of similar size. Anything under 1,000 miles would be workable fairly easily with a prop.


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User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3198 times:



Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 4):
I look forward to seeing a Vickers Vanguard NG in production Wink

Me too ! I have many excellent memories of flying on AC's mighty Vanguard in the 60s. Those huge oval windows. Enormous props (IIRC 16 ft 'wingspan') and powerful Tyne engines, along with slotted flaps giving it excellent field performance. 425mph cruise @ FL220-250 -- it was generally only about 20 mins behind a DC8 on the YWG-YYZ run. Plus it carried a passle of freight in the lower half of the fuse.

Only 43 were ever built, as it entered service too late to counter the onrush of the jet age. I think the Tyne had a rather difficult gestation and held the a/c back somewhat. Had it been available 2 years earlier, who knows what might have happened ? I don't think it would ever have been a huge seller (neither was the Electra, although it did much better with about 170 sales) but definitely more than 43.

One of my favourite rides.



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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9229 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3160 times:

Interesting, ATR is looking at defining a new family of aircraft at the moment as well. Wonder if this will go to the larger size RR is suggesting.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ies-into-new-turboprop-family.html



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User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

Turboprops are back with a vengeance

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ops-are-back-with-a-vengeance.html

Quote:
The resurgence in demand for turboprops that began a few years ago shows no sign of diminishing, as soaring fuel prices prompt airlines to seek more efficient short-haul transport aircraft. And just as market interest in regional jets is now focused on larger types, a call for turboprops in the 90-seat range is being increasingly fielded by incumbents ATR and Bombardier.



User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2351 times:



Quoting Zeke (Reply 10):
Interesting, ATR is looking at defining a new family of aircraft at the moment as well. Wonder if this will go to the larger size RR is suggesting.



Quoting Aviationbuff (Reply 11):
a call for turboprops in the 90-seat range is being increasingly fielded by incumbents ATR and Bombardier.

My impression is the TP400 might be a good choice for 120-150 seat aircraft.



For ATR & Bombardier aircraft up to 100 seats GE might have something better: a new ~7500hp GE38 turboshaft under development for the CH53K. http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-future-in-emerging-heavylift.html


User currently offlineNickstyro From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2305 times:



Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
elses great ideal for a 737/320



Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
I thought it was a good ideal

Im sorry, but it should be idea not ideal. Its just a pet peeve of mine.


User currently offlineR2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2771 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2117 times:



Quoting Rheinbote (Reply 6):

What's the use of cruising at jet cruise altitudes with a prop?

For longer flights where that could have a use, it means being able to use existing air traffic patterns for jets. You don't mess up ATC by having a slow prop flying around at high altitudes.

Quoting Zeke (Reply 10):
Wonder if this will go to the larger size RR is suggesting.

It says the baseline for the family would be somewhere between 70-98 seats, so a step above the current ATRs. But the proposed EIS date is too far away in my opinion. There is a market for that much earlier, and who knows what A&B may have come up with by then?


User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2076 times:



Quoting Rheinbote (Reply 6):
What's the use of cruising at jet cruise altitudes with a prop? scratchchin

Fly over the weather instead of through it.


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