Moderators From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 517 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 14171 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW FORUM MODERATOR
The much awaited 2008 Farnborough International Airshow is upon us and we have decided it would be appropriate to run 3 A.net Official threads on the major LoI / MoU / Order announcements made by Airbus, Boeing and other Manufacturers.
You can find the official 2008 Farnborough International details at the following link
This thread is for announcements from other Manufacturers in relation to orders, these include but are not limited to Bombardier, Embraer, ATR and Sukhoi etc below are links to the Homepage of each of the relevent OEMS.
Additionally, we realise that many Military Contracts may be announced. We ask that those be posted in our Military Aviation & Space Forum as a lot of Military activity takes place at this event.
The purpose of these threads is to keep a daily tabulation on any announcements made and to keep seperate each companies announcements. Though we understand there will be split orders, having the official threads should make it a lot easier to track orders for each OEM and make for a good reference for the future of the site.
We do realise that there will / may be major orders announced given recent speculation and some media reports. Therefore, if an order is announced and listed here, by say a New A380 / 747-8 Operator, a Major A350 / B787 Commitment or by a carrier of regional or strategic importance, it should be entitled to it's own seperate thread. We ask that order be posted here with a link to the relevent thread and a link back to this thread, that way a free and open discussion can be had on the relevent carrier and order, without overwhelming the official threads.
In this case if Bombardier were to progress with the CSeries it certainly warrants it's own thread
Some Engine orders and developments may suit that Forum as we will not be running an Engine Order thread and ask that the membership
Any enquiries please direct to email@example.com on behalf of the Moderating Crew we thank you for your assistance. It's a good week for aviation, let's make it a good week for the Forum. We've run these threads for Le Bourget 2007 and Dubai 2007 and we'd like to continue with Farnborough 2008
[Edited 2008-07-13 00:36:34]
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A progressive move by Bombardier and it'll be of note to see how they go in the segment they target, interesting also to see who else they have lined up as potential launch customers. Lufthansa as a cornerstone commitment is a good start.
SPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2406 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12177 times:
Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 6): Well, I see your point, but I will stick to the rules set by the moderators:
Not criticizing the moderators or yourself.
I've seen the CRJ and Embraer 35 to 70 seaters referred to as regional jets in the US market for several years. They are derivatives of business jets, morphed into mini airliners, and so were not designed from the beginning for what they do, and it shows.
The newer Ejets and the C series have been designed from the start to be airline equipment. For that reason I think the regional jet moniker is miss-leading.
I'm not alluding to or suggesting anything negative with the thread name or it's purpose. Segregating the subject into specific threads will keep the subject focused. Seems a good idea to me. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I don't understand everything I don't know about this.
Skibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 11966 times:
Maybe the moderators should split the threads a little more. One for narrow-body orders, which would cover the EJets and C Series, as well as A & B narrowbodies. Even within A&B, the narrowbody and widebody businesses are very distinct, with the dollar value being heavily weighted with widebodies. Then for Regional Aircraft, which would include the traditional Barbie Jet (CRJs) and JungleJets (ERJs), as well as the turboprops like the Q Series.
ENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8992 times:
Not an order, but some related news:
Quote: French-Italian regional turboprop manufacturer Avions de Transport Régional (ATR) is considering a new aircraft to complement its 46/50 passenger ATR 42 and 68/74-seat ATR 72 regional turboprop aircraft. CEO Stéphane Mayer confirmed that the airframer is studying a larger turboprop, probably to seat between 90 and 100 seats, and options including a two- or three-member family. “A stretch [of today’s ATR 72] is not a solution,” he said.
The company is “contemplating a larger, new-generation aircraft with the same capabilities as the new ATR 72-600 with lower emissions, [better] comfort, [more] concern for the environment and [better] cost-effectiveness, compared to similar-range turboprops and jets,” Mayer told AIN. “This could be in the 70- to 90-seat range or even up to 98 or 99.”
The new ATR family–two or three aircraft depending on the market–must represent a “real breakthrough” in technology and cost to the customer, Mayer added. The fuel bill is growing, he said, even for ATRs, but turboprops remain the most economic aircraft. “The big question is how the planet can afford air transport,” said Mayer. He could offer no explicit information about a potential engine, cost or a time frame, however.
“The main question is whether the 50-seater is still viable,” he said, alluding to the clear downward trend for turboprops of 50 seats and under that has taken hold.
More competition for the RJ's and especially the Dash 8-Q400!
ENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8109 times:
Quoting ENU (Reply 17): Can we expect any order for Embraer?
"Brazil's Embraer unveiled orders for 22 of its 190 aircraft and options on 20 more: Aeromexico orders 12 190 aircraft and takes 15 options; Saudi low-cost carrier orders five 190 aircraft; and Niki Lauda's Niki orders five 190 aircraft with five options."
"Russia may launch a joint venture with China to continue the development of a new passenger airliner, MS-21, the head of a Russian state-run aviation corporation said on Monday.
"We will come to a decision with Chinese manufacturers next year on the possibility of setting up a joint venture to design a new mid-range passenger aircraft, MS-21," Alexei Fyodorov, the CEO of the United Aircraft Building Corporation, said at the Farnborough-2008 air show in Britain. "
BestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 8667 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7758 times:
Dont Forget ATR
Speaking at a press conference today, ATR chief executive Stephane Mayer revealed orders for single ATR 42-500s from scheduled carrier Air Saint Pierre – based on the French overseas territory of Saint-Pierre and Miquelon - and Italian coast guard Capitania del Porto. He also announced an order for two ATR 72-500s from an undisclosed customer.