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User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1076 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

Most of the orders nowadays always come from none American airlines, and the two big guys (Airbus & Boeing) are eyeing Asian and Middle Eastern airlines.
The big question is why most American airlines doesn't re-bew their fleets, and go further in providing services and extra routes.
High oil pricesis not an excuse, because Singapore, China, Australian airlines are all placing orders.

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User currently offlineFRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1321 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2414 times:



Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
The big question is why most American airlines doesn't re-bew their fleets, and go further in providing services and extra routes.
High oil pricesis not an excuse, because Singapore, China, Australian airlines are all placing orders.

Most of them are still dramatically affected by the post 9/11 market. Plus, since the US companies did not have as efficient fleets, and have strong Domestic Networks, which are far less profitable, meaning they are in a less favorable position then many of the other global carriers from the start of this era of record oil cost, and that it will take a greater toll, and leave them less able to adapt.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2414 times:



Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
High oil pricesis not an excuse, because Singapore, China, Australian airlines are all placing orders.

Continental Airlines has orders thorugh like 2015 for new aircraft: 738's, 739ER's, 777's and 787's.


User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5415 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2339 times:



Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
High oil pricesis not an excuse, because Singapore, China, Australian airlines are all placing orders.

Remember, the US dollar has fallen dramatically in recent years. Oil has roughly doubled in Europe, for example, in the last five years. In the U.S., it's nearly quadrupled, because the dollar has sunk so fast.

The U.S. domestic industry also has unique financial problems because the stage lengths here are much longer than those of most European or Asian domestic flights, but the ticket prices aren't significantly different.


User currently onlineAABB777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 543 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2245 times:
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Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
High oil pricesis not an excuse, because Singapore, China, Australian airlines are all placing orders.

Next year AA will begin delivery of a large B738 order: 34 Boeing 738s in 2009 and 36 Boeing 738s in 2010.


User currently offlineZuluAviator994 From Australia, joined Mar 2008, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2217 times:



Quoting AABB777 (Reply 4):
Next year AA will begin delivery of a large B738 order: 34 Boeing 738s in 2009 and 36 Boeing 738s in 2010.

And American has slots reserved on the 787 productions line...which probably means they will buy them?



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User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2177 times:



Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
The big question is why most American airlines doesn't re-bew their fleets,

Because they don't have any money. That is due to a couple of reasons:

- Over-sized domestic networks with too much competition from LCCs.
- Too small international networsk with competition against foreign carriers with newer planes and better service level and a majority of foreign passengers.
- Low Dollar leading to exploding fuel cost and a disadvantage against airlines who are getting their planes a lot cheaper.

And most important:
-None of them is a state's flag-carrier with a government that wants to be on the map and is willing to pay losses. (EK, EY, QR, hello?)

Despite some orders mentioned here, there a still way too many old planes flying around with no replacement in sight.

UA: 100 B737, 30 B744, 100 B757, and 35 B767.
AA: 34 A306, 124 B757, 75 B767, 300 MadDogs
DL: 138 B757, 100 B767, 135 MadDogs
NW: 30 B747, 70 B757, 90 DC-9s
CO: New 787, 777, and 737 are not enough to replace all old 737, 757, and 767.
US: 737, 757, and 767 could be replaced with A32X and A332.


User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1076 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2112 times:



Quoting Thorben (Reply 6):
-None of them is a state's flag-carrier with a government that wants to be on the map and is willing to pay losses. (EK, EY, QR, hello?)

nobody mentioned those, although EK is an investment project by the government and is suffering from high oil prices.
but look at Singapore and Cathay Pacific it seems they have a good revenue's that makes them happy with the hot oil prices


User currently offlineFRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1321 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2059 times:



Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 7):
nobody mentioned those, although EK is an investment project by the government and is suffering from high oil prices.
but look at Singapore and Cathay Pacific it seems they have a good revenue's that makes them happy with the hot oil prices

But they lack the things mentioned by the previous post.
(They dont have major domestic networks, and they were on stronger footing (i.e. Less Debt, More Cash) before the oil crisis hit in such a big way.)



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