Rwex414 From United States, joined May 2008, 82 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 month 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2918 times:
I know that Both Spirit and Jetblue have FLL as a hub/major city, but with everyone struggling one of them are bound to lose to the other. I know that FLL is Spirit's main city, but Jetblue is a much stronger airline right now . Can Spirit afford to lose their largest city?
Please correct me if I am wrong with anything.
Jmc1975 From United States, joined Sep 2000, 2820 posts, RR: 17 Reply 4, posted (1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2873 times:
When Spirit goes under, it will significantly drop the ASMs at FLL to be more in line with forecasted demand. Then, if there are any holes to be filled, jetBlue would be well-positioned to increase service as needed and in accordance to their business plan. It's safe to say that jetBlue will be the primary beneficiary of NK's departure.
Caymanair From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2004, 461 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2818 times:
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 6): NK has something extremely valuable that only one other carrier has; and this asset will be the envy of every other US carrier.
and what exactly would that asset be? I cant seem to think of what it could be, but I could just be missing the obvious.....
In any case the two airlines are positioned much differently at FLL. Jetblue offers domestic service only, while Spirit serves mainly Latin America and the Caribbean. What limited domestic service is still provided by Spirit is generally independent of competition with Jetblue. Actually, just taking the routes they fly out of FLL into account, I would say Spirit is best positioned to flourish. A merger would bring a great international network to Jetblue and would make them King of Fort Lauderdale.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 22291 posts, RR: 64 Reply 8, posted (1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2802 times:
Quoting Caymanair (Reply 7): Quoting SCL767 (Reply 6):
NK has something extremely valuable that only one other carrier has; and this asset will be the envy of every other US carrier.
and what exactly would that asset be? I cant seem to think of what it could be, but I could just be missing the obvious.....
You are missing the obvious.
Spirit has a Latin American network that many - JetBlue included - would kill for. As much as people love to trash Spirit, they are in far better shape than most of the industry thanks to such a strong network in the Latin America/Caribbean region. In 2009 they will continue to move more and more flying to this region.
I personally can't stand Spirit and their product, but credit is due when it's due, and they have done a great job weathering the storm, so far...
Quoting B6fll (Reply 2):
Quoting Rwex414 (Thread starter):
but Jetblue is a much stronger airline right now
I think you answered your own question there. I am pretty sure there wont be much of a debate on this topic!
Spirit is more fragile than JetBlue, but Spirit is likely posting better financial results.
SCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 1046 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2774 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8): Spirit has a Latin American network that many - JetBlue included - would kill for.
I implied that when I said that only ONE other carrier has this asset; right down the road from FLL.
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8): network that many - JetBlue included - would kill for
Absolutely true! VX and others would love to own this asset someday.
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8): I personally can't stand Spirit and their product, but credit is due when it's due, and they have done a great job weathering the storm, so far...
I've never tried NK's product. However, I bought a ticket FLL-MCO-FLL,( its a turn from FLL) for $29.00, plus $10.00 for the seat assignments just to "try" their product to see what its really like. Everyone trashes NK simply because they are jealous of its success, so far...
SCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 1046 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2717 times:
Quoting Caymanair (Reply 10): considering i went on to talk about Spirits enviable Latin American network.
The thing is most people don't even know this; and simply think that NK is looking at
"traditional" LLC destinations to serve. But we have seen the affects that NK has inflicted on certain carriers on certain routes, (e.g. AA, BW, JM, KX, and UP).
SANFan From United States, joined Aug 2006, 1824 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2568 times:
Quoting Rwex414 (Thread starter): I know that Both Spirit and Jetblue have FLL as a hub/major city, but with everyone struggling one of them are bound to lose to the other. I know that FLL is Spirit's main city, but Jetblue is a much stronger airline right now.
Tell you what: I'll award the blue ribbon to whichever one starts flying from FLL to San Diego -- that carrier would definitely be the winner in my eyes!
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MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 2980 posts, RR: 22 Reply 20, posted (1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2464 times:
Quoting SANFan (Reply 19): I'll award the blue ribbon to whichever one starts flying from FLL to San Diego -- that carrier would definitely be the winner in my eyes!
Won't happen soon with these fuel prices. It's a five hours flight, and with little premium traffic. If they try to ask a decent price, pax will stay away and choose the current options from Miami or connecting at ATL, IAH, DEN or driving from LAX instead. Spirit did the right thing, not wasting their aircraft on $99 flights FLL-LAX but sending them to (potential) higher yield destinations in latin America instead with less competition.
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