WesternA318 From United States, joined Oct 2004, 4349 posts, RR: 29 Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 19740 times:
OMG what a beautiful jet. Any ideas what routes she'll fly?
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WesternA318 From United States, joined Oct 2004, 4349 posts, RR: 29 Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 19585 times:
when will she be flying in service?
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WesternA318 From United States, joined Oct 2004, 4349 posts, RR: 29 Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 19321 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8): One daily each from Bogota to Madrid and Miami.
Any idea on when they start?
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MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 3416 posts, RR: 47 Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 19165 times:
Will Avianca take and operate all the A-330s AND 787s they have on order, now Oceanair doesn't seem to go anywhere and their Ecuadorian and (late) Peruvian outlets also give little hope to expand outside the country?
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777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 856 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 18612 times:
Thanks for the pics Ricardo. I've been waiting a long time for this (Also thanks for your US MIA-MAD TR, quite unique with the youtube slide show and all.....)
Talking about this, there's quite a fuss in this market. AV and LA now have U$37 roundtrip fares in Y, I just booked it. I guees trying to fight against NK?? (Sorry but i'm not trying to hijack this thread, just don't think it deserves a new one).
Cheers
JAAH
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RCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 3297 posts, RR: 16 Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 18430 times:
Its a very nice aircraft, the livery complimets it very well. Does anyone remeber the config? I think its gonna be something like 18J/220Y.....
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8): One daily each from Bogota to Madrid and Miami.
They will receive two A330s this year.
One will be on BOG-MAD-BOG, and the other will be on BOG-MIA-BOG-LIM-BOG (that is the rotation that the 767 makes right now).
Quoting 777jaah (Reply 18): Talking about this, there's quite a fuss in this market. AV and LA now have U$37 roundtrip fares in Y, I just booked it. I guees trying to fight against NK??
$37!? Where did you find that? That´s just dumping....
Thorben From Germany, joined Sep 2005, 3243 posts, RR: 4 Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 18355 times:
In the first shot it looks like they also painted the floor with that red color. Besides, why is it completely painted before getting the engines? Normally the planes at TLS have the engines before the paint is added, they fly around with that olive green fuselage.
Very nice plane, however. I assume this is c/n 948?? It is one of the highlights that I'm looking for. Others are:
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 5781 posts, RR: 14 Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 18265 times:
Quoting NA (Reply 12): Very pretty. Avianca´s liveries have always been nice since the 70s.
I fully agree on that. That is one very beautiful A330!!! I hope it will do some crew familiarization flights to CUR before going to MIA & MAD. It will probably not happen but who knows
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 25844 posts, RR: 77 Reply 25, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 18153 times:
Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 21): hopefully that will make AA upgrade the MIA-BOG w/a better fleet type.
Bogota-based FA's are currently being trained for the 777 in preparation of the morning flight switching to a 772 this winter. It is already set to switch to a 763 in the mean time.
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26 RICARIZA: Jejeje, thanks. I am glad you liked it.. it was such a great experience on the A-330, I truly loved it.
27 Jfk777: AA is putting the 777 on the BOG to Miami route. One upsmanship on this route seems a little much given its only a 3 and a half hour flight.
28 PanAm747LHR: What a gorgeous aircraft! Congratulations to everyone at Avianca! Hope to see it sometime up here in New York! Nick
30 BA319-131: Given the choice I'd take an A330 over a 777 any day. M
31 Avianca: as per my understanding they will use it also on the CLO - MAD route....
32 SXDFC: Just after looking at these pictures, I fell in love with the aircraft! You can almost smell the new paint looking at those pictures!
33 Solnabo: What! Is Royal Jordanian to get a 340-600 or is it a typo? Dont have to tell you that this Avianca 330-200 is a beauty as they all are. Love the c/s
34 Hirnie: Stunning!!! She's a beauty!!!! How many of those beauties will AV recieve in total?
35 Thorben: They are, but it will be a government plane. Certainly not, it was on my list, just as the others I mentioned. I really can't wait to see the SU A332
36 RICARIZA: Some others from the same forum, Thank you CEYA.
37 Alitalia744: what kinda engines is she gonna be hanging?
38 Solnabo: You are so right, SU got one of the most stunning liveries out there. Wish SK could get some too, their liveries are acceptable *imo* and would look
41 SJOtoLIR: We've previously commented in this forum that AV is planning to resume flights from London and Frankfurt. Probably, they can do it once they take deli
42 IBERIA747: Very nice. Congratulations!. Next time I fly to South America I may consider Avianca and their A330s. Saludos.
43 777jaah: av.com They still have those fares for the rest of the year (Not sure about the high season really...). I just spent COL$ 1.700.000 on 3 tickets roun
44 Troest: I was told that the first flight will be BOG-EZE-BOG, then BOG-CLO-MAD-CLO-BOG RR trents
45 Reggaebird: I am not as impressed with this livery on the A330 as I thought I would be. Maybe I need to see it in its full glory in real daylight and with more no
46 A388: I might go to MIA via BOG to fly AV's A320/319 and A332 instead of flying directly from CUR to MIA Wow, what a nice aircraft that is!!!!! A388
47 SXDFC: Any idea what the interior is going to look like? Both in business and economy? I am sure it will be an improvement from whats on the 767's.
48 777jaah: PTVs in Y and lie-flats in J. I just booked BOG-MIA MIA-CLO-BOG for U$37 + taxes, roundtrip. The second segment, only to have a try of AV's 320, and
49 Airplane: Wow how shiny ! Congratulations AV and Colombia Cheers JP
50 A388: I read about those prices in this thread, but I just searched for flights from BOG-MIA for 3 days in August but I didn't see those very low prices, h
51 SJOtoLIR: I concur that AV BOG-FLL and AV BOG-MIA are struggling with the upcoming NK BOG-FLL that will begin on July 24th. Rumor has it that NK wants the B6's
52 SOUTHAMERICA: Struggling? I would hardly call it that. AV should be quite confident in their position on these routes. BOG-MIA is a traditional strong route for th
53 747400sp: Oh it's new, Thought Avianca bought used A330's. It looks good!
54 Bogota: 70 new planes, including 10 A330, 12 B787 and the rest are A319/320.
55 SJOtoLIR: The point that I made early was rather focusing to the uncertain behavior that the market-share between South Florida and Bogota would assume later t
56 MAH4546: "Struggling" is all relative. The routes are still strong performers; and in some markets, despite Spirit's entry, AA is now getting better yields th
57 777jaah: Now AA has a U$26 roundtrip. Check dates around october-november, you might get them. That makes every legacy having ULCC in the route: AV, AA and LA
58 A388: Okay thanks. I will search flights tonight. Unfortunately I will not be able to afford travel this year and I am chosing between a Caribbean trip or
60 SXDFC: Since Avianca is getting new planes, what are their plans for their Fokker 100 and 50 fleet? I suppose the Airbus planes will replace the Fokker 100,
62 777jaah: No. They will stay for a while. The Airbus will replace the MD83 fleet. The F-50 will also stay for a whila. Wait a year, you'll probably get that me
67 Ual747-600: Thanks for the good pictures of a great looking airplane. Does Airbus paint all their planes without engines attached? UAL747-600
68 A388: I looked up the AV ticket prices for CUR-BOG between 16 Oct and 20 Oct and the price is 224 U.S. Dollars each way, which is 448 U.S. Dollars in total!
69 Avianca: well the Fokker 100 can be used for some international expancion - like more routes to Venezuela - go double daily to VLN as an example. Start MAR an
70 RICARIZA: Or maybe start the Avianca-Paraguay... (?)
71 Bogota: I thought there was a letter of intention or something of the sort but no formal order.
72 A388: A quick search on the Airbus website will give you all the answers about AV and the A350XWB. A388
73 WINGS: Synergy Aerospace to acquire ten A350 XWB Toulouse, 13 February 2008 http://www.eads.net/1024/en/pressdb/...bus_synergy_aerospace_a350xwb.html Synergy
74 Tavong: AV still hasn´t said which will be their internal configuratio excepting that PTVs in Y, and li flat seats in J an the return of F. But other else,
75 LACA773: Will AV use the 330s on BOG-LAX-BOG or is it too much plane for that route and it will stay a 762 until a replacement comes around?
76 Luv2fly: That is one very sharp looking plane to say the very least.
77 RCS763AV: Yes, those might be the first flights. But then it will fly to MAD and MIA-LIM. Some EZE rotations as well, as the fleet builds up. I would say there
78 SOUTHAMERICA: Avianca is configuring the A330 with 3 classes including F? I had no idea. If this is true, how stupid of them. They must be pretty blind or naive no
79 A388: Maybe they are not so stupid at all and actually see a bigger international market compared to the Colombian market alone...? A388[Edited 2008-07-09
80 Troest: Completely agree. One has to remember that Avianca is not aiming solely on the Colombian market but also for the region and Europe/USA. When "El Nuev
81 Tavong: I´m deeply sorry for causing confusion here, i´ve checked the official sources and SA is rigth, the Airbus A330s in AV´s fleet will be 18J and 260
82 SOUTHAMERICA: Of course. There is no doubt in my mind that AV cannot successfully run a 3-class fleet. The market is just not there. Wake up people, not even regio
83 Avianca: couldnt agree more !!! In Colombia is no market for a F class, same goes for Venezuela, Peru, Ecuador ....
84 Jfk777: I don't question Avianca could do a 3 class airplane but why would they want to have an 8 First Cabin on an A330 which would sell 2 seats seats daily
85 777jaah: In fact, who in the region has been able to do so succesfully?? Maybe AM could but I'm not sure if they already offer F in some routes. JAAH
86 SOUTHAMERICA: That may be true, but I think Avianca wouldn't think twice in putting F class on the airplanes if they ever saw the oportunity to fill it profitably.
87 SJOtoLIR: Finally, some accurate figures related to the market-share between Bogota and South Florida: Passengers traveling from Bogota to Miami. One-way. ...Fi
88 777jaah: Has anyone ever in this part of the world ever offered a real F product?? Maybe RG (you clarified AM only offers J)?? Sure, but I don't think, inthe
89 Jfk777: TAM from Brazil has a decent First Class on their A330 and soon 777. LAN had a First on their A340 but has since discontinued it, they upgrade their
90 LACA773: Will BOG-LAX-BOG ever go 332 or will it stay a 762?
91 MotorHussy: What a beautiful shiny plane it is!
92 Avianca: I would say on the long run yes... well the 332 is perfect plane for cargo... and BOG-LAX-BOG has a lot of potential - outbound a lot of perishables
93 LACA773: Wow! This will be great if they do make the switch and will allow you guys to carry a lot more cargo compared to the 762s. If they get connected to a
94 RICARIZA: Any news about the alliance? We haven't heard any in a while... Star, Skyteam?
95 Avianca: good question, I think it all depends what will happen with CM after CO switches to *
96 Jfk777: Since Skyteam has Copa and AeroMexico & Star seems to be on its way to TAM, Avianca should go with Star. AA and LAN represent Onewrorld well in South
97 Avianca: could not agree more ! the big question is, how long will be Copa still in Sky
98 RCS763AV: It would be naive for AV to ignore the core colmbian market, which has huge O/D. Its a very different story than Panama, given that the whole country
99 Av757: Avianca's Airbuses are going to be A330-243's with Rolls Royce Trent 700 engines. They will be configured in a two class passenger layout, 18F/260Y. C
100 A388: Well this confirms our discussion about AV and the A350: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4070025/ Their A350 MoU has
101 Tavong: And the 767-300 Is not a posibility? I really don´t know if the B767-300 does have the legs to do BOG-LAX at full Pax and Cargo, but if anyone can c
102 AV757: Both of Avianca's Boeing 763's, with PW 4062 engines can make the average 6:50 hour flight on the BOG-LAX route non stop with a full passenger load a
103 XJETFlyer: I love the fresh paint of new planes. Nice different look.
104 Avianca: only 4 tons... ? that is a misserable payload for arround 60cbm ...
105 Jfk777: I was hoping for 24 -30 J Class, does anyone have a picture of teh new "First" or is it more like a super Business Class ?
106 AV757: No first class for Avianca only business class. AV757
107 RICARIZA: SEPT 11 the first delivery ah? Oh well, the only thing that matters is to get it and being able to see it flying...!
108 Fyano773: Nice bird and great pics, thanx for sharing. Is the A332 replacing the 767 fleet and what will happen to those 767s? Regards, Fyano
109 777jaah: Starting when?? I hope I can ride in one of them in next trip to MIA next october. Some will stay for a while, waiting for the 787s to come. Maybe ot
110 A388: As far as I know AV will convert some (or all?) of their 767s to full freighters to join the AV Cargo fleet. QT is already taken over by AV so QT wil
111 Danimarroquin: when will this happen ? its been a long time since AV acquire QT , but haven't seen any change . I started to think that QT will stay as QT and not a
112 NA: This aircarft was painted in early July. I´ve noticed regularly that it takes longer for an Airbus widebody between painting and delivery than for a
113 A388: I'm not sure if AV Cargo will change the QT liveries to AV Cargo liveries but that was/is my assumption. As to the date I don't know that but mergers
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