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Farnborough 08 Order Summary  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5759 posts, RR: 47
Posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 20053 times:

Farnborough 2008

July 14th, Commercial Aircraft Order highlights

• Bombardier launches C Series of short/medium haul aircraft with an LoI for 30 aircraft from Lufthansa
• FlyDubai orders 50 737-800 aircraft (a new order) (with ability to change to 737-900ER), will take 4 737-800 on lease from Babcock
• Etihad order 35 787-9 (previously booked) along with 10 777-300ER (also previously booked). They have also taken the following options and rights: 25 options on 787 and 10 options on 777, 10 rights on the 787 and 5 on 777.
• Saudi Arabian Airlines order 8 A330-300 from Airbus
• Niki orders 5 E190s from Embrarer
• NASAIR orders 5 E190s from Embraer
• Aeromexico orders 12 E190s from Embrarer
• Etihad order 20 A320, 25 A350 and 10 A380 from Airbus. They have taken the following options and rights: 5 A320 options, 10 A350 options, 5 A380 options; 15 A320 rights, 15 A350 rights and 5 A380 rights.

July 15th, Commercial Aircraft Order highlights
• Qatar Airways orders 4 A321 from Airbus with 2 A321 options
• Tunis Air orders 10 A320, 3 A330, and 3 A350 from Airbus
• Arik Air orders 7 737-800 (previously booked) and an LoI for 4 747-8I
• Avialeasing order 24 Sukhoi SuperJet from Sukhoi with 16 options
• Aviation Capital Partners order 23 A320 from Airbus
• DAE orders 70 A320 and 30 A350 from Airbus
• Aeroflot orders 5 A321 from Airbus
• Air China orders 15 777 and 30 737s from Boeing (both of these may have been previously booked)

Running Totals:

Airbus:
Saudi Arabian – 8 x A330-300
Etihad – 20 x A320, 25 X A350, 10 x A380
Qatar Air – 4 x A321
TunisAir – 10 x A320, 3 x A330, 3 x A350
Aviation Capital Partners – 23 x A320
Dubai Aerospace Enterprise – 70 x A320, 30 x A350
Aeroflot – 5 x A321

Airbus Total – 211

Boeing:
FlyDubai – 50 x 737-800
Etihad – 35 x 787-9 and 10 x 777-300ER
Arik Air – 7 x 737-800 and 4 x 747-8I (LoI)
Air China – 15 x 777 and 30 x 737

Boeing Total – 151

Bombardier:
Lufthansa - 30 x C130 or C110

Bombardier Total – 30

Embrarer:
NIKI – 5 x E190
NASAIR – 5 x E190
Aeromexico – 12 x E190

Embrarer Total – 22

Sukhoi:
Avialeasing – 24 x SuperJet

Sukhoi Total – 24

Show Totals – 438


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12146 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 19990 times:

Almost 440 aircraft orders, total. We are off to a good start.

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Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 19788 times:

THANKS for the Summary NYC777 !  thumbsup 

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5759 posts, RR: 47
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 19652 times:



Quoting 778NG (Reply 2):
THANKS for the Summary NYC777 !

No problem, I hope it doesn't get deleted by the moderators.



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User currently offlineAcelanzarote From Spain, joined Nov 2005, 831 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 19615 times:

Has no one ordered any ATR's or Dash8's then?
Thought these would have done well at the minute....



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User currently offlineCarls From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 19566 times:



Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
Boeing:
FlyDubai -- 50 x 737-800
Etihad -- 35 x 787-9 and 10 x 777-300ER
Arik Air -- 7 x 737-800 and 4 x 747-8I (LoI)
Air China -- 15 x 777 and 30 x 737

Boeing Total -- 151

The order form Etihad is not counting for the Show, it was previously booked as Unidentified.
So the real total for the show is: 106 for Boeing and 393 for the entire Show.


User currently offlineThebry From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19415 times:
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Quoting Carls (Reply 5):
The order form Etihad is not counting for the Show, it was previously booked as Unidentified.
So the real total for the show is: 106 for Boeing and 393 for the entire Show.

Why wouldn't it count? This is the venue the customer chose to announce the purchase.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5759 posts, RR: 47
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19411 times:



Quoting Carls (Reply 5):
The order form Etihad is not counting for the Show, it was previously booked as Unidentified.
So the real total for the show is: 106 for Boeing and 393 for the entire Show.

I'm counting all orders announced or signed at the show so my number stands.



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User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19273 times:



Quoting NYC777 (Reply 7):
I'm counting all orders announced or signed at the show so my number stands.

What your numbers provide is pure confusion, and basically does not portray the real picture.

I have no problem as long as the figures are correctly identified between a ''new'' order and a simple ''reveal'', of an existing UFO.

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21529 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19259 times:



Quoting NYC777 (Reply 7):
I'm counting all orders announced or signed at the show so my number stands.

Which does make sense in light of EY's order. Because it is quite obvious that EY wanted to save their announcement for the airshow, and it is simply a difference in the way Airbus and Boeing count such orders that creates this disconnect.

Boeing lists them as UFO, Airbus keeps them private until the PR event. Airbus doesn't generally list UFOs. They have an undisclosed column, but it is rarely used. This is how they work the airshow circuit for a week of press each year, and the EY order makes that clear.

Which doesn't change the fact that Airbus is "winning" the year.  Smile



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5759 posts, RR: 47
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19258 times:



Quoting WINGS (Reply 8):
I have no problem as long as the figures are correctly identified between a ''new'' order and a simple ''reveal'', of an existing UFO.

If you read the entire post you'll see that I have done that.



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User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3509 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19212 times:

Etihad and China are previously booked UFOs not new orders.

User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19167 times:



Quoting NYC777 (Reply 10):

If you read the entire post you'll see that I have done that.

You did not separate them for the grand total.

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
Airbus:
Saudi Arabian -- 8 x A330-300
Etihad -- 20 x A320, 25 X A350, 10 x A380
Qatar Air -- 4 x A321
TunisAir -- 10 x A320, 3 x A330, 3 x A350
Aviation Capital Partners -- 23 x A320
Dubai Aerospace Enterprise -- 70 x A320, 30 x A350
Aeroflot -- 5 x A321

Airbus Total -- 211

Boeing:
FlyDubai -- 50 x 737-800
Etihad -- 35 x 787-9 and 10 x 777-300ER
Arik Air -- 7 x 737-800 and 4 x 747-8I (LoI)
Air China -- 15 x 777 and 30 x 737

Boeing Total -- 151




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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5759 posts, RR: 47
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19171 times:

Here's the cumulative summary including yesterday's action:

Farnborough 2008

July 14th, Commercial Aircraft Order highlights

• Bombardier launches C Series of short/medium haul aircraft with an LoI for 30 aircraft from Lufthansa
• FlyDubai orders 50 737-800 aircraft (a new order) (with ability to change to 737-900ER), will take 4 737-800 on lease from Babcock
• Etihad order 35 787-9 (previously booked) along with 10 777-300ER (also previously booked). They have also taken the following options and rights: 25 options on 787 and 10 options on 777, 10 rights on the 787 and 5 on 777.
• Saudi Arabian Airlines order 8 A330-300 from Airbus
• Niki orders 5 E190s from Embrarer
• NASAIR orders 5 E190s from Embraer
• Aeromexico orders 12 E190s from Embrarer
• Etihad order 20 A320, 25 A350 and 10 A380 from Airbus. They have taken the following options and rights: 5 A320 options, 10 A350 options, 5 A380 options; 15 A320 rights, 15 A350 rights and 5 A380 rights.

July 15th, Commercial Aircraft Order highlights
• Qatar Airways orders 4 A321 from Airbus with 2 A321 options
• Tunis Air orders 10 A320, 3 A330, and 3 A350 from Airbus
• Arik Air orders 7 737-800 (previously booked) and an LoI for 4 747-8I
• Avialeasing order 24 Sukhoi SuperJet from Sukhoi with 16 options
• Aviation Capital Partners order 23 A320 from Airbus
• DAE orders 70 A320 and 30 A350 from Airbus
• Aeroflot orders 5 A321 from Airbus
• Air China orders 15 777 and 30 737s from Boeing (both of these may have been previously booked)

Running Totals:

Airbus:
Saudi Arabian – 8 x A330-300
Etihad – 20 x A320, 25 X A350, 10 x A380
Qatar Air – 4 x A321
TunisAir – 10 x A320, 3 x A330, 3 x A350
Aviation Capital Partners – 23 x A320
Dubai Aerospace Enterprise – 70 x A320, 30 x A350
Aeroflot – 5 x A321

Airbus Total – 211

Boeing:
FlyDubai – 50 x 737-800
Etihad – 35 x 787-9 and 10 x 777-300ER
Arik Air – 7 x 737-800 and 4 x 747-8I (LoI)
Air China – 15 x 777 and 30 x 737

Boeing Total – 151

Bombardier:
Lufthansa - 30 x C130 or C110

Bombardier Total – 30

Embrarer:
NIKI – 5 x E190
NASAIR – 5 x E190
Aeromexico – 12 x E190

Embrarer Total – 22

Sukhoi:
Avialeasing – 24 x SuperJet

Sukhoi Total – 24

Show Totals – 438



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User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5582 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 19073 times:



Quoting WINGS (Reply 8):
What your numbers provide is pure confusion, and basically does not portray the real picture.

I have no problem as long as the figures are correctly identified between a ''new'' order and a simple ''reveal'', of an existing UFO.

Well, it is his thread. However, what the OP might have done is title it Farnborough 08 Announcement Summary. But does it really matter? He's just saying what's been announced at Farnborough. As Ikramerica said, Airbus is winning, so can we just play nice?

-Dave



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User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1447 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 19073 times:



Quoting WINGS (Reply 8):
What your numbers provide is pure confusion, and basically does not portray the real picture.

I have no problem as long as the figures are correctly identified between a ''new'' order and a simple ''reveal'', of an existing UFO.

Give NYC777 a break, he went out of his way to create the thread. Gee.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5759 posts, RR: 47
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 18989 times:



Quoting WINGS (Reply 12):
You did not separate them for the grand total.

Yes and I'm not going to do that.



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12566 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 18975 times:
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Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
Air China orders 15 777 and 30 737s from Boeing (both of these may have been previously booked)

It seems far from clear that this is a firm order. There's been no news from Boeing that I've seen. Do we have anything other than a report that say "Air China will buy..."?

Reuters (my emphasis):
http://uk.reuters.com/article/tnBasi...ndustries-SP/idUKSHA19960520080715

Quote:
Flag carrier Air China said on Tuesday it would buy 15 Boeing 777 airplanes and 30 Boeing 737s in one of the biggest plane orders by a Chinese carrier.

I'm not disputing that they will buy the planes, just seeking clarification on the "order" status. The wording of the Reuters article suggests this is only an MOU/LOI at present.

Since this "order" was announced in Shanghai, does it actually count as a "Farnborough order"?  scratchchin 



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7063 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 18963 times:

How binding is a LoI ? I mainly ask because of Arik Air and the 747-8I. Would love to see some more as the 20 of LH.


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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12468 posts, RR: 37
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 18886 times:

Just looking at the Boeing press release on the FlyDubai order, the total of 737NG orders is now "over 4,800" (is there an accurate number available?); add that to the 3,132 "non-NG" 737s, i.e. the -100 through -500, and Boeing is inching very close to the 8,000 mark - a huge achievement.

http://www.boeing.com/news/feature/f...ugh08/news/2008/q3/080714a_nr.html


User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 18861 times:



Quoting Carls (Reply 5):



Quoting WINGS (Reply 8):

Which NYC777 clearly states and identifies with:



Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
Etihad order 35 787-9 (previously booked) along with 10 777-300ER (also previously booked).




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User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5582 posts, RR: 28
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 18861 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 17):
Since this "order" was announced in Shanghai, does it actually count as a "Farnborough order"?

Hmm... Good question.

Quoting Columba (Reply 18):
How binding is a LoI ? I mainly ask because of Arik Air and the 747-8I. Would love to see some more as the 20 of LH.

I would think it's a lot less binding than a firm order. At this point, I think short of a sizable (10-20) frame order from a well-established carrier (you can decide for yourselves who that might be), it's hard to see the 748i as anything other than an extremely niche aircraft.

I hope somebody steps up, and soon.

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 17):
I'm not disputing that they will buy the planes, just seeking clarification on the "order" status. The wording of the Reuters article suggests this is only an MOU/LOI at present.

It's getting harder and harder to keep things straight in this industry.

-Dave



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12566 posts, RR: 46
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 18780 times:
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Quoting Columba (Reply 18):
How binding is a LoI ?

Typically, not very. Plenty have been signed but never seen through to a firm order.

Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 15):
Give NYC777 a break, he went out of his way to create the thread. Gee.

Yes he did and he gets thanks for that, but Wings does have a valid point. In as much as a serious amount of energy is expended by several members on this site trying to keep track of "firm" and "pending" orders, numbers for Farnborough which "double count" do confuse matters.

IMHO, the simple solution would be to break the totals down to show new firm and pending orders, keeping "revealed" orders (which were previously booked) as a separate category. But, at the end of the day, this is NYC777's thread, so he can count them any way he likes.



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 18474 times:



Quoting Acelanzarote (Reply 4):
Has no one ordered any ATR's or Dash8's then?
Thought these would have done well at the minute....

Theres been a couple for ATR



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User currently offlinePlairbus From Germany, joined Feb 2008, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 18154 times:

The Air Show lloks good for both, Airbus and Boeing, but There is still nothing from Europe...

25 Humberside : No Airbus or Boeing, but Niki of Austria did order some EMB-190's
26 BAalltheway : If you're "purely" confused by that, maybe its time to lay off the smack and check back in! A little dramatic, no? Airbus is "winning" this event reg
27 Gearup : Thanks for the summary NYC777, good job! Nice to see Sukhoi moving some metal.
28 ZKEOJ : and a good one. I appreciate a summary such as this, so that I won't have to scroll through - by now 100s of - posts in the separate manufacturer thr
29 JBirdAV8r : This is a competition?
30 7gm7 : Great job NYC777! Thanks for putting this together.
31 VHECA : I concur! Thanks, and I find it easy to read for the purpose that I use it for, who bought (ordered) what! Cheers VH-ECA
32 BAalltheway : Last time I checked. Talk about judging a book by it's chapter page, 92 chapters in! (Boeing is 92 years old today I believe...Happy Birthday!) Not t
33 Plairbus : NYC777, thanks for your Info i love it!
34 7cubed : NYC777, I've been checking into this site for years and usually don't chime in but since there's some ball-busting, I'd like to say thanks for the thr
35 Post contains links OlegShv : Unconfirmed news, but a Russian source says that today Ilyushin Finance Co. (IFC) has ordered 31 Tu-204-CM-100 for Iranian and Brazilian customers wit
36 Netdhaka : Thanks and good job! I was interested in knowing the total figure without reading through the really long threads. Your post achieved that for me!
37 N1786b : Well, if your beef is about previously booked orders on the Boeing side, then we should be thorough and also ask NYC777 to mention when an order was
38 Rheinwaldner : To me it seems: What counts depends on what happens! If the Gross orders suit well they count, if the net orders suit well they count, if the vendors
39 Post contains links Scbriml : I don't have a beef, I just seek clarity. "Counting" orders that Boeing has previously booked in a "show total" is confusing. Counting firming of pre
40 Chiad : I agree with this. I am also sure that the Air China order will soon be confirmed, but if it's not confirmed during this week then it shouldn't count
41 B787 : Wow, those C130s will be uncomfortable.....
42 N1786b : Can't the same be said for Airbus and the LOI Parades in Dubai then the Firming Festivities in Farnborough? If we allow Airbus deals which have alrea
43 HAWK21M : Fantastic listing. This show has been good for Avaiation. regds MEL
44 Moo : I was going to keep quiet, but I won't - there is a huge difference between pomp and ceremony for LoI/MoUs being *firmed* and going onto the order bo
45 Scouseflyer : I'd agree with you on that one - orders being firmed are the only really true measure of orders. It makes you wonder whether Airbus operates a second
46 Scbriml : Personally, I don't think so because it's very different from the Boeing UFO scenario. Your quoted example of DAE's order is a good one - the announc
47 N1786b : Neither do I, but what is good for the goose is good for the gander. My point is that if the coming out parties for Boeing UFOs are to have an asteri
48 Rheinwaldner : As I said, people like to choose the "x-axis of the diagram" (the parameter) according the own agenda. This is Ok to me, compare anything you like. B
49 NicoEDDF : Oh dear, another Boeing vs. Airbus thread. Just don't get the simple fact, why there is discussion about orders being counted or not. If a order is in
50 CHRISBA777ER : Indeed - thanks mate - good work. " target=_blank>http://lenta.ru/news/2008/07/15/tu/ Ooooh interesting - I take it these are cargo birds? Are the CM
51 ThePRGuy : How many ATR/Dash orders have we seen and from who? A
52 Post contains links TKfan : Thank you for the listing, really great job, soooo good to be copied by a Turkish aviation site
53 Post contains links Carls : Quoting Rheinwaldner (Reply 38): The UFO orders are booked as firm orders in Boeings order book for some time. They were counted and celebrated in "Bo
54 Carls : Do you really know what the difference is between LOI / MOU and FIRM ORDER???? This seems to be too complicated.
55 Moo : Uhm, yes, do you?
56 Post contains links Carls : Quoting Moo (Reply 55): Uhm, yes, do you? Moo I misunderstood your post...........[Edited 2008-07-16 05:09:24]
57 Stitch : This whole "my aerospace manufacturer can beat up your aerospace manufacturer in orders" nonsense is getting really tiring. We go through this every b
58 CHRISBA777ER : *stands up and applauds* Here here - well said that man.
59 BlueShamu330s : Hear Hear, shurely .....? ditto
60 KrisYYZ : New order for Bombardier: 4x Q400s for Malev Hungarian Airlines. MA was expected to order some SSJs but announced that it will acquire 4 used Q400s in
61 Post contains links OlegShv : The original article I linked says it will be powered by PS-90A2. There is another news story on this now in English: http://rbcnews.com/free/2008071
62 Manfredj : I like the idea of this....clean and concise. Should become a standard for these types of posts.
63 Post contains links NYC777 : Here's an update including today's order action: You could also read it here Farnborough 2008 July 16th, Commercial Aircraft Order highlights • Mala
64 YWG747 : Looking at all the running totals I had to have a bit of a chuckle. 99% of the orders this year are from non north american airlines. What makes them
65 NYC777 : Oil money!
66 Charles79 : It's much more than that...better management, better products, a business case that actually makes sense, etc. But this is a topic that should have i
67 Moo : New markets - the north american market is pretty much fully developed, and the airlines have nowhere to expand to, while their existing market is ch
68 Col : Boeing are being very clever with their confirmation of customers! They say that the customer announces the order, not themselves. This is an airshow,
69 Post contains links Carls : Quoting NYC777 (Reply 63): Note that Aviation Capital also expressed interest in buying 10 to 15 more 787s. Let's open a thread like this " Expressed
70 DL767captain : Well when you considder that BA AF KL LH EK SQ QF etc are all really a single "Legacy Carrier" for their country. As in BA is the big airline with a
71 Jgo : How about we call them publicly confirmed orders? I doubt that Airbus and their customers have negotiated and signed all of these deals in the last w
72 Post contains links ENU : Thanks for posting. However, you can add this order, announced yesterday: Tupolev Ilyushin Finance - 31 x Tu-204SM-100 Source: http://en.rian.ru/anal
73 VHECA : Sorry for a very noob question but, who the is AMO? They are responsible for 5 Sukhoi Superjets. Are they Russion or Eastern European? And for the peo
74 Post contains images SASD209 : Agreed. I think that I (and the vast majority of a.netters) are smart enough to sort through the LOI's/MOU's/etc and can appreciate the value of this
75 Astuteman : I think "over-developed" is the phrase you're looking for.. (sadly) some of these need to be allowed to die gracefully.. Rgds
76 TS-IOR : Notice the options for 2 additional A320s and 1 extra A350 in the Tunisair's order !
77 NYC777 : Farnborough 2008 July 17th, Commercial Aircraft Order highlights • Synergy Aerospace orders 10 A350 from Airbus • Alis Aerolinee Italiane orders 5
78 Scbriml : On the Airbus side, the Qatar and Alis "orders" are not firm but currently MoU.
79 NYC777 : I'll note that for tomorrow's update. Thanks buddy!
80 DL767captain : Yes that's true, US could die and be sold off, along with possible UA. We don't need to worry about NW anymore since it looks like the merger will go
81 HAWK21M : Not much regarding orders from India....I guess the oil price rise has hit badly. regds MEL
82 FrmrCAPCADET : Ultimately the only thing that counts is deliveries. And even that can be done by frames, seats, dollars, euros. All the other counting is a little ak
83 NYC777 : Surprised that there weren't cancellations by Indian carriers though they probably won't announce order cancellations at an air show.
84 Cloudyapple : I think the significance from the Airbus orders is that half of the frames are widebodies. This is so different from how it used to be a couple of yea
85 Post contains links YVRLTN : Seems the UFO is FI according to this http://www.kommersant.com/p912847/r_529/airplane_sales/ Did Porter not exercise 2x Q400 options? http://www.bom
86 FRNT787 : I guess you meant July. Boeing booked the 737s on this years orders, so they were ordered this year. It looks as if they were ordered in May. I will
87 NYC777 : Final Summary Farnborough 2008 July 17th, Commercial Aircraft Order highlights • Synergy Aerospace orders 10 A350-800 from Airbus • Alis Aerolinee
88 LY777 : Thanks for the recap. Who is Synergy Aerospace?
89 Danny : Worth to add that Airbus had 247 NEW firm orders while Boeing had 57 NEW orders with the rest previously booked as UFOs.
90 Post contains links Scbriml : They are part of the Synergy Group. Among others, they own Avianca and OceanAir. I believe this orders is for Avianca. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S
91 DenverDanny : I wish people could show a little more maturity. Do you honestly think Airbus just walked into the room and people started swarming around them to bo
92 Danny : Obviously negotiations have been ongoing for months but the fact is Airbus added 247 orders to their book while Boeing added 57. Still all those prev
93 AirNZ : I find it interesting that you now conveniently try to re-write what a LOI/MOU is. How many times have we heard it ad nauseum on these boards that ne
94 LY777 : " target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synergy...Group Thanks for the link
95 EBJ1248650 : Just wanted to add my thanks for the very nice work you did on this. Made it really easy to keep track of orders.
96 7cubed : Good job, NYC777!!! Thanks. Your officially respected - not that you weren't before. And if you're ever in Amish country, drop me a note...I'll buy ya
97 NYC777 : Thanks buddy, becareful...I'm a heavy drinker (you need to be if you're going to be on a.net. And to all those who sent compliments...Thanks so much
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