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Whats The Status Of VLM/AF/Cityjet?  
User currently offlineSeansasLCY From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2007, 839 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2611 times:

Its been a while since AF announced they were buying VLM does anybody know whats going on?
Will VLM become part of the Cityjet operation?

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User currently offlineEmile From Netherlands, joined Nov 2000, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2512 times:

no news ?????????? .asked a gate steward at amsterdam when I could earn FB points- he said there is no cooperation yet, or any news!

User currently offlineSkyteam10001 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

I found this online, OFT decision from June 10

quite interesting

http://www.oft.gov.uk/advice_and_res...gers_home/decisions/2008/airfrance

basically, AFKL is offering to give up 3 morning slots and 4 morning slots on the LCY-AMS route to keep competition at the level it was before they bought VLM

Since English is not my first language, I am not sure I understand fully the legal jargon they use, but I am assuming the decision they took on June 10 was to agree with what AFKL is offering ?

If anyone can confirm that would be great

A.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24786 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2372 times:



Quoting Skyteam10001 (Reply 2):
Since English is not my first language, I am not sure I understand fully the legal jargon they use, but I am assuming the decision they took on June 10 was to agree with what AFKL is offering ?

That's basically how I read it but they haven't made a final decision yet. It says they're "considering" the AF-KL offer re the slots but they don't seem to have any major concerns.

I assume the EU competition authority also has to approve the merger. Does anyone know the status of that?


User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2250 times:

My understanding is that they want to have an actual competitor on the route rather than just the prospect of some competition. Not sure how this can be guaranteed unless BACF is interested in ramping up frequency. I mean the OFT or AFKL cannot force someone onto the route just to have some real competition for AFKL.

Add to that the fact that other than BACF and AFKL, the number of potential airlines willing to operate on the route is somewhat limited. Unless bmi or flybe make a return to LCY, I have difficulties identifying someone who might want to take the risk of a standalone LCY-AMS operation (realistically, LCY nowadays is a three airline airport: AF (+ KL/VG), BA and LH (+LX etc.). Probably bmi would be best suited given their existing LHR-AMS service and the sizeable Star Alliance operation at LCY. But the problem is that if KLM sticks to the VLM formula, it will be very difficult to lure passengers away from the incumbents.


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