Drgmobile From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 557 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 11164 times:
Well that was quicker than I expected. If I was somebody trying to throw water on what is a positive news story for the two companies, right now I'd be trying to take a look at the ATA-Southwest partnership and analyze what went wrong and draw comparisons.
....they are completely different situations, of course, but that never stopped somebody with an agenda.
N202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1551 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 11087 times:
Could this be a prelude to the long-rumored WestJet expansion to the northeast/midwest portion of the US? That's the one weakness of this marriage, based on the current route map - there aren't any places that the two currently link up outside of Florida and the southwest portion of the country.
The cost of transborder flying from the northeast would indicate that this would be a good place for the two airlines to link up. Maybe at BWI, MHT and MDW?
ChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3909 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 10528 times:
Quoting BE77 (Reply 12): they probably feel there isn't much their competition can to do with the information.
Right now and probably for several months, neither can customers.
Say you're a stock market analyst and you want to probe a bit to find out more. How many times will you be willing to hear, 'We'll be announcing those details later on...' before you just roll your eyes and give up?
Southwestjeteh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 9929 times:
Hi everyone! First day as a member of airliners.net and one of the happiest days of my life in the industry!!! This WN/WS partnership is great news and (I believe) is going to be huuuuuge... -oh, the posibilities! (or should I say: -the posibilities... eh?)
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25 Gilesdavies: In some respects yes it will, give Southwest access to Hawaii again, but I am pretty sure passengers flying from the US into Canada and back to anoth
26 Drgmobile: Could this be a prelude to the long-rumored WestJet expansion to the northeast/midwest portion of the US? That's the one weakness of this marriage, ba
27 Sebring: It probably wasn't supposed to come out for some time but the SW CEO made an oblique reference to it in an interview, and because the partnership is
28 EA CO AS: It was announced now because WN's CEO slipped and mentioned it during an interview with a Chicago newspaper a few days ago. Here's part of yesterday'
29 Railker: Now there's an interesting name should they ever merge and repaint their fleets ... SouthWestJet. Quite a mouthful too, it seems.
30 Visityyj: As someone who has previously pooh-poohed the notion of a WS/WN codeshare, I'm still reserving judgement. As recently as last month, my sources were f
31 Viscount724: As long as one leg is on a U.S. carrier I don't see a problem. However, WestJet (or any Canadian carrier) cannot legally sell a ticket all the way be
32 777YYC: So much for WS joining Oneworld then, right?
33 MAH4546: It's illegal. It is cabatoge. You can fly a U.S. carrier domestic via Canada (i.e. UA IAD-YYZ-DEN) or a Canadian carrier domestic via the U.S. (i.e.
34 Humberside: While some people are getting excited about Westjet flying to every WN focus city isn't it more likely that Westjet will expand US flying a more measu
35 Jeffrey1970: I don't think there was anything wrong with the partnership. I could be wrong, but I think that ATA just did not have a lot of cash in the vault.
36 Syncmaster: ATA lost their military contract, that's what went wrong. The ATA scheduled service - the Hawaii service, not Midway - was actually growing and did w
37 TheHangarCat: So I see WN planes flying up to Canada into one of 4 WS focus cities YVR, YYC, YWG and YYZ. YWG because of it's mid continental location... Now YYZ mi
38 Brilondon: Won't my ex-neighbours along Queens Quay love more traffic. Most of these arrogant jerks want to shut down YTZ, I on the other hand would like to see
39 Yegbey01: not necessarily!!! They will They would need to run YVR, YEG. YOW and YUL to MDW.
40 MCOflyer: I would hope to see daily service from these cities that WS will/or is serving. Will WN handle ground service in these cities? Hunter
41 RickYHM: WN has been to YHM a few times and YHM management has meet with WN as resently as the late winter early spring.
42 Brons2: I don't think WN planes will cross the border, I think WS will do all the crossborder flying as they have more to gain by accessing WN's US network.
43 MMEPHX: hhhmmm...how about a new location in the uppper midwest...say a nice new station at MSP for WN & WS...WN feeding into MSP...WS fedeing out of MSP to
44 Byrdluvs747: Not if they're partnered with WN. This deal kills any chance of that.
45 Cjpark: You do realize that this was taken into consideration in the compromise don't you? International code share is allowed in so much as the connections
46 Ckfred: Does the agreement preclude West Jet from entering into any other code shares with U.S. carriers? Think about the number of airlines that AS code shar
47 MasseyBrown: If it is a signed agreement, and the press release says it is, SEC rules say it must be reported promptly in an 8-K filing. If the CEO's comment refe
48 Chinook747: I would love to see a WS YYC-DEN flight. Right now we have UA and AC on this route round trip fares sometimes can be quite high for very little servi
49 YWG747: It will probably be the transfer point for 4 ports. YVR, YYC, YED, YWG if not more. I can't wait for this to go through. It is going to be a great th
50 PVD757: I'd like to see WestJet serve PVD with a few flights to key Canadian cities. PVD could also offer some decent connecting opportunites to the WN system
51 Drgmobile: WS even seems to have gone to the trouble of holding back news of their disappointing June numbers so that they would be lost in today's news. A 76% l
52 Manu: You do know other airlines fly to Canada, right? (poke-poke) I'm just waiting for a FedEx and UPS merger for a cool name YHM is difficult to get to.
53 Drgmobile: I would consider going out of YTZ, but that's limited to props right now and WestJet's aircraft are all 737's. 737s out of Toronto City Centre. I am t
54 TheHangarCat: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...080709.RWESTJET09/TPStory/Business The cat is officially out of the bag now.. Seems like it's gonna be WS plane
55 ORDagent: The press here in Chicago has been talking about WN saying that they have a lot of ability to expand at MDW and that WS codeshare would start at MDW a
56 Drgmobile: The press here in Chicago has been talking about WN saying that they have a lot of ability to expand at MDW and that WS codeshare would start at MDW a
57 Yegbey01: disagree with your quote..."used to be" is the more appropriate description!!!
58 Manu: The Gardner Expressway is way more noisy than a 737. Maybe we should just close it, and have WS land on the Gardner for their operations from downtow
59 Olympus69: The only jets permitted to use YTZ are Medevac flights. The chances of this policy changing any time in the forseeablr future are infinitesimal. The
60 Yegbey01: Still puzzels me that AC JAzz is not allowed back at YTZ
61 Drgmobile: Still puzzels me that AC JAzz is not allowed back at YTZ It apparently puzzles Jazz too. There's a lawsuit on. I realize the details are on terminal a