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Aviation In Chile 2008  
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

Some statistics on the Chilean aviation market to start the topic:

International

In 2008 Jan-May air pax traffic increased 5% with a total of 2.2 million pax and the major international destinations so far were as follows:

1. EZE 20%
2. GRU 12%
3. LIM 8%
4. MAD 7%
5. MIA 6%
6. GIG 4%
7. MEX 3%
8. CDG 2.5%

The following international destination showed the strongest growth:

1. GYE +80%
2. ZRH +50%
3. FLN +50%
4. LAX +40%
5. EZE +40%
6. YYZ +35%
7. CDG +33%

Airlines which showed strongest growth:

1. TACA +1,600%
2. LAN Peru +110%
3. Air Comet +106%
4. Air Canada +70%
5. Swiss +56%
6. Avianca +32%
7. Air France +30%

Regarding specific ailrines, GOL has a market share of 0.5% for SCL-GRU, 12% for SCL-EZE, 7% for SCL-LIM, and 1% for SCL-GIG. Air Comet has a market share of 10% for SCL-MAD. Varig has a market share of 13% for SCL-GRU.


Domestic

Top domestic routes:

1. SCL-Antofagasta 12%
2. SCL-Concepcion 10%
3. SCL-Puerto Montt 10%
4. SCL-Iquiqui 9%
5. SCL-Calama 8%
6. SCL-Punta Arenas 7%
7. SCL-Temuco 6%

In the domestic market, LA has a total market share of 72%, while Sky Servcice had 16% and Air Comet 11%.

Cargo

Top cargo routes:

1. SCL-MIA
2. SCL-GRU
3. SCL-EZE
4. IQQ-MIA
5. SCL-MAD
6. SCL-LIMA
7. SCL-ATL

Top cargo routes in terms of growth

1. SCL-ATL +210%
2. SCL-GIG +60%
3. SCL-SYD +52%
4. SCL-FRA +50%
5. SCL-LIM +25%

Rgs,

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User currently offlineAvion660 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

I have a different question for our Chilean friends... is there much discussion about general aviation/ smaller airline safety in Chile at the moment?

I have noticed quite a few unfortunate (unconnected) incidents this year.. crash near Tobalaba in Santiago and two or three crashes in the south of Chile (one FaCh, the other two small commercial outfits).

Has this level of events always been happening in the background to the excellent records of the larger operators... LAN/ Ladeco/ Avant/ Sky/ National/ AdelSur etc etc but not been so widely reported? Or is this something new... increasing local traffic and more incidents?


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8752 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2466 times:
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Quoting Avion660 (Reply 1):

The Chilean winter, along with the Andes, creates severe fog conditions in certain areas of Chile.


User currently onlineHBIHLtoEZE From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 281 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

Hi,

when I passed through SCL two weeks ago I noticed a whole bunch of inactive 737-200s. I am aware that LA phased their last chanchitas out this year.

What about Sky Airline and Air Comet? Has Sky Airline decided to park their 737-200s, too, and acquire more -300s? Is Air Comet getting any A320s?


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User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4391 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2440 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Thread starter):
Airlines which showed strongest growth:

1. TACA +1,600%

It's amazing how TA hasn't yet announced its second-daily frequency into LIM-SCL.
Probably, this situation will turn once the airline starts to take delivery of their new fleet of E90s.
I'm not necessarily implying that the E90 is the suitable airplane in such route.  Wink




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Quoting Hardiwv (Thread starter):
GOL has a market share of 0.5% for SCL-GRU

The low record on it could be sustained in its complicate schedule allocation because G3 is operating LIM-SCL-EZE-GRU-GIG and it looks like totally unappealing compared with the dedicated services into SCL-GRU offered by either LX, LAN system and TAM.

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineRJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1944 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2402 times:



Quoting Avion660 (Reply 1):
is there much discussion about general aviation/ smaller airline safety in Chile at the moment?

I have noticed quite a few unfortunate (unconnected) incidents this year.. crash near Tobalaba in Santiago and two or three crashes in the south of Chile (one FaCh, the other two small commercial outfits).

Only connected by the media. The situation is normal also with the safety. It's only a tragic coincidence. The safety in Chile is one of the best certified with the most important organization of aviation.

Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 3):
What about Sky Airline and Air Comet?

Both companies are in troubles. Sky Airline has a complicated financial situation since many years. They have 11 B737-200, including one 737-200F (ex LAN CC-CDB), but they only operates 6 aircrafts. The other planes are parked at SCL. Recently they retired the CC-CTX because "higher costs".

Sky Airline now is dedicated to increase its operations, specially in the North of Chile, offering charter flights to Argentina from Iquique in alliance with the Argentinian company Andes Lineas Aereas. Also they will stablish an alliance with the Peruvian carrier Aerocondor with the intention to help them and start in a near future flights to Lima and other Peruvians cities

Air Comet Chile are waiting the future of Marsans Group in Aerolineas Argentinas. Today announced that they will be drop two destination: Balmaceda and Temuco and probably they return 2 aircrafts CC-CSK and CC-CSW both ex Aerolineas Argentinas and Austral. Coincidence? I think not.

Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 3):
Is Air Comet getting any A320s?

Considering the situation about the Marsans Group in South America, its probably that the aicrafts never come to Chile. Until today Marsans has not confirmed its MOU for more Airbuses.

Saludos,


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4391 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2396 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Thread starter):
Airlines which showed strongest growth:

1. TACA 1,600%

Analyzing carefully the information, the exorbitant increase for the numbers on TA seems like a huge amount of new traffic-share that doesn't match the invariable 7x weekly frequencies for TA LIM-SCL.
An 160% makes more sense on that and it also justifies the possible addition of frequencies in this valuable route.
I would expect a new entire daylight operation for TA SCL-LIM as they're currently doing in deep South America, specifically on both TA LIM-GRU and TA LIM-EZE.

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2321 times:



Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 4):
The low record on it could be sustained in its complicate schedule allocation because G3 is operating LIM-SCL-EZE-GRU-GIG and it looks like totally unappealing compared with the dedicated services into SCL-GRU offered by either LX, LAN system and TAM

You have to note that Varig took over GOL's daily nonstop GRU-SCL. RG (which is a full subsidiary of GOL) is now operating GRU-SCL nonstop with the B763 and has 13% market share of this route. However, you can expect RG market share to drop as it will replace the B762 with the B738 in this route.

TAM, by contrast, will increase its market share GRU-SCL because in August it will replace the A330 with the B77W boosting capacity in the route. TAM cannot increase frequencies because all frequencies under the bilateral are used. It is known that TAM would like to operate an additional GRU-SCL evening departure which is not possible because of bilateral constraints.

SCL will be the launching route of TAM B77W, alongside FRA and LHR.

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 4):
It's amazing how TA hasn't yet announced its second-daily frequency into LIM-SCL.

Indeed, I would expect TA to operate double daily SCL-LIM.

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 6):
I would expect a new entire daylight operation for TA SCL-LIM as they're currently doing in deep South America, specifically on both TA LIM-GRU and TA LIM-EZE.

Also include TA LIM-GIG nonstop.

Rgs,


User currently offlineAvion660 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2300 times:

TAM are certainly looking agrgessively at the Chilean market. I was starting to book my father a business class return in October/ November from LHR to SCL... got prices back of £2085 ($4065) return..... way, way better than AF, LA, IB, LX. My preference had been AF because of the best time conection, but via GRU the connections are good too.

User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2282 times:



Quoting Avion660 (Reply 8):
TAM are certainly looking agrgessively at the Chilean market.

TAM is very aggressive in Chile, it cannot increase frequencies because of restrinctions in the bilateral which will soon be renegotiated. As I mentioned, TAM will deploy the B77W daily to SCL starting August 2008, alongside with FRA and LHR daily. TAM will receive 4 x B77Ws in July brand new from Boeing. TAM's B77W (370 pax in 3 classes) will be the biggest plane operating in Chile!  Smile

Rgs,


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8752 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2277 times:
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Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 9):
TAM's B77W (370 pax in 3 classes) will be the biggest plane operating in Chile!  

You mean Iberia's A-340-600.


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2269 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 10):
You mean Iberia's A-340-600.

No. TAM B77W is bigger. IB A346 seats 352 pax in 2 classes while TA B77W seats 370 pax in 3 classes.

Rgs,


User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3146 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2264 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 11):
No. TAM B77W is bigger. IB A346 seats 352 pax in 2 classes while TA B77W seats 370 pax in 3 classes.

Well, that's in pax capacity. Size wise, the A340-600 is bigger than the 777-300/ER.

Saludos.  Smile



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8752 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2255 times:
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Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 12):
Size wise, the A340-600 is bigger than the 777-300/ER.

She's HUGE!!! What ever happened to the A-340-600 in Quito?


User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3146 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2252 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 13):
She's HUGE!!! What ever happened to the A-340-600 in Quito?

Written off, IIRC.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 7):
B763 and has 13% market share of this route. However, you can expect RG market share to drop as it will replace the B762

Which is the aircraft that's operating SCL from GRU for RG? 767-300/ER or 767-200/ER? Or is it a mix of both? And the 767-200/ER will be replaced to make a 763-738 mix?

Thanks Hardi!

Saludos.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8752 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2250 times:
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Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 14):
Written off, IIRC.

Of course, but has she been completely dismantled and removed from UIO?


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2248 times:



Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 12):
Well, that's in pax capacity. Size wise, the A340-600 is bigger than the 777-300/ER.

Thanks, Gaston. Lets see:

Length
A346: 75.3 m
B773: 73.9 m
WingSpan
A346: 63.45 m
B77W: 60.9 m

Rgs,


User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3146 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2244 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 16):
Length
A346: 75.3 m
B773: 73.9 m
WingSpan
A346: 63.45 m
B77W: 60.9 m

Rgs,

Thanks Hardi.

I'm intrigued as to why is JJ deploying the 77W to SCL. Is it for training? IIRC, JJ (with PZ) has almost (if not) 2 daily flights, one with A320/F100 and the other one with A330.

Could you clear that up for me?

Thanks!



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2238 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 16):
Which is the aircraft that's operating SCL from GRU for RG? 767-300/ER or 767-200/ER? Or is it a mix of both? And the 767-200/ER will be replaced to make a 763-738 mix?

767-300ER and will be replace with B738 in August as all RG B767 will be phased out [the irony is that TAM will received 2 B767-300ER in August]. RG recently changed the route of its GRU-SCL which now operates GIG-GRU-SCL.

Rgs,


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2228 times:



Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 17):
I'm intrigued as to why is JJ deploying the 77W to SCL. Is it for training? IIRC, JJ (with PZ) has almost (if not) 2 daily flights, one with A320/F100 and the other one with A330.

Could you clear that up for me?

TAM flights to SCL, which is one of the best performing routes in TAM network, are always fully booked and the airline cannot increase frequencies to SCL because all are used under the bilateral. Note that LAN uses all frequencies Chilean frequencies (21 weekly), while the Brazilian frequencies are split among TAM (7), GOL (7) and VARIG (7). TAM wanted to operate GRU-SCL evening but was not allowed.

The B77W will therefore replace the TAM-operated A330 in SCL and increase capacity wihthout compromising on frequencies. It is not a training flight as it is expected to operate the B77W to SCL year-around.

You are right, PZ also operates ASU-SCL, which is now flown with the A320 which last month replaced the F100 [PZ phased out all F-100s]. However, the route changed and is now operated ASU-AGP-SCL. PZ also operates SCL-ASU in full codeshare with LAN.

Rgs,


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4391 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2217 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 7):
Also include TA LIM-GIG nonstop.

Yes, the route is linking deep South America, but it runs 4x weekly for the time being.
My last point was rather focusing in those legs that support the double-daily service on TA out of LIM towards far South America, such as: TA LIM-EZE and TA LIM-GRU.
Probably, we will see TA LIM-SCL 14x weekly prior to TA LIM-GIG 14x weekly.

Regards.



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User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3146 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2202 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 19):
TAM flights to SCL, which is one of the best performing routes in TAM network, are always fully booked and the airline cannot increase frequencies to SCL because all are used under the bilateral. Note that LAN uses all frequencies Chilean frequencies (21 weekly), while the Brazilian frequencies are split among TAM (7), GOL (7) and VARIG (7). TAM wanted to operate GRU-SCL evening but was not allowed.

Ah, beautiful. I didn't know about the bilateral. Seems a logical move by TAM then, thanks Hardi!



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11416 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2188 times:
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Quoting Hardiwv (Thread starter):
Some statistics on the Chilean aviation market to start the topic:

Thanks for the very interesting post.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 7):
It is known that TAM would like to operate an additional GRU-SCL evening departure which is not possible because of bilateral constraints.



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 9):
TAM is very aggressive in Chile, it cannot increase frequencies because of restrinctions in the bilateral which will soon be renegotiated



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 19):
while the Brazilian frequencies are split among TAM (7), GOL (7) and VARIG (7). TAM wanted to operate GRU-SCL evening but was not allowed

Hardi, only Varig (7) and TAM(7) currently flies to SCL with non-restrictive (ex-Fortaleza Agreement) frequencies. There are 7 available frequencies as RG use to fly 14x weekly and they never resume it. The reason TAM does not introduce the 2nd flight is just because LAN already offer 4 daily flights (and provide partnership with a code-share) including a night flight GRU-SCL and GIG-SCL.
But they just need to apply for a 2nd flight with ANAC.

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 20):
Probably, we will see TA LIM-SCL 14x weekly prior to TA LIM-GIG 14x weekly.

TA and Peru Embassy in Brazil already asked for more frequencies. There are rumors that TA LIM-GIG will be daily by December and they could begin LIM-BSB or LIM-Northeast with 3/4 weekly.

Quoting Hardiwv (Thread starter):
6. GIG 4%

Only one non-stop daily flight with A320 and it seems that demands more. EZE probably has 10 times more flights, GRU 5 non-stop.



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2183 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 22):
Only one non-stop daily flight with A320 and it seems that demands more. EZE probably has 10 times more flights, GRU 5 non-stop.

Plus GIG has an impressive performance on cargo, showing the second strongest growth after SCL-ATL.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 22):
The reason TAM does not introduce the 2nd flight is just because LAN already offer 4 daily flights (and provide partnership with a code-share) including a night flight GRU-SCL and GIG-SCL.

Thanks for this importanto clarification. You are right, GOL's GIG-GRU-EZE-SCL-LIM is not operating under the Chile-Brazil bilateral.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 22):
TA and Peru Embassy in Brazil already asked for more frequencies. There are rumors that TA LIM-GIG will be daily by December and they could begin LIM-BSB or LIM-Northeast with 3/4 weekly

I would expect TA to operate GIG double daily before adding any new destination in Brazil. This would be a wise move.

Rgs,


User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2406 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2136 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Thread starter):
. EZE 20%

Amazing considering the huge price increase in tickets considering a year back. Not to fly to Buenos Aires for the weekend is getting sooo expensive. Is that also due to less capacity? few years back we has LH, AF, RG, KL all using widebodies...

Quoting Avion660 (Reply 1):
I have a different question for our Chilean friends... is there much discussion about general aviation/ smaller airline safety in Chile at the moment?



Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 3):
and acquire more -300s

Actually, the 733 that H2 was flying was just rented from Principal, but I don't think it's a strategy of modern fleets

Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 3):
Air Comet getting any A320s?

Just words...

Quoting RJ_Delta (Reply 5):
charter flights to Argentina from Iquique in alliance with the Argentinian company Andes Lineas Aereas

Any ideas how is H2 doing with this operation and Arequipa?

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 7):
in August it will replace the A330 with the B77W boosting capacity in the route



Quoting Avion660 (Reply 8):
TAM are certainly looking aggressively at the Chilean market



Quoting Avion660 (Reply 8):
preference had been AF because of the best time conection, but via GRU the connections are good too.



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 9):
TAM is very aggressive in Chile, it cannot increase frequencies because of restrinctions in the bilateral which will soon be renegotiated. As I mentioned, TAM will deploy the B77W daily to SCL

Actually, me flown JJ a couple times I can say it's a very nice product. But I still don't get how come JJ has not turned for us Chileans as a truly competitor to LA's monopoly. Try to buy a tkt SCL-GRU-Europe/USA is so complicated! and many times expensive. You get the prices en Real currency instead of USD. The web is not ment for us to use JJ as an alternative using GRU as a hub!
Besides, if you try SCL-GRU-Northern Brazil it can easily reach US800, while for the same price (and if your lucky) you can get to MIA!

I think that JJ has everything to tempt us Chilean to fly them and consider them for long haul flights, yet I don't think they make the process easy or cheaper...

Anyway, great news about the 77W!

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 19):
Note that LAN uses all frequencies Chilean frequencies (21 weekly)

I think they are still using some Ladeco frequencies and even flying under UC code. But I never realized till now that you are splitting the route in 3 airlines, while LA takes them all!



in order: 721,146,732,763,722,343,733,320,772,319,752,321,88,83,744,332,100,738, 333, 318, 77W, 78, 773 and 380
25 RJ_Delta : The Aerolinea Principal /Futura B737-300 CC-CAL was transferred to Europa in April. The aircraft will return in October to resume Aerolinea Principal
26 Avion660 : I have found this before.. London has many 'consolidator agents' and years ago we could buy SCL-LON-SCL at good prices, but this has stopped. Now usi
27 LipeGIG : Fares Chile-Brazil are always high except for a period of time just after G3 introduced their flights to SCL. RG just extended the flight GRU-SCL to
28 Hardiwv : Now TAM is part of LA monopoly as they fully codeshare between Brazil and Chile, Peru and Argentina. I think we are close to a very dangerous situati
29 SJOtoLIR : AA and DL have recently presented their respective application forms with authorities in order to exploit several stations placed in the Northeast re
30 Alianza : It has been reported that Sky is in financial trouble. How will they acquire Aerocondor in Peru ? And how would it be worth it in terms of revenue, g
31 RJ_Delta : It's true. Since two years Sky Airline has financial problems. The last year the DGAC Chile open an Investigation agains Sky Airlines because unsafe
32 LipeGIG : Yes, but they waste valuable time. AR could tried a year ago a EZE-CNF-MIA flight. This could establish AR not only on EZE-CNF but also, and mainly,
33 Gonzalo : Hi, a question for RJ Delta : When we see the first 77F flying for LAN ? I know delivery dates can change but at least we know a month/year estimate?
34 RJ_Delta : First week of March 2009. The first commercial route will be MIA-UIO-GYE-MIA-EZE-MIA. Saludos,
35 Gonzalo : Wow I didn't remember that... two questions : 1.-When you say "false technical registration of the aircrafts" means something like the Alaska Airline
36 Eastern023 : Hey. Does anyone have any information about SCL expansion plans. That airport was so crowded last year when we went. It was april, not a peak season a
37 RJ_Delta : Something like this. Do you remember the TVN report about called "Terror en los cielos" in 2007?. It was related with this. However the DGAC investig
38 Post contains links RJ_Delta : The Ministerio Obras Publicas chose to expand the airport developing a Master Plan in the next years. More information: http://envivodesdescl.blogspo
39 Gonzalo : Nop...i didn't see that program...( shame on me, my girl took all my attention that day... ) Do you know if that report is available on some place on
40 RJ_Delta : I think that the TV program is available in youtube. From December 2007 Sky Airlines has opened new flights from Iquique to Arequipa via Arica and mad
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