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Epale, The Venezuelan Aviation Thread Part II.  
User currently offlineOrl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 269 posts, RR: 5
Posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 14166 times:

Epale again Anetters:
Following the first thread which got over 260 messages, and in order to save bandwidth and update the news about Venezuelan Aviation, we opened this new one.

International Carriers

Aerorepublica has finally started operations to MDE and BOG on May 24rd. Load factors are good enough to maintain both flights open (50 -60%). On the other hand Avianca dropped the F100 service to Caracas from BOG, and INAC also suspended its CLO-MDE-CCS service. At this point we do not know if this will be temporary or permanent.
American has raised its fares considerably, starting from $788 (Plus taxes) to Miami, as well as Continental and Delta. However, this does not seem to affect travelers as most of the flights during peak season (from mid July until September) are sold out.
About Latin American Carriers Taca hasn’t opened its awaited flight to GUA (which was intended to start operating in June). Mexicana surprised us with a new flight in an A318! Starting on July 1st 5X weekly (thanks Luis for the info!). It was rumored that Aeromexico would return to Caracas after 17 years, but nothing has been confirmed yet.
Air Europa will start from July 15th 2X weekly to SCQ (a usual seasonal flight given the large Galician community living in Venezuela). The rest of European carriers have not changed their schedules this far.

Domestic Carriers
The big news is the rebranding of Santa Bárbara Airlines into SB Airlines which will be the surviving airline after its merge with Aserca Airlines.

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The ATRs had not entered into service yet wearing its new c/s (The one that was ready to go was damaged while being pulled out of the hangar and is on repairs). There is at least one 757 in Miami being painted (ex China Southern) which will join SB Airlines very soon. It is rumored that SB Airlines would open EZE and GRU once they get this 3rd 757. Icelandair will operate on its behalf a 757 under ETOPS for its flights to TFN.
Aserca Airlines is waiting for the airworthiness certificate of two DC-9s which are being prepared in Barranquilla. There are two more to come in the following months. Also, Laser is intended to get two DC-9-30Fs for cargo operations, as well as open flights to Maracaibo. Aeropostal has put back in service its 2nd DC-9 2nd (YV135T), but it will be a "backup" aircraft just in case that the YV139T goes tech, and for now, it will fly 2 legs a day. Apparently, they do not seem to increase their frequencies but in a very slow pace as more DC-9s are integrated into the fleet. For now it seems that will not operate international flights.
Venezolana was going to bring its first MD-80, but apparently they won’t as this ex-Aeropostal bird was not in its best shape, so they decided not to take it. Until now, we do not certainly know if they will get another MD-80 or will continue expanding its network with 737-200s.
LTA received an airworthiness extension for its Dash 7 until November. Apparently they will bring an ATR and start operating flights to the Caribbean (POS and GND) from CCS and PMV. The Dash will be replaced with another Dash 7 stored at SVMI once its extension ends.

Well guys, this has been a summary of all the posts in the aforementioned thread. Thank you for posting guys!

Saludos,

Orl777

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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1884 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 14152 times:

So now part 1 (www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/3950842) and also part 2 (http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4038669) are both closed. [I dont know why...]

It's time to create a 3rd part of the Venezuelan A.net thread: here we go...

Aeroejecutivos

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Aeropostal - Alas de Venezuela

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Aserca Airlines

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Avior Airlines

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Conviasa

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Laser

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LTA - Linea Turistica Aereotuy

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Perla Airlines

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RAVSA Venezolana

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Rutaca Airlines

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SBA Airlines

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Vensecar Internacional

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So let's talk about the aviation scene in Venezuela...


User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1884 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 14136 times:



Quoting Viasa (Reply 1):
Perla Airlines

They stopped its operation after Costa Rica Skies has returned its single airplane to the leasing company. Also the homepage of Perla Airlines is not longer available.

It would be interesting if Perla will return to the sky or if they completely shut down its operation.

There are some rumors that SBA Airlines will buy/lease up to ten B757s.

btw: sorry I will not came to Venezuela this year. Perhaps in 2009... we will see!


User currently offlineOrl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 269 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 14128 times:



Quoting Viasa (Reply 1):
Laser

Laser will have some Charters Flight is this summer to MAR, VLN, PZO, MUN, CUR and POS the dates are not confirmed yet..

Quoting Viasa (Reply 2):
There are some rumors that SBA Airlines will buy/lease up to ten B757s

Well I don´t believe in that Rumors but let´s see Btw I saw on sunday the YV2242 operating to UIO.

Saludos


User currently offlineOrl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 269 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 14081 times:



Quoting Viasa (Reply 1):
Conviasa

The ATR-42 YV1009 is back on service along with the Boeing 737-300 YV1007.



Aeropostal - Alas de Venezuela:

Yesterday A friend from VLN told me that the YV135T is back on service.


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 14062 times:



Quoting Orl777 (Reply 4):
Aeropostal - Alas de Venezuela:

Yesterday A friend from VLN told me that the YV135T is back on service.

Correct. They now have 3 aircraft ready, but it looks like INAC only certified 2 until now. They expect to have the third back in service within the next days.
This means, that they are going to increase frequencies to PZO, PMV and MAR. They also say that they want to return to MUN and BLA.

The multi-million US$ debt with their GDS-host Sabre is now paid, which means that travel agencies can book tham again. Looks like the smal BSP debt is paid as well.
The website booking is up again as well. Finally Aeropostal is showing clear signs of a recovery.


User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1896 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 14044 times:

Roberto! Thanks for opening this second thread, it was already annoying to scroll all the way down on the previous one.

Oh well, the aviation environment seems to be getting somehow better. I was very pleased to hear the new regulation imposed by the INAC - which will ban every passenger aircraft carrying more than 20 people to be more than 25 years old (am I right with the age?). This will force almost all the airlines in the country either to renew their fleet or simply stop taking us in the skies with old pieces of can! (sorry for those grandpa lovers!)

As a consequence, I heard Aserca has a big renewal plan for their fleet (MDs) and, as we all know, SBA is going bigger on a constant basis. The rumors that Viasa mentioned above seem to be true, as they will have no less than 7 757s by the end of this year. The plan seems to be of 10 757s by mid 2009.

I've heard several negative comments on this extreme expansion from SBA... I decided to look at it from the bright side as we've not had ANY airline that could represent us internationally with the smallest amount of decence. I'm happy that they're considering on flying to EZE, GRU, MXP, FCO and BOG in the near future, and I do wish them the best, regardless of those rumors that will be useless in the end.

Tomorrow we're going to go spotting a bit, hoping to catch the incoming A318 from MEX. It will surely be a great sight.

Anyhow, bring on some Arepas and lets keep on talking about Venezuelan aviation.

Saludos!



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9894 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 14037 times:



Quoting 797 (Reply 6):
I heard Aserca has a big renewal plan for their fleet (MDs) and, as we all know

Will R7 replace their entire DC-9 fleet with MD80s? Or maybe 737s? What happened to that rumor of S3 getting 734s? Why has it never materialized? Will SBA Airlines take over the lucrative CCS-CUR-SDQ route with their 752s?

A388


User currently offlineOrl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 269 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 14021 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 7):
What happened to that rumor of S3 getting 734s?

Well No more news about, And if is truth the rumour about the 10 757 I seen Impossible to then acquire any 737...


User currently offlineClo1973 From Colombia, joined Apr 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 13959 times:



Quoting Orl777 (Thread starter):
On the other hand Avianca dropped the F100 service to Caracas from BOG, and INAC also suspended its clo-MDE-CCS service

Does someone knows if Avianca will be granted permision to resume its CLO-MDE-CCS service?..if so, when?
Thks


User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1896 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 13906 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 7):
What happened to that rumor of S3 getting 734s? Why has it never materialized?

These rumors were standing when SBA was owned by it's previous Gonzalez Yanes. Now SBA has a different owner and the plans are absolutely different. By then SBA and Aserca shared nothing else than the Venezuelan skies; they were direct competitors and the mentioned 737s were being fit on the domestic and international schedules.

Now that these two airlines are merging, this is no longer viable. SBA are getting 10 757s within a year, whereas Aserca is replacing the oldest DC9s, presumably with MD80s (this hasn't been confirmed, but there's hardly going to be a >20 year-old DC-9 available for R7.)

In the end these two airline are going to merge completely. I know many of you expect this to happen on a faster pace, but there's a big conflict with the staff of both airlines which has to be settled before they intend to merge the operational sector of their businesses.

More on that to follow.



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9894 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 13880 times:



Quoting 797 (Reply 10):
More on that to follow.

Hola 797, thank you for the explanation and information. So R7 will replace their DC-9s with MD80s but will they also use the same new combined livery of SBA Airlines? When will R7 start receiving the MD80s? There are plenty of MD80s parked in the dessert in the U.S. Maybe R7 can buy "newer" models such as the DL MD88s?

A388


User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1896 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13879 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 11):
Hola 797, thank you for the explanation and information. So R7 will replace their DC-9s with MD80s but will they also use the same new combined livery of SBA Airlines? When will R7 start receiving the MD80s? There are plenty of MD80s parked in the dessert in the U.S. Maybe R7 can buy "newer" models such as the DL MD88s?

Hola!

No problem! Well, regarding to your question, I can't tell you anything certain, it's mostly especulation... This "alliance" between S3 and R7 is not going to be that immediate because there's going to be a huge conflict of interests regarding the operational areas of both companies. I can give you an example. Just imagine those experienced DC9 pilots from Aserca looking forward on stepping over to the new 757s SBA is going to acquire and then, being blacked out by new pilots (who SBA is in desperate need of)... Same situation with the Flight Attendants.

This merger will be more complicated than it seems because bureaucracy here in Venezuela is a bit twisted.

For now it seems like Aserca will start replacing their aging DC9s with newer MD80s, but as far as an immediate change in their livery, it's rather unlikely... I'll have to dig in a bit dipper to see what I can come up with.

The expansion plan SBA has in mind need total focus on every detail that's why I think they're getting new pilots and new personnel. They cannot affor any conflicts within the airline and I see it as a wise decision. Let's see what I can find out.



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9894 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 13869 times:



Quoting 797 (Reply 12):
The expansion plan SBA has in mind need total focus on every detail that's why I think they're getting new pilots and new personnel. They cannot affor any conflicts within the airline and I see it as a wise decision. Let's see what I can find out.

Okay thank you for the information. We will await your updates in this thread  Smile

A388


User currently offlineOrl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 269 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 13860 times:

Hello

Today I went Spotting and I saw the New 757 YV304T Parked in the International ramps so maybe they will Stating to use soon on International routes...

Saludos


User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 13844 times:

About a week ago a Shorts 360 for Comeravia stopped in the Orlando area (Deland municipal airport) on delivery. It's probably in Venezuela already, UK registered:

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=&picid=4926


User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 13843 times:

Came across that picture Viasa posted of the Aeroejecutivos DC3 which was taken this year.

Is the airline operating in Venezuela at the moment?


User currently offlineOrl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 269 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13812 times:



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 16):
Is the airline operating in Venezuela at the moment?

By the moment no airline is operating any DC-3


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4545 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 13798 times:



Quoting Orl777 (Reply 17):
By the moment no airline is operating any DC-3

Just for illustrative purposes, Lineas Aereas Canedo is offering flights in Bolivia from Cochabamba to Salar de Uyuni with DC-3.
It makes flights on behalf of 5L Aerosur from Bolivia and the service is bookable onto 5L's website.

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Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1896 posts, RR: 27
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13750 times:



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 15):
About a week ago a Shorts 360 for Comeravia stopped in the Orlando area (Deland municipal airport) on delivery. It's probably in Venezuela already, UK registered:

Deland!!! I fly there all the time!

That's quite a surprise to see this plane being added to COMERAVIA. That's a charter carrier that flies to exotic destinations in Venezuela. Thanks a lot for the info, very interesting.

Here's a photo I took a while ago from this airline:

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Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1884 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 13739 times:

What's about the B732 of Sol America? Did they really start operation or is the the plane still stored?

User currently offlineOrl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 269 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 13721 times:



Quoting Viasa (Reply 20):
What's about the B732 of Sol America? Did they really start operation or is the the plane still stored?

Is still Stored in the ramp. I have no info about if their going to fly or not


User currently offlineCybergus From Venezuela, joined Mar 2006, 508 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 13695 times:

Some photos of the new scheme of SBA on the ATR'S







In adition from the other thread here is the complete schedule for the new flights to and from MIA

S3 1517 MAR 0600-0930 MIA 757 xSa
S3 1518 MIA 1100-1330 VLN 757 xSa
S3 1519 VLN 1430-1800 MIA 757 xSa
S3 1520 MIA 1650-2010 MAR 757 xSa

Tavo



LAN Excellence in Flight
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9894 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13684 times:



Quoting Cybergus (Reply 22):
Some photos of the new scheme of SBA on the ATR'S

The new livery is good but those red wings are awesome. I don't know why they decided to paint the wings red too. One thing is sure, those red wings do get the attention and it does distinguish them from all other airlines. If someone sees the aircraft at cruise altitude they will still notice those red wings and say: "That's SBA Airlines". In that SBA Airlines has done a good job but it is not the best choice in my opinion.

A388


User currently offlineOrl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 269 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13684 times:



Quoting Cybergus (Reply 22):
S3 1517 MAR 0600-0930 MIA 757 xSa
S3 1518 MIA 1100-1330 VLN 757 xSa
S3 1519 VLN 1430-1800 MIA 757 xSa
S3 1520 MIA 1650-2010 MAR 757 xSa

So they will use 2 Planes for this route? Bacause if the VLN-MIA Arrives at 1800 is imposible for that Plane to Depart at 1650 to MAR...


25 Cybergus : Sorry my mistake: S3 1520 MIA-MAR 19:30-22:00 Now the plane rotation is clear. Tavo
26 RCS763AV : Why did this happen? Do you know who is doing the maintenance? What would they use 10 757s on?
27 A388 : As per 797's post SBA Airlines is looking at starting flights to EZE, GRU and BOG. They currently fly to UIO and MIA with the 757s they have now. 757
28 RCS763AV : Those routes could all be flown with 6 757s. 1 tu EZE, 2 to MIA, 1 to GRU, 2 to LIM/UIO/BOG, 1 to TFN, which doesn´t have many rotations, so it coul
29 A388 : Okay point taken. What we need to ask ourselves is what does SBA Airlines have in mind for expansion in the coming years. Can they use 10 757s? With
30 797 : Alright these are a bunch of ideas that make a lot of sense to me as well, but we cannot forget the situation Venezuela is living under. These 10 757s
31 A388 : That is correct but the fact of AA downgrading to a 738 has more to so with the financial crisis AA is anticipating and not necessarily the route its
32 Luisde8cd : My friend Enrique, I have to disagree with you here. Most Venezuela-US market is concentrated in South Florida. I can only imagine empty planes if S3
33 Cybergus : I know this is not relevant, but I had the pleasure of listening the new song theme of SBA Airlines that will be used in the commercials and is very c
34 A388 : This is also what I was thinking. SBA Airlines can makes more South and Central American routes work making the need for those 10 757s even more impo
35 Luisde8cd : Regretfully, Im sure that operating a 757 for a short hop CCS-CUR will simply kill the yields for that flight, plus it will add more cycles to the ai
36 Gonzalo : A couple of questions to you guys in Venezuela, not related with SBA btw 1.-According to the latest news here both carriers LA from Chile and AR from
37 Cybergus : Hi Gonzalo!. Yes the route is still operative, but not with IR equipment. The route is now in hands of V0 (Conviasa) with an A340-200. The flight is
38 797 : Yeah Luis, you're absolutely right. I was making reference to A388's question regarding a potential American expansion. I see more plausible the idea
39 Orl777 : Hey Gonzalo, Yes Will Start using the 735 the next week till September when the A310 is back on the EZE-CCS-EZE Route
40 A388 : Wow that must be one of the longest routes for a 735. You are corect, I know deep inside myself that such a route will not happen but who knows My th
41 Gonzalo : Hi Cybergus, many thanks for your information. I have never been in Syria, so i can't talk about the places to know they have, but i doubt all the pa
42 Orl777 : Hey you´re right I´m just check again and now shows a 735 Flight in Different Schedules Departing EZE 8:15AM Arriving CCS at 15:05, Later Leaving C
43 SJOtoLIR : CM PTY-CCS and vice versa is operating 2x daily nowadays. They will initiate the third daily-frequency on August 11th: CM 224........PTY 10:05.......
44 A388 : That is one flight I wouldn't mind missing, going all the way to EZE on a 735, wow. I would have preferred the A313. Does AV offer good connecting po
45 Avianca : didnt they used some years ago a MD-88 on the same route...? well as per my understanding, we have a bigger sirian community here in Venezuela... and
46 A388 : Thank you very much for that information Avianca! I always thought AV would have lower fares compared to other airlines so they can better compete an
47 MIAMIx707 : You fly there all the time, from.. Venezuela?? I went there to see if I saw the Comeravia plane but it had already left. Man, there's only a few smal
48 RCS763AV : Indeed, the colombian-argentinian bilateral is hurting AV as their prices are so high that they are becoming unattractive for connections. They can´
49 A388 : Hmm okay. I hope they can offer me a very competitive price CUR-BOG-MIA on their A332 somewhere next year! A388
50 Avianca : couldnt agree more RCS! well y think AV is still the cheapest option to LIM from CCS but still arround 1000 USD return... not a South American destin
51 797 : I live in DAB, and am flying as well... Deland is one of the airports my school uses to practice, it's less than 7 minutes away from our base.
52 Chiguire : Here the published SBA schedule for MIA: CCS-MIA 06:00-08:45 CCS-MIA 15:30-18:10 xSa VLN-MIA 14:30-18:00 xSa MIA-CCS 10:15-14:00 MIA-CCS 19:45-23:30 M
53 Orl777 : Hello. A Friend from VLN talked to me today and said that VH will start the VLN-MIA tomorrow.. August 5th.. Can anyone confirm? what aircraft will the
54 Chiguire : They will not start tomorrow. There is something planned for Aug 15th, but I doubt it will work out. The aircraft planned is a 737-800 - don't ask we
55 SJOtoLIR : I did make a quick research at amadeus.net. It states that SBA will initiate their services into VLN-MIA on August 11th with 752. Regards.
56 Rleiro : Epale Guys: Some news from what we (ORL_777 and me) spotted this weekend at SVMI: - There's a leased A310 from Jordan Aviation flying on behalf of Con
57 Orl777 : The Correct Registration is N816PG.. in other news AR is operating the flight with the 735 with a tech stop in VVI. Saludos
58 Post contains images Rleiro : Ooops. My mistake  Saludos, Roberto.[Edited 2008-08-05 10:44:56]
59 Viasa : On MyAv.net I see a picture of the Sol America B737. It looks like this start flying. Are there more news about this operations?
60 Rleiro : INAC hasn't given the due airworthiness certification to Sol de America due to Technical Issues with this 737-200. It has been parked for a while at
61 MAH4546 : Aeropostal is planning MIA-VLN daily starting in September. Venezolana has also expressed interest in flying MIA-CCS/MAR and has had talks with MIA o
62 Rleiro : Aeropostal hasn't lost its rights for MIA flights. They just got into financial troubles and INAC denied the use of Ex Atlantic Airlines and Skyking a
63 MAH4546 : Word is that INAC has finally approved AA to fly to Valencia. And then, today, American Airlines withdrew their opposition to SBA flying MIA-VLN, whic
64 Orl777 : Wow Finally AA can Start VLN!!! Great news!! so tell me when they will start the flight? Many people from VLN are waiting for that flight Saludos
65 Maracucho85 : This is correct Mark. This is also being commented in another Venezuelan forum. In fact, it was a S3 worker who informed about the situation. As you
66 Vh320 : I am a little bit confused. How many 757s SB has at the present time? I understand they had two, yv2242 and yv2243. Is N816PG a third one? Thanks for
67 Orl777 : Actually They Operate the YV2242, the N816PG Parked in CCS with the new Colors and the TF-FIS that Currently is operating the CCS-MIA-CCS Route. The
68 VH320 : Thank you for the information.
69 Orl777 : So Any news About Conviasa? They´re flying with 3 ATR-72 (YV1850, YV2421, and YV2422) one ATR-42 (YV1009), the 737-300 (YV1007) and the Airbus A340-2
70 MAH4546 : I'm still a little confused...so AA does have permission to fly MIA-VLN or has AA given up?
71 Maracucho85 : According to a contact in S3, INAC granted them the permission. Nonetheless I have not seen any press release regarding the topic. Perhaps someone fr
72 Viasa : I've the information that Aserca gets more former NW DC-9s. Why they get more if this old lady? There many many planes of the 2nd generation (B733s, M
73 A388 : You know, these airlines don't surprise me anymore at all with the acquisition of very old aircraft. Like you said, the Fokker 100, MD80 and 733/734
74 Rleiro : No more Jets for Merida. They were banned in year 2001 once Avensa ceased operations. The jet must be less than 20 tonnes to operate in Merida, hence
75 Civilav : Roberto, Just a smal correction for the record. AVENSA ceased all Domestic jet operations at the end of February 2000. They were badly hit by the clo
76 Avianca : Avianca will beginning at 01.09.2008 with 6 x additional weekly flights on the BOG-VLN-BOG route using also Fokker100. Flight will operated with a nig
77 Clo1973 : Does anyone knows if AV will be granted permisin to resume CLO - MDE - CCS?...I wonder how can they start more frecuencies to VLN, if they had a restr
78 Avianca : as per my info they have given up CLO-MDE-CCS in favour of the second VLN flight
79 Avianca : now it is plnd for mid-november
80 Orl777 : Hey Avianca!! do you know what Equipment will use in this flight? I think E-190 on that route would be great. Can anyone confirm the start of the fli
81 Avianca : good question, I will check the next days and let you know... E-190 possible but I think they will start already with an Airbus... btw, wenn will AR
82 A388 : Have you seen the new livery TACA will use on their E190s? What I've seen in another thread it doesn't look that impressive. Sad to see their current
83 MIAMIx707 : Would love to see the great colors of Venezolana 737s at Miami. The airport needs more airlines from Latin America, and more colorful operators I hear
84 MIAMIx707 : Hi how's it going Civilav? One question for you, ok a few questions: 1-Did the Avensa service replace the Servivensa Miami frequencies? 2-Servivensa s
85 Orl777 : Thanks for the info, let us know when you have more news about. They Expected to Start the A343 flights in September but Let me check again with the
86 Civilav : Hi Miami ! Thank you for your questions which I am only too happy to answer. Servivensa and Avensa both flew to Miami in the 90s. Avensa opened servi
87 WesternA318 : Mine too!
88 Edgaren : Woww civilav thanks fot the info...I had always wondered what the logic was behind the avensa-servivensa operations..Now I have a new question for u:
89 Civilav : My pleasure George. You are very welcome. I am very glad too, Edgar, I was able to address an issue that did not quite make sense at first sight. Alt
90 A388 : Can you tell more about Zuliana who operated the 727-200 to Miami in the '90s? I saw this airline when I was passing MIA with LM and was surprised by
91 Chiguire : To complete the questions to Civilav: SAVAR - I think it was "Servicios Aereos Varina". They operated at the same time as Valenciana the route BNS and
92 Rleiro : Savar tried to open a route BNS - VLN - CCS with a 737-100. They didn't last long, as well as Air Margarita, which tried to compete with Aeropostal a
93 Civilav : Not really Chiguire.... we are talking here about a whole decade earlier. Servicios Aéreos Varina C.A. operated between 1981 and 1984 strictly betwe
94 Avianca : they will use the Embrear 190 on the new MAR route.... 4 x weekly starting in november.
95 MIAMIx707 : Apologies for the late reply. Wonderful explanation by Civilav, cheers! I'm not 100% sure but it's possible that I saw if not the 727, the Servivensa
96 Chiguire : Unfortunately I have never seen an aircraft from them. It would be really great if somebody here had a pic and would post it !
97 Post contains links and images Luisde8cd : Guys, Is Venezolana flying scheduled flights between PTY and Venezuela? During one of my stops in PTY last year (first week of december) I saw a Venez
98 797 : Epale Luis! I believe it's chartered flights, not sure... In the past, Conviasa used to fly those routes with Venezolana planes... I'm not sure how it
99 Avianca : news! flight canceled, they didnt get the needed slots as VLN airport is closing at midnight... and AV was scheduled to arrive at 12:30 ........
100 Clo1973 : So maybe there is chance that AV resumes its plans to fly CLO-MDE-CCS......Do you see any chance?
101 Avianca : to be honest not... AV had a lot of trouble with INAC ... and now that Aerorepublica is nearly established in the route the chances are very very sma
102 SJOtoLIR : Notice that CM PTY-CCS and vice versa has been upgraded to 3x daily since August 11th. Equipment: 2x 738 and 1x 73G. Regards.
103 Avianca : now we have a big presence in CCS of the CM/CO group 3 x daily pty 1 x daily mde (aerorepublica) 1 x daily bog (aerorepublica) 1 x daily iah
104 MAH4546 : There's no such thing as the "CM/CO group." CO sold all their remaining shares of Copa in May, and no longer owns any part of the airline.
105 Tomascubero : Hola amigos de Venezuela, Has there been any minor accient at CCS? I picked this NOTAM sent out to an MX flight sometime early morning today: [2008082
106 A388 : There was an Aires incident where the Dash-8 main landing gear on the right cockpit side collapsed during landing. The aircraft arrived in Barranquill
107 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : Cubana has used the Venezolana 737s as well. aqui va:
108 Maracucho85 : Hey all, I´m actually in CCS. It´s 1:19 PM and both runways are now up and running. The only thing to note right now is that the main runway is bein
109 Viasa : Hi Guys I was not often here last time (because of computer problems). So I have not seen all the things in this thread. My only (short) question is i
110 A388 : I read in another thread about a Venezuelan registered 737-200 (ex-Conviasa) registered YV-102T (?) that crashed in Ecuador on its delivery flight to
111 Chiguire : This is a joke question - isn't it ? Why shouldn't they ? Do you have any reason to ask ?
112 Rleiro : Hi Alberto, glad to see you in CCS: The winds usually change during August, so it's common to see takeoffs by runway 28, rather than the usual runway
113 Post contains links and images MIAMIx707 : hey np! Perhaps someone already mentioned it, but there was yet another Venezuelan airline called CAVE. They were using Metroliners in the early 90s.
114 Poh2 : Is Santa Barbara finally operating VLN-MIA? I know from friends that were supposed to fly the route last month that they were in fact never able to fl
115 Ogre727 : A question for you guys: Does anybody have pictures of foreign airlines that used to fly into CCS but not anymore? I remember seeing a picture of a Sw
116 Chiguire : I don't remember Metroliner. I flew a Trilander to Los Roques once. Nice service with comfort bags for the beach . As far as I know this was a group
117 MIAMIx707 : From the late 80s to about 1993, and you're right, Tri-Islanders were the original equipment
118 Rleiro : Personally I remember Swissair in CCS in A310 and MD-11, Pan Am flew literally all its fleet to CCS, from 747 to DC-10s and 727s. Eastern brought DC-
119 LipeGIG : My addition to this thread. Brazilian ANAC has released that Brazil-Venezuela bilateral agreement was increased to 21 from 14 weekly and now all non-r
120 JJ8080 : Isn't 32A able to do it Felipe? If not, I don't think that a A332 would be too much capacity.
121 Avianca : they could fill it! specially with cargo northbound...!
122 LipeGIG : I don't think so, even the 738 face some problems and tail wind can obligate them to do the technical stop. I believe TAM could manage to put a 763 o
123 Avianca : couldnt agree more, the 763, would be the perfect aircraft for the route, well not to much cargo capacity but much better than these days!,,, and yes
124 Civilav : Roberto, No, the only airline to fly Concorde into Caracas was Air France. Services began in 1977 and were ended in 1983 after the big devaluation of
125 Rleiro : Thank you for bringing this piece of Venezuelan aviation history and for clearing us about some highlight we ignored until now. I hope someday we can
126 Ogre727 : Guys, thanks a lot... does anybody have ANY pictures of those great past times? I am surprised by the small amount of pictures in the database of the
127 SJOtoLIR : By the late 90s, LACSA also flew SJO-CCS as non-stop with 732s. The operational tag-on towards SJU was added as well. Regards.
128 Civilav : Yes Roberto. That billboard just in the Chacao area was put up in the late 1980s. Japan Air lines has always been an off-shore airline in the country
129 LipeGIG : Lets wait and see, may be TAM confirm the change very soon.
130 Poh2 : anyone spot AR A340-300 in CCS yet? apparently they were to start 5x weekly service starting Sept. 1, with the A343...
131 Avianca : didnt they used the 747-100 on the route... at least I was in one ... 1991 on a LHR-CCS-BOG run.
132 Civilav : Avianca, Are you absolutely sure that in 1991, with Desert Storm and the Iraqi war hitting airlines, British Airways used 20-year old planes on this
133 Avianca : or it was 90... I will check with my dad in some days when I am back in germany... to visit the family, these days I was 7 years old... so , but I am
134 Post contains links Yendig : It was indeed possible - according to http://lhr-lgw.co.uk/index.htm I flew BA154 on a 747-100 (G-AWNH) as recently as 8th December 1996 from Egypt (
135 Rleiro : Yes, they will be in a 737-200. Saludos, Roberto.
136 Yendig : Thanks, Roberto. 732s are hard to come by in Europe now!
137 Avianca : you will enjoy it... had a flight last friday to visit an old friend from airliners.net... after 5 hours of waiting I was so pissed that I went home.
138 Yendig : Avianca, I could have flown direct to PMV but chose the long route via CCS hoping to find a 732 flight. Anything is better than the endless stream of
139 Chiguire : So are you finally coming this weekend ?
140 Viasa : LTA - Linea Turistica Aereotuy will get two former Coast Air (Norway) ATR42 to replace the Dash 7. So after LAI - Linea Aérea IAACA (gone), Santa Bar
141 Luisde8cd : Good news! But one question... can the ATR operate to/from Los Roques airfield? Saludos desde Caracas, Luis
142 Rleiro : AFAIK these ATRs are not intended to LRS but Grenada and Margarita Island. The Old Dash 7 will be in service as its airworthiness was extended, and t
143 A388 : Any chance of these nice LTA ATR42s going to CUR as well? If so, when? A388
144 Rleiro : Unless if it is a chartered flight, I highly doubt to see these ATRs operating scheduled flights to CUR. Saludos, Roberto.
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