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I'm Flying On Continental's 757 CLE-LGW Saturday  
User currently offlineCody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1930 posts, RR: 9
Posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

Has anyone else here flown on this as a passenger in coach yet? If you have let me know how it went. It should be interesting. I'll just pretend it's the 60's and I'm on a TWA 707.

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User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2618 times:

I've flown CO 757's transatlantic and to tell you the truth, the experience is really far from bad. For one,
the international configuration 757 in CO's fleet have
slightly more legroom as three rows have been taken
out to make room for a galley and the 757 does have
a large plane feel thanks to its powerful engines.

I wish CO would get more 767-200ER's or 767-400's
and fly those on 757 routes to Europe but really, I
don't think it is that bad. Think of it this way, you
don't have to fly through a hub and you won't have
too much of a line in customs on your return as this
is one of three scheduled international flights out of
Cleveland.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineCody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2587 times:

Thank you.......Actually I am looking forward to it. The seven-five is my favorite aircraft (besides the L1011 of course). I'll dispell the rumor of how awful a long trip on a 757 is when I return. And unfortunately I come back by way of EWR so there will be long lines I am sure in customs.

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 48
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2582 times:

I'm surprised that a 757 can do CLE-LGW nonstop!!!
What is that? About 6000 miles? What is the range of the 752?


User currently offlineDeltawolf From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

I have, its ok but i like 1st class better because there is more room and stuff.

User currently offlineGocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4335 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2548 times:

Matt D, yea, 757s can fly to London from CLE. Think of it this way, CLE-LGW is basically same as maybe JFK-SEA. That route is approx. 6000 NM.

Kevin/DCA


User currently offlineJplenny From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2516 times:

JFK-SEA = 6000NM?

Are we sure about that?

Are you sure you were not talking about 6000KM?

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Matt D, yea, 757s can fly to London from CLE. Think of it this way, CLE-LGW is basically same as maybe JFK-SEA. That route is approx. 6000 NM.


User currently offlineCVG777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1251 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2505 times:

Continental did not, according to their website, remove 3 rows of coach seating. What they did is remove one set of 3 seats to make room for a galley. A domestic 757 has 159 coach seats, and an international 757 has 156 coach seats. Both are said to have the same seat pitch, 31 in.

User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2495 times:

The 757 easily makes the CLE-LGW run. On about 5 occasions since the inception of the service, the LGW-CLE portion has had to divert to places like BOS, YYZ, YUL, because very high headwinds slowed down the aircraft, and emptied out the fuel tanks.

The 767-200, which only holds 2 more total customers than the 757-200 (16-156 for the 752 vs. 25-149 for the 762), will eventually go on the route, but only if/when the parallel runway project is completed.


User currently offlineNavion From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1010 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2489 times:

CLE to LGW is 3274 n.m. The 752ER is fully capable of this which is pretty obvious considering CO is regularly flying this route with the 752. For what it's worth, SEA-LGW is 4198 n.m. Hope this helps.

User currently offlineNavion From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1010 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2473 times:

I've noticed another error in an earlier post on this topic. The distance from JFK to SEA is nowhere near 6,000 n.m.!! The actual distance from JFK to SEA is 2,104 n.m. The earlier estimate is wrong by 200%!!!

User currently offlineIahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3356 posts, RR: 42
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2462 times:
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The only difference in coach between the domestic and international 75's is the lack of seats 7abc. The bulkhead/cabnet that replaced them is not a galley unit, but the housing for the BusinessFirst PTV video system.


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User currently offlineKcle From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2420 times:

I understand that there are the two Continental flights, one CLE-LGW and the other LGW-CLE. But, what is the third international flight? Is it the Grand Bahama Island 727? If not, where does it go and what type of A/C?

User currently offlineIshky15 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 717 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

Continental also flies to Toronto and Montreal from Cleveland. On Saturdays, there is a seasonal flight to Cancun.

User currently offlineEarly Air From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 611 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2382 times:

This message is for delta worlf. JFK TO SEA IS NOT 6000 MILES. IT IS 2,421 miles. That is a huge difference. That is a 4 hour and 30 minute flight. 6000 miles is still rediclous for CLE-LHR. CLE to LHR is about 3,600 miles, that is still far from 6,000 miles. I have flown 7 hours on a UA A320 from EWR-LAX (there was a really heave cross wnd). It was not that bad at all. Your flight will be fine, it is not that long. It would be nicer on a wide body but it wont be that bad. I do think that they should run that route with the 767-400ER. I do not like the idea of a 757 going international. But my A320 flight was not bad at all. I have been on a 19 hour non stop flight before. Mabye that had something to do with me feeling like it was not that bad.

Rgds,
Early Air


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2374 times:

Hey, hey man... I watch that 757 leave every day. Trust me, it's going non-stop or else thousands of CLE-LGW pax are lying or duped since June 1999.

redngold



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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2372 times:

It's CLE-LGW, not CLE-LHR.

redngold



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User currently offlineChe From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2366 times:

Air Canada also flys CLE-YYZ n/s with a CRJ.
CLE-LGW is definatly non-stop.
Tell us what its like when you get back.
che


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 18, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2364 times:

Multiple Continental Express flights to/from YYZ
Three Continental Express flights each to/from YUL

Continental Airlines Flight 66 = MSY-CLE-LGW

Continental Airlines Flight 67 = LGW-CLE-DFW

Continental Airlines Flight 357 = CLE-SJU (It's considered International even though it's technically still the U.S.)

Continental Airlines Flight 462 = SJU-CLE

That's the extent of CO's international flights based in Cleveland.

redngold



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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 19, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2360 times:

Cody,

If you're departing on Runway 23R, look out the right side of the plane as you're turning onto the end of the runway (there will be a fence there) and watch for the woman jumping up and down on the mound across the road.

That will be me.  Big grin

 Nuts redngold



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User currently offlineCleCo From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2358 times:

I know I should know this, but how many aircraft are used to service this route?


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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 21, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 2360 times:

I dunno -- at least two, because they run 66/67 at the same time... I haven't gotten any reg. #s off the planes. This Sat. I will try. I hope they'll be flying the 23's so I can get close enough to see the reg!

redngold



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User currently offlineCleCO From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 2352 times:

REDNGOLD, how are you, I might join you that day. If I can. I owe the mound a trip.


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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 23, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 2347 times:

Zzz... I know I'm tired, aren't you supposed to be in bed for school tomorrow?  Smile I don't know what time I'll get there on Sat., but I'm gonna have fun this weekend, we're going to spring break (staff gotta party, too...)

 Nuts redngold



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User currently offlineCody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2347 times:

OK I will look so I expect you to be there. I guess this means I need to sit on the right side of the aircraft. I actually fly into Cleveland several times this month due to my job. Normally we depart off 23R although one time we came off of one of the fives.

25 Redngold : Are you from CLE? If you're a Saab 340 f/o and you're in CLE a lot, I'm going to guess you're with Mesaba/NOrthwest. Nowadays, though, you could be wi
26 COexERJ : A 19 hour nonstop flight? ~yeah right.
27 Alpha 1 : The Usual 2-day routing of the 757-200 that goes CLE-LGW us normally something like this: Europe destination to EWR, flight 277 EWRCLE, flight 66 CLE-
28 Cody : Yes! Very good.....your second guess was anyway!
29 FraserTeasdale : I flew AMS-EWR only two months ago on a CO B757, and when I walked down to the boarding gate at Schipol, I thought this is a small aircraft ! for tran
30 Cedarjet : Any more news about CO flying 737s to Ireland? That's not a long flight, maybe 4 and a half hours from Newark to Shannon? I've done Boston to Gatwick
31 Cedarjet : Here it is: BOS-LGW 3,287 mi EWR-SNN 3,114 mi Any other airlines operating (or considering) 737s across the Atlantic?
32 Go Delta : CedarJet-BOS-LGW in under 5 hours, really? Can CO use widebodies out of CLE, the runways are small.
33 Alpha 1 : Widebodies have no problems going out of here to Europe. There have been many charters in the past nonstop CLE-Europe.
34 Go Delta : Yeah, you are right, NW lands 747's in CLE due to weather in DET but if we got bigger runways we can have more widebodies. As Delta has ATL-CVG-SLC, c
35 N766UA : Delta... what do you mean a TRUE international airport? We fly to Mexico, Europe, Canada, and the Carribean. What more do you want? Anything out of ou
36 Go Delta : I'm just saying CLE needs to grow. How about CLE-DEL, or CLE-SYD? But seriously, CLE is just an RJ hub for CO and not a TRUE hub for CO. I think it sh
37 Post contains images Kcle : Once Cleveland gets the go-ahead to expand, we probably see more widebodies. Phase 1 was suppossed to be completed last year, but because of environme
38 CleCo : KCLE, how did you get into the parking lot, the gaurd booth wouldnt even let me in. Did you do it during an exposition, when there were actually peopl
39 Kcle : This week, the Cleveland Auto Show is going on and they have free parking. I always watch the TV for activities at the IX Center with free parking. Th
40 CleCo : Kcle, thank you very much for this information. I was lookin for some more spots. Maybe I will see you there some time. How close is it to the runway?
41 Post contains images Kcle : I'm trying to upload a picture from the location. It's taking me forever, so I will try to explain. You are about 200 to 400 feet away from the taxiin
42 CleCo : Thanks, that sounds like a good place to spot, you have been to the mound near the bomber squadron, haven't you? I like it the best of all, I like it
43 N766UA : CO cannot fly to SYD or DEL. We only have a 9000 ft runway. Also, CO operates 62 gates at Cleveland.. not much less than EWR... how can you say it is
44 Go Delta : Don't get me wrong I'm from Cleveland too, and have droven :30 one way just to talk to pilots and watch planes. However, I see other cities and think
45 Redngold : Whoa, whoa guys... Let's not get into a fistfight over our city. The fact is that Continental does consider CLE an asset to it's system. CO is not goi
46 CleCo : Hey, I was looking at the COex website and it shows a picture of the new[er] 'D' concourse, in Cleveland. I can't find D1, can anyone explain this to
47 Nrlcd : Go Delta~ In your comparison of Cleveland and Minneapolis/St Paul, you said that neither city is a headquarter hub for any airlines. You are incorrect
48 Redngold : CleCO, I can tell you that I've driven by that end of Concourse D and if there is a Gate D1, it is blocked by a whole bunch of baggage trams. My guess
49 Alpha 1 : There is not Gate D-1 yet. The reason-because LSG Catering is in the way. Plans are to tear down LSG's catering facility so that planes can come out o
50 Alpha 1 : Unfortunately, Go Delta, CO does not have a plethera of widebodies like the big 4, and must use those widebodies in the most advantageous routes it ca
51 N766UA : I see. I agree that the city should get off its duff and start working. BUT... they are just a bunch or beaurocrats who think they know it all... wel
52 N766UA : what do you mean runway length is not restricting flights? A fully loaded 777 headed to asia needs a bit more than a 9,000 ft. runway. That's why UA
53 Redngold : United pulled out long before the 777 was ever considered. BTW, Phase III is tearing down the IX Center and building Rwy 6/24. redngold
54 Cle_tim : Wow, what a mess here. The usual transatlantic 757 fight. I'd come out and meet you, but I am flying up to New York for the weekend.
55 Kcle : What are the dimensions of runway 6/24? If they are not final, what would the proposed dimensions be?
56 N766UA : I know when they pulled out... but 777s arent the only widebodies in the world... they need just as much runway as any other. I am quite familiar wit
57 N766UA : I know when they pulled out... but 777s arent the only widebodies in the world... they need just as much runway as any other. I am quite familiar wit
58 Redngold : Runway 6/24 would be a commuter service runway, intended to be built through the IX Center site for proximity to Concourse D. I believe the proposed d
59 Boeing757fan : Well, today was a bad day for CO 757's. I am sure next weekend you wont have a problem. I love the 757, my favorite aircraft to photo and fly on. ESPE
60 B757FO : Well...as an AAL B757-200 First Officer, I can safely say that in coach they are cramped. Except on American! But, on Continental, I would expect the
61 Alpha 1 : Runway length is NOT the reason UA pulled out of CLE The big reasons are ORD and IAD....they simply no longer needed a hub in CLE...the other two more
62 Alpha 1 : Personally, I think Phase III would be a waste of money. I think the city of CLE wants to tear down the IX Center more to draw business to the Convent
63 N766UA : I never said it was THE reason. It was a reason. You say it was because of ORD and IAD, yes, it was. BUT they would not have to worry about those air
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