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Aloha 737-200 Replacement?  
User currently offlineKonaB777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 6 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1023 times:

Does anyone know if Aloha is planning on replacing the 737-200s they use on their inter-island routes? Those 737s are getting very old, and with Hawaiian getting brand new 717s, they are at a disadvantage. What I think they could do is buy some second hand 737-500s or get some 737-600s. They are taking delivery of some more 737-700s for the transpac routes, so shouldn't they be thinking about redoing the interisland fleet?

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User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (13 years 6 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1000 times:

I've often wondered about this myself. With the high cycle/low hours ratios combined with the humid and salty air those planes fly though, how have they managed to stay intact?

User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3192 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (13 years 6 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 997 times:

They are. But in my opinion, the 737 or A320 family are not going to be good solutions for the interisland fleet. True the 737-600 would have a lot in common with the 737-700s, but the costs of operating them in the interisland market, as aircraft designed for longer flights than exist within Hawaii, would put them at a serious disadvantage to Hawaiian, with 717s designed for short flights.

I have heard that Aloha has been in discussions with BAE Systems for the Avro RJX 100, and they are also going to me monitoring Hawaiian's success with the 717. I suspect the final decision will be one of these two aircraft.

David


User currently offlineKonaB777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 971 times:

I believe that the chance of Aloha getting the RJX are next to nothing, because though the 717 isn't a 737, it is still a Boeing.

But, what about acquiring second hand 737-500s?


User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3192 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (13 years 6 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 960 times:

The 737-500 is a possibility, but also will have questionable economics. It was the longest-range member of the 2nd generation 737 (300/400/500) family. Add to that trying to market our "new used" 737-500s versus Hawaiian's "factory fresh" 717-200s. New airplanes are pretty certain.

And I don't consider the chances of the Avro RJ-X "next to nothing". Flight International reports that Aloha has been in discussions with BAE Systems for up to 24 RJ-Xs. It is particularily interested in the Quick-Change option to allow rapid conversion to a frieghter configuration for Aloha's overnight cargo operations. Industry observers suggest that Aloha is considered a lead contender for an RJ-X order.

The article also mentions that Aloha is studying the 717. And the other airline mentioned as considering an RJ-X order is British European, which since the article was published has in fact announced an order.

David


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