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EgyptAir's New Color Scheme  
User currently offlineOD-BWH From Kuwait, joined Jan 2002, 399 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 17395 times:

I watched an ad on TV where they displayed the new EgyptAir's color scheme. It's great, however, I think the publicity was not in place! I checked their website, and they mentioned nothing about this! All they did was to display the new logo with no comments.

I managed to get a tiny pic from their website.



Very nice design, though I think it's a copy of ANZ's.


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User currently offlineAirStairs From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 17257 times:

I like the design (it is really only modified from the current); but, shades of blue do not say "Egypt" to me.



AirStairs


User currently offlineDALCA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 17146 times:

The Horus on the nose looks really cool but colours up on otherwise white fuselage.

Can't wait to see it at AMS or any other airport soon.



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User currently offlineBrusselsSouth From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 628 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 17114 times:

Hi,

This has already been discussed here :

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/3931830

but the topic is now archived.

It contains a bigger picture though.

Regards
BrusselsSouth


User currently offlineN867DA From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1006 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 17090 times:

The white base + 1 color formula is getting very boring! It's not the worst thing in the world, but I'd like to see some more substance to these paint schemes. This minimalist trend is the root of some of the most monotonous color schemes in the air. In comparison to other recent schemes, this one is average. I wish they had revised the EgyptAir font; it looks very dated-to the point of clashing with the rest of the more 'progressive' color scheme.


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User currently offlineMotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3198 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 17062 times:

Yes it really is a shame that they haven't launched this new identity iteration with a well thought through media strategy and implementation plan in place to maximise the impact of it!

They should have done a huge press reveal to dovetail into their Star Alliance membership and the launch of a new era.

Looks great!!

Regards
MH



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User currently offlineMotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3198 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 17047 times:

Here's that bigger picture, tail and the logo...








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User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 17000 times:

Clean and beautiful in my opinion. To those who say blue doesn't remind them of Egypt, you need to go look at some history books  Wink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Blue

"Egyptian Blue is chemically known as Calcium copper silicate (CaCuSi4O10 or CaO·CuO·4SiO2). It is a pigment used by Egyptians for thousands of years. It is considered to be the first synthetic pigment."

It could be argued that Egypt is the reason we have blue paint  Smile



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User currently offlineAirStairs From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 16974 times:

Point taken  footinmouth 

I guess it boils down to personal preference; I think that gradient would look much more striking in a kind of red/orange/gold tone. Unfortunately not everything is up to me.  hissyfit 


AirStairs


User currently offlineCY319 From Cyprus, joined Apr 2006, 396 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 16952 times:

It looks very nice and modern.
However, I would like to see a few touches of red&black as being Egypt's national colours and a bit of gold too as being the colour of the Egyptian ancient treasures.



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User currently offlineQazar From Canada, joined May 2006, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 16910 times:

CONGRATULATIONS EGYPTAIR!!!!

Today marks the airline's official entry into the Star Alliance.. A ceremony held in Cairo and the airline's new logo appears for the first time on the Star Alliance website...

Egyptair is the 21st member of the Star Alliance.. And I'm really happy that the alliance was able to secure it as their Midlle Eastern choice. Knowing how Star Alliance likes to have more than 1 member in a relatively close geographic region, I expect another Middle Eastern carrier to join Star... and my money is on Qatar Airways.

Considering also the latest cooperation agreement taken with Lufthansa, I wouldn't be surprised to count Ethiopian Airlines as a future member. In the speech in Cairo today, Star Alliance president re-iterated the growing importance of the African continent. With Egyptair in the North and SAA in the South, Ethiopian will be a great addition to the alliance for Eastern Africa. Leaving only the Western part of the continent without a suitable representative... I can only think of Virgin Nigeria as the only possible airline fit to make the Star Alliance cut.

Star Alliance has its work cut out for it though:

1) Air India's membership in 2009 is keeping Star busy making sure all is on track.
2) The work that will be required in helping Continental Airlines break free from SkyTeam and join Star will be a long and arduous journey.
3) TAM and AirUnion are next on the list in order to fill the gap in South America and Russia

Again Congrats to MS and Welcome aboard!

Cheers to you all!


User currently offlineAirStairs From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 16876 times:



Quoting Qazar (Reply 10):
Today marks the airline's official entry into the Star Alliance

I am just curious, does Star still hold a product standard for all of its member airlines? It seems like I remember reading a while back when it was much, much smaller that an airline had to offer at least a 3-class product, and some quality controls were probably in place. With the pace that they are adding new members, have they relaxed these at all? I am not a huge Star flyer but would not want to see it become bloated or inconsistent.

To the point: how is Egyptair's product these days?


AirStairs


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8553 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 16869 times:
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Quoting Qazar (Reply 10):
Star Alliance has its work cut out for it though:

1) Air India's membership in 2009 is keeping Star busy making sure all is on track.

sorry for going OT but http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/...ance-may-take-longer_10070496.html

Air India’s integration with Star Alliance may take longer than earlier expected because of the internal dynamics and changing profile of the carrier, top officials of the 21-member interline organisation said Friday. “Air India is going through its own restructuring - its integration with Indian Airlines. So the process is much more complicated and challenging,” said Marcus Puffer, director for networking and marketing development with Star Alliance.

anyway - congrats to MS for making it into Star in what must be record time from announcement ( last October IIRC ) to full membership - always glad to add another *A option out of BRU - and , after the initial disappointment a few weeks ago I have to say that the new colour scheme has actually grown on me



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User currently offlineQazar From Canada, joined May 2006, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 16869 times:

If you were only looking at the tail, you would think it's an offshoot of a United Airlines brand... Same colours.

In airports, I'd see Egyptair's tail fitting nicely next to a United, a Continental, a JetBlue or a Lufthansa jet...

What do you think?


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8553 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 16831 times:
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Quoting AirStairs (Reply 11):
does Star still hold a product standard for all of its member airlines? It seems like I remember reading a while back when it was much, much smaller that an airline had to offer at least a 3-class product,

founder members AC and SK have both rid themselves of First class - and I am not aware that Star has ever had a 3 class requirement



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 16627 times:



Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 7):
To those who say blue doesn't remind them of Egypt, you need to go look at some history books

Egyptians might have used blue pigment for ages but fact is that the most identifiable and characteristics about Egypt is those pyramids and the golden statues of all the ancient Gods and Goddesses. This is why the old Egyptair colors gold and red are far better colors to resemble Egypt than blue. When people talk about Egypt, the first that comes to everybody's mid is the Egyptian pyramids and the golden statues and chambers of the ancient Egyptian Empire. Blue is not going to have that same effect.

Even so, the new livery is not bad.

A388


User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 16515 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 15):
Egyptians might have used blue pigment for ages but fact is that the most identifiable and characteristics about Egypt is those pyramids and the golden statues of all the ancient Gods and Goddesses. This is why the old Egyptair colors gold and red are far better colors to resemble Egypt than blue. When people talk about Egypt, the first that comes to everybody's mid is the Egyptian pyramids and the golden statues and chambers of the ancient Egyptian Empire. Blue is not going to have that same effect.

Good grief, the base color for the scheme is Egyptian Blue... is that not enough for you folks  Wink Seriously though, it's funny I guess how everyone's take on things is different.. when I think of Egypt I think of three colo(u)rs:

- Blue, due to old royal makeup schemes and as a reresentation of the Nile river (which was perhaps the most important thing in ancient Egypt)
- Yellow, due to gold and sand of the desert
- Black due again in large part to ancient royal makeup styles.

Red (as referenced by others) doesn't even enter my mind. Also the yellow/gold color that most folks think about may *not* be something Egyptair wants to play off of.

I for one think it's a stunning livery and I applaud them for avoiding the temptation to take the easy way out and going with some cheesy cheap looking gold scheme. I think that blue scheme is VERY moden and classy looking (despite having both colors and design elements that are 1000s of years old).

I'm especially partial to the hawk since that's my son's animal (note the alias I use  Wink  Wink  Smile )



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User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1105 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 16495 times:



Quoting AirStairs (Reply 11):
To the point: how is Egyptair's product these days?

Not all that great I hear. My parents flew MS from JFK to CAI back in November of last year in business and said that the seat was barely better than a U.S. domestic first seat and there was apparently very little legroom. They said the food was not too good at all and and that there was no alcohol on board.


User currently offlineToxtethogrady From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 16398 times:

That color scheme will look cool in Houston. So now that CO is in Star, when is Egyptair coming to Houston?

User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 16384 times:



Quoting MotorHussy (Reply 6):
Here's that bigger picture, tail and the logo...

Is it just me or does that scheme (with all the blue) resemble the Seattle Seahawks logo now?



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User currently offlineAirStairs From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 16289 times:



Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 16):
for one think it's a stunning livery and I applaud them for avoiding the temptation to take the easy way out and going with some cheesy cheap looking gold scheme. I think that blue scheme is VERY moden and classy looking (despite having both colors and design elements that are 1000s of years old).

I think the blue is great and fine, I just don't like that the ONLY two colors present are white and shades of blue. I have the same issue with the UAL livery although the tiny, tiny hint of red makes it only a bit better. To me, the white and shades of blue (esp lighter shades) alone look weak.

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 17):
Not all that great I hear. My parents flew MS from JFK to CAI back in November of last year in business and said that the seat was barely better than a U.S. domestic first seat and there was apparently very little legroom. They said the food was not too good at all and and that there was no alcohol on board.

This is why I was kind of surprised to hear about them joining. Star (at least around the time of formation) had some cachet as an alliance with superior products, especially names like LH, SQ, and NH etc. I got the impression from the marketing of a high value placed on consistency of product as well as network, benefits, etc. But as they continue to add more and more airlines, it seems that has eroded a bit. Best of luck to Egyptair though.


AirStairs


User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15837 times:



Quoting AirStairs (Reply 8):
Point taken footinmouth

I guess it boils down to personal preference; I think that gradient would look much more striking in a kind of red/orange/gold tone. Unfortunately not everything is up to me. hissyfit


AirStairs

As much as I like the "clean" "modern" appearance, I agree with you 100%. Yes blue is also associated with Egypt but I think the red/orange/gold in a modern design would shout " Egypt " more. Personal preference I guess. Everyone will have own likes/dislikes. This subject reminds me of the color scheme of the " Montu " roller coaster ride at Busch Gardens in Tampa. It is located in the area of the park known as "Egypt". The coaster's track is painted in blue but the walls of the entrance and tombs etc is gold/brown in color and there is also the beige colored sand etc.



greenheart
User currently offlineMrBrightSide From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 202 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 15163 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 14):
Quoting AirStairs (Reply 11):
does Star still hold a product standard for all of its member airlines? It seems like I remember reading a while back when it was much, much smaller that an airline had to offer at least a 3-class product,

founder members AC and SK have both rid themselves of First class - and I am not aware that Star has ever had a 3 class requirement

The story about *A having 3-class is invention of some members on this forum and it keeps repeating itself. STAR, Star Alliance or just *A has no requirements on classes offered. You could be all-economy airline and still have membership in *A if you are a strategic partner. Then again, if you are strategic partner and have all-economy seating, then *A is not exactly for you (since larger members have their smaller operators... basically, they will eat your traffic).

This is a list of airlines, separated by numbers of classes they offer - I am maybe wrong with some regional/LCC subdivisions of larger airlines (or sponsored airlines):


3-class (F, J, Y/Y+)
Air China
Air New Zealand
ANA - All Nippon Airways
Asiana Airlines
Lufthansa
Singapore Airlines
South African Airways
Swiss International Air Lines
Thai Airways International
United Airlines
US Airways (tough call, but they do have Envoy Sleeper, better than SA)">UA's F)


2-class (J, Y/Y+)
Adria Airways (sponsored by LH)
Air Canada
Austrian Airlines
Air Dolomiti (sponsored by LH)
Augsburg Airways (sponsored by LH)
Blue1 (sponsored by SK)
BMI
BMI Regional (sponsored by BMI)
Contact Air (sponsored by LH)
Croatia Airlines(sponsored by LH)
EgyptAir
EgyptAir Express
Eurowings (sponsored by LH)
Lauda Air (sponsored by OS)
LOT Polish Airlines
Lufthansa CityLine (sponsored by LH)
SA Express (Sponsored by SA)
SAS Scandinavian Airlines System
Shanghai Airlines
Spanair
TAP Portugal
Tyrolean Airways (sponsored by OS)
Turkish Airlines


1-class (Y, Y+/Y)
Air Canada Jazz
Air Nelson (Sponsored by NZ)
Air Nippon (Sponsored by ANA)
Anadolujet (LCC owned by TK - sponsored by TK)
Eagle Airways (Sponsored by NZ)
EuroLOT (sponsored by LOT)
Mount Cook Airline (Sponsored by NZ)
SunExpress (JV between LH and TK - sponsored by TK)
Portugália (LCC owned by TP)
Ted (UA)
United Express (UA)
US Airways Express (US)

Well, that's about that... it took some time to compile this list, checked seat guru plus official websites, a lot of ghost bookings... hopefully I am correct. Any error would be gladly corrected, you can PM me..  Wink



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 15046 times:



Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 16):
I for one think it's a stunning livery

In that I agree with you, the livery isn't bad. It's a good livery. It's just more of the same as there are many airline with blue and white liveries. The one thing Egyptair did wisely is keep the hawk logo big so the airline is still recognisable.

Quoting Osiris30 (Reply 16):
I'm especially partial to the hawk since that's my son's animal

Yes, I like that hawk too. This is actually what corrects the new livery in my opinion. It's not the standard blue that is nice, it's the hawk  Smile

A388


User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 14927 times:

That is a vast improvement on their current livery. You can't go wrong with the right shade of blue. It might have been nice to add a few more Egyptian type colours though.

I look forward to seeing it flying over the house.


25 LH470 : I was able to fly MS several times over the past months. Unfortunately, MS mainline still has to improve a lot in my opinion. Honestly, I don't think
26 JohnClipper : OZ does not have F/C
27 Post contains links MrBrightSide : Oh really? Well, they do have F Class on their 747, and booking LAX-ICN shows F Class cabin and seats... seatguru.com also states that Asiana has B74
28 AerorobNZ : I was going to say the same thing... Blue is the colour I instantly associate with pre-roman egypt, which is the part that most people think of when
29 SOBHI51 : Some of Egyptair planes are2-class service Others are 3class service F/J/Y
30 Osiris30 : Thank goodness I'm not the only one
31 JohnClipper : " target=_blank>http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news....html Once the 744s are gone, no FC. All 777s and A330s have Biz/Econ.
32 Ba6590 : Great looking livery, congrats to EgyptAir really looks modern.
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