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LH To Upgrade MCO For Winter Schedule  
User currently offlineClipper136 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 318 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5095 times:

A bit of good news for MCO.

LH previously announced that Winter 08 schedule will go Daily, but have also announced the flight will be upgraded to A346.

First A346 scheduled into MCO. Sorry, no link to info. (internal reference)

:D

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User currently offlineMCOGVADCA From China, joined Oct 2006, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5090 times:

Great to hear, especially considering the recent deluge of disappointing news for MCO...


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User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5080 times:



Quoting Clipper136 (Thread starter):

Wow, outstanding! I wasn't expecting this. Great news for my home town of MCO!


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4985 times:

Very interesting development, especially taking into account that MCO is usually unfairly bashed as a low yielding destination.

LH setting the stage in MCO!

Rgs,


User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2968 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4972 times:

this will kill the First Class on this route as the FRA based 346ers have only a 2-class config, but nevertheless a smart move as demand to MCO/MIA/Florida especially in winther is very high!

User currently offlineTISTPAA727 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 327 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4938 times:
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I have no knowledge of this so excuse my ignorance. Now on to the question...

Is Florida that hot of a tourist destination for Germany? What other cities are popular destinations for Germany (non biz travel)?

Thanks!



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User currently offlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1451 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4837 times:

Increasing capacity on this route is a good thing in order to keep the competition with Air Berlin!
After the LH expansion at DUS increasing the capacity to Florida is just a logic step to attack the already hardly struggeling Air Berlin


User currently offlineCVG777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1251 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4780 times:



Quoting TISTPAA727 (Reply 5):
Is Florida that hot of a tourist destination for Germany? What other cities are popular destinations for Germany (non biz travel)?

Southwestern Florida is also rather popular, as LTU/Air Berlin usually has several weekly flights to Germany from Ft. Myers (RSW).


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17445 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4781 times:



Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 4):
this will kill the First Class on this route as the FRA based 346ers have only a 2-class config, but nevertheless a smart move as demand to MCO/MIA/Florida especially in winther is very high!

I think the reality is there is no F demand to MCO, and a huge back cabin is more important



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4635 times:

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 3):
Very interesting development, especially taking into account that MCO is usually unfairly bashed as a low yielding destination.

It just supports the theory.

Some (the majority?) of A340-600s in Lufthansa has no First Class cabin, and is configured in a high density configuration, better suited to a market like Orlando with little premium demand. It also helps keep F seats consistent to Florida, because they are removing 8 F seats from Orlando and adding 8 F seats to Miami.

If I'm not mistaken - and I might be - the FRA-based A340-600s are the ones with no F, while the Munich-based A340-600s do have an F cabin.

[Edited 2008-07-11 08:44:26]


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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4616 times:



Quoting SQ325 (Reply 6):
After the LH expansion at DUS increasing the capacity to Florida is just a logic step to attack the already hardly struggeling Air Berlin

Air Berlin dont serve the Orlando area



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User currently offlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1451 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4577 times:

But they recently increased Fort Meyers and they fly to MIA.
A lot of german tourists travel around FL and don' t just stay at one place.
LTU served MCO untill LH came in I think.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4572 times:



Quoting SQ325 (Reply 11):
A lot of german tourists travel around FL and don' t just stay at one place.
LTU served MCO untill LH came in I think.

LTU/airberlin ended Orlando before Lufthansa ever announced service.



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User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5497 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4548 times:

Awesome news!

Ozell you hear that?  Wink


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4372 times:



Quoting Dazed767 (Reply 13):
Ozell you hear that?

Weee!

Who needs CLT?



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User currently offlineDALCA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4327 times:

All this plus the A380 coming soon, still takes a while, to MIA means LH is taking big steps in Florida.
What's next, A380 to MCO?  Silly



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4318 times:



Quoting DALCA (Reply 15):
All this plus the A380 coming soon, still takes a while, to MIA means LH is taking big steps in Florida.

I talked to someone at MIA who said that if LH A380 deliveries work out on schedule, the A380 might be on MIA-FRA as soon as December 2009.



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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2968 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4308 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
If I'm not mistaken - and I might be - the FRA-based A340-600s are the ones with no F, while the Munich-based A340-600s do have an F cabin.

correct  checkmark 

Quoting DALCA (Reply 15):
What's next, A380 to MCO?

I guess they go step-by-step, so the next upgrade would be a 747 Big grin


User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4033 times:

the A346s, also the FRA ones, either already in the process of being reconfigured to now include the F cabin or it will start shortly.


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User currently offlineDABVF From Germany, joined Sep 2004, 178 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3921 times:

A340-600 with F-Class:
D-AIHM, D-AIHN, D-AIHO, D-AIHP, D-AIHQ, D-AIHR, D-AIHS, D-AIHT, D-AIHU, D-AIHV

A340-600 without F-Class:
D-AIHA, D-AIHB, D-AIHC, D-AIHD, D-AIHE, D-AIHF, D-AIHH, D-AIHI, D-AIHK, D-AIHL

Current destinations:
from MUC: JFK, ORD, LAX, SFO, DEL, PVG, CLT, PEK (all flights with F-Class)
from FRA: DEN, BOS, YVR, YYZ, KIX, ICN, TLV (all flights without F-Class)

Planned destinations winter 08/09:
from MUC: JFK, LAX, SFO, DEL, HKG, SIN, PVG (all flights with F-Class)
from FRA: MCO, DEN, KIX, ICN, CPT (without F-Class), ORD (with F-Class)


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21571 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3903 times:



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 8):
I think the reality is there is no F demand to MCO, and a huge back cabin is more important

 checkmark  Makes a lot of sense this way. And, of course, having a 346 at MCO is great.

-Mir



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26950 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3858 times:

Great news. I actually keep forgetting about MCO with LH !! Glad its working for them and great to see a 346 on the route.

User currently offlineAT777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3725 times:

The A346 that is going to MCO, is that one coming from the CLT route that LH is down grading to an A333?

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 14):
Who needs CLT?

What's this supposed to mean?
 Confused

I need an A346 to see everyday! We don't get too many heavies here in CLT and it is nice to see at least 1 big one!  bouncy 

Ashley in CLT


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8671 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3678 times:

Anyone have the arrival and departure times and what runway they use?

Hunter



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User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3601 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 3):
Very interesting development, especially taking into account that MCO is usually unfairly bashed as a low yielding destination.

LH setting the stage in MCO!

Rgs,

Classifying a city as a low yielding destination isn't bashing it. Just reality. The demand for F seats to certain destinations is significantly less than the demand for Y seats and as such the airlines have to allocate seats accordingly. MCO is a perfect example of this.



greenheart
25 Lufthansa411 : In may not just be a larger demand in the back, but a larger "middle range" demand. In other words, LH 343's are configured 8-48-165. The 2 Class 346'
26 BestWestern : The C cabin on the 346 is huge - Flew Business class from KIX to FRA last year on the LH 346, and the cabin went on for ever... Downstairs toilets in
27 DTWAGENT : From a travel agent point of view. Yes Germany and any other Europe country is big in the MCO/FLL/MIA areas. That is because of the many cruise line c
28 MrBrightSide : don't know why... but flying A346 is by far the most comfortable experience in long haul flying... I am flying on any metal that is known to *A, and
29 MAH4546 : What upgrade? They are doing this so that they have more economy seats on the Orlando route, which has really struggled to fill the premium cabin.
30 MCOGVADCA : you're operating under the assumption that DTW's definition of upgrade is based solely on premium seats. Some of us would consider the increase in to
31 CitrusCritter : And remember that C class, where companies like Siemens (which has a large operation in Orlando) are likely to book their employees, is enlarged in t
32 Clipper136 : If the idea was to limit Business Class seats and increase Economy...wouldn't it be more prudent to use a 2 class A343.?? (44C 222Y) 8F and 48C to 66C
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