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Horizon To Fly LAX - Mammoth Lakes  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24312 posts, RR: 47
Posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4334 times:

Horizon will operate seasonal service between December 18th - April 12, 2009 connecting LAX and the popular Mammoth Mountain ski area utilizing Q400s.

LAX-MMH 1420-1525
MMH-LAX 1605-1710

Tickets on sale July 14th.


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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5772 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4310 times:

Good to see the details. The Environmental Study for MMH to have commercial service was approved a few weeks ago so I've been waiting for QX to announce.
http://www.epa.gov/EPA-IMPACT/2008/June/Day-10/i12772.htm



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User currently offlineTylerDurden From United States of America, joined May 2008, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4256 times:

Now if they'd just use an aircraft that has window shades, reclining seats, and a sink in the lav.....
 Smile


User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5844 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4256 times:

The minimums are pretty high into MMH, with 1300-1 1/2 (and a GPS approach being the only published IAP.) However, that's no different than it used to be at SUN before the GPS approaches, and the terrain is pretty similar. I'm wondering if Horizon is going to commission an IAP for them so that they could achieve lower mins.


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User currently offlineRW717 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

What are they going to use as a terminal? From the satellite view on Google Earth it sure doesnt look like much.


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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5772 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4101 times:



Quoting RW717 (Reply 4):
What are they going to use as a terminal?

They are spending $1.5 million to remodel an existing maintenance building into a passenger terminal.



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User currently onlineRCoulter From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4072 times:

Should be a fun ride during a good sized snowstorm, plus that area the airport is in is really wind prone. Should be a great view though    

[Edited 2008-07-08 12:22:23]

User currently offlineRailker From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4055 times:



Quoting TylerDurden (Reply 2):

The Party Plane has window shades ... not sure if it has a sink. But no reclining seats.


User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4017 times:

Will there be any problems with the 100 foot wide runway and a wind prone airport?


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User currently offlineOsprey88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 330 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3999 times:



Quoting Boston92 (Reply 8):
Will there be any problems with the 100 foot wide runway and a wind prone airport?


Will their be problems?
Sure.

But it will be fun?  yes 

This should actually be quite a pretty approach into the airport, descending next to the mountains to land, almost like ASE.



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User currently onlineRCoulter From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3984 times:



Quoting Osprey88 (Reply 9):
This should actually be quite a pretty approach into the airport, descending next to the mountains to land, almost like ASE.

I agree, I drive down that way often and I have always wanted to take a flight around the area to see the beauty from above  Smile


User currently offlineOsprey88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 330 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3955 times:



Quoting RCoulter (Reply 10):
I agree, I drive down that way often and I have always wanted to take a flight around the area to see the beauty from above

I hope they descend down the Owens Valley following US395 all the way past Lake Crowley to land on Runway 27. That would make an absolutely spectacular flight.

Its also great to see the Eastern California region get its first commercial service. This will make it quite a bit easier for folks in the northern Owens Valley and Mono County to travel and easier for tourists who wish to get to access to the east side Yosemite, Sequioa, or Kings Canyon National Parks. I certainly hope this flight does well!



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5772 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3916 times:

They are repaving the runway, although the width will basically stay the same. But they are taking out the "hump" that was about midway down the runway.


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User currently offlineOntime From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3818 times:

I know there is a long history between the FAA and the town of Mammoth regarding the airport but I thought that there were still some issues to be resolved with the airport layout before Q400 flights could begin. This link (from the Sierra Club, so it's admittedly anti-air service) references problems with the airport layout which supposedly violates certain FAA regulations, even for regional jets:

http://nevada.sierraclub.org/rolgroup/text/airport/regional.html

Did the town fix those problems? Does it involve hangars being torn down?

(Also interesting to read some of the correspondence between the FAA and Mammoth over the mistakes made at the airport:

http://nevada.sierraclub.org/rolgrou...ext/airport/reference/faaoct04.pdf

The town currently has a $30 million jury verdict to the developer hanging over its head, based on claims that the airport development agreement was inconsistent with the town's FAA grants.)


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5829 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3741 times:
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Quoting TylerDurden (Reply 2):
Now if they'd just use an aircraft that has window shades, reclining seats, and a sink in the lav.....

Based on what used to fly to MMH, you're lucky if you had a lav. My information was based on Alpha Air service between OAK and LAX to MMH and Bishop, CA (can't remember the 3-letter code).


User currently onlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2390 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3634 times:
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Quoting Osprey88 (Reply 11):
Its also great to see the Eastern California region get its first commercial service

This is far from their first commercial service. List includes Sierra Pacific, Wings West, Air Sierra, Alpha Air, Mammoth Air Shuttle. Of course aircraft size was usually no larger than Jetstreams and Convairs of Sierra Pacific.

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 14):
Bishop, CA (can't remember the 3-letter code).

BIH is code.



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5829 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3511 times:
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I had to opportunity to fly OAK-MMH roundtrip on Alpha Air (Code 7V?) in a Cessna 402. The approach into MMH was stunning, especially from the co-pilot's seat.

In any case, it's good to see QX flying the route during the peak skiing season. It's too bad they won't extend their MMH route to BIH (thanks for the code).

Any chance for TVL?


User currently offlineOsprey88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 330 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3490 times:



Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 15):
This is far from their first commercial service. List includes Sierra Pacific, Wings West, Air Sierra, Alpha Air, Mammoth Air Shuttle. Of course aircraft size was usually no larger than Jetstreams and Convairs of Sierra Pacific.

I should have been more clear, since this QX service is the Eastern Sierra's first major scheduled passenger service in quite a while.

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 16):
Any chance for TVL?

I wish. TVL has very strict noise restrictions which would make commercial air service quite difficult. TRK might be another option for the area, but its probably too close to RNO.



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User currently onlineRCoulter From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3322 times:



Quoting Osprey88 (Reply 17):
I wish. TVL has very strict noise restrictions which would make commercial air service quite difficult. TRK might be another option for the area, but its probably too close to RNO.

TRK also has a ton of NIMBY's moving in. Another thing is TVL would be a bit more dangerous IMHO because it is in more of a forest and the mountains really encroach on on the airport also. The only place I could/would like to see it extended to would be MEV, everyone up here dreads the commute down 395 from RNO and I think if it was a few times a week it might work. That's just dreaming though  Smile  Wink


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24312 posts, RR: 47
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

Press release on the flight went out today.

Quote:
Horizon Air Announces Daily Flights to Mammoth
July 14

MAMMOTH LAKES, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Horizon Air announced today the airline will offer new daily nonstop flights from Los Angeles to Mammoth Mountain for the 2008/2009 winter sports season starting Dec. 18.

“The addition of commercial air service to Mammoth represents a big step toward realizing our shared vision to become a destination resort community,” said Rusty Gregory, CEO of Mammoth Mountain. “Horizon’s daily flights will allow the world to experience what Southern Californians have known for decades; that Mammoth is for everyone who wants to play big in the mountains. World class skiing and snowboarding in the winter along with fishing, hiking, golf and mountain biking in the summer plus great new food offerings provided by our partner, Patina Restaurant Group – it just doesn’t get any better than Mammoth.”

Horizon’s new flight is expected to boost tourism to Mammoth by facilitating inbound travel from a wide variety of national and international airlines that fly into LAX. Similarly, travelers from Mammoth will gain an easier way to travel, with connections to dozens of destinations coast to coast and around the world served by Alaska, Horizon and other airlines at LAX.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080714/20080714005691.html?.v=1



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