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Thoughts On The DL/NW Merger  
User currently offlineDutchdragon From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 22 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3659 times:

As I have seen multiple threads and forums regarding this ongoing topic, I'd thought that I'd put in my 2 cents, since being a former NW Flight Attendant myself, from the post Northwest-Republic merger back in the late 80's.

1. Fleet commonality - It is my most sincerest wish that if Delta is the "dominate" carrier of this merger, that they either purge or sell all of NW's Airbus fleet ASAP, maybe with the exception of their A330's to be used on Trans-Atlantic flights or flights to Latin America. Also the get rid of all of their DC-9's and MD-80's as well ASAP, since they are seriously "old school" and are major fuel burners. Maybe sell them off to some "start-up" banana republic airline or something or just for the spare parts anyways. I do hope, however, that the do acquire more Boeing widebody aircraft, such as 767-400's, 777-200ER's, LR's and -300ER's for long haul service (obviously) and 737-700's, -800's and maybe 900's for domestic and North American services. Maybe they'll buy Embraers "E" jets (170,175,190,195) for their regional services, but one can only guess, but it would be a nice idea anyways .....

2. Fleet Livery - I will be glad to see the current NW livery to go away, although I did like the previous "bowling shoe" (as I have seen others in here call it) livery as their best. The only thing that was "goofy" about both of them was the little "compass" on them, as if you were looking on one side of one of their planes, it was indeed pointing "Northwest", however, if you looked on the other side, it was pointing "Northeast", which to me never, ever, made any sense to me, just as much sense as having a mixed fleet of Boeing, Airbus and McDonnell Douglas Aircraft. On the same token, it would make more sense it the Delta triangle on the tails of their aircraft were pointed on the opposite direction. Will they make some kind of "hybrid" livery of the 2 airlines, one can only wonder ......

3. Routes, Hubs & Spokes, Flight Crew and Maintenance Bases -

A. Flight Crew Bases - As I said in the opening, when I was a Flight Attendant for Northwest, post their merger with Republic, the majority of the "new hire" flight attendants at the time were based at DTW, although some were lucky enough to go to BOS (when they had a hub there at the time anyways. It will be interesting to see if people (flight and cabin crews that it is) that are based in DL's hubs, like ATL, SLC, NYC, etc. can move to NW's hubs, like MSP, MEM, DTW, SEA, etc. and the vise versa.

B. Maintenance Bases - Since I live here in SEA, both NW and DL have maintenance hangers here, so it will be interesting to see if they will keep hangers in hub and spoke airports or either/both airline or close or sell one of their hanger(s).

C. Hubs and Spokes - It will be interesting to see if traffic between NW's and DL's hubs and spokes will either increase, decrease or remain the same.

D. Routes - I can only hope and "pray" (if not literally, then at least figuratively anyways), that international air service will increase for the hubs and spokes of both airlines, at least in time anyways as hope, as oil prices go down and airliner "alternative fuels" come online, hopefully sooner, rather than later, which will hopefully increase profits for this combined airline, in which they can by more fuel efficient aircraft to fly such routes. Also, hopefully this combined airline will take more advantages of countries that we have mutual "open skies" with, in addition to the EU.

4. Uniforms - Well, at the time I was with Northwest, the colors at the time that the cabin crews (flight attendants) were wearing at the time were burgundy and tan (although they called it "fawn" for whatever reason). It will be interesting to see what colors they will sporting, will it be a traditional navy, red or as they say on Monty Python "and now, for something completely different ..... :-P LOL"

5. Flight and Cabin crews - One of the "growing pains" after the Northwest/Republic merger, were that there complaint from the former Republic flight attendants (I don't know about the pilots), in that thought they were a "combined airline" the Republic F/A's were still flying their routes and the Northwest F/A's were still flying their's, so there was no "crossover".
Hopefully, the pilots and F/A's of both airlines will be flying both of their route networks.

Well, that's my 2 cents (and maybe some added change).

What are anybody else's thoughs about what I have addressed ? It would be good to hear from any former or current Northwest or Delta employee's about this.

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User currently offlinePlanefxr From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3536 times:



Quoting Dutchdragon (Thread starter):
both NW and DL have maintenance hangers here

DL no longer has the old Western hanger/reservation building in SEA, however NW built a very nice hanger on that site.


User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10342 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (6 years 17 hours ago) and read 3376 times:



Quoting Dutchdragon (Thread starter):

I can address a few of your concerns, which have been discussed on here quite often.

#1......the fleet will have a mix of Boeing and Airbus, probably for quite awhile. The DC-9's will stay longer than you think and possibly used on some current RJ routes. They may be fuel burners but they're also paid for.

#2.....the current Delta livery will be the livery of the merged airline, per management.


#4.....the NW F/A's will be wearing the Richard Tyler uniforms from day one, per management.

#5.....After the merger is ok'd (and it will be) NW and DL will operate separately for 12-24 months until things are worked out operationally and a single operating certificate is obtained. After that, depending on a company wide vote of F/A's to decide whether they want union representation or not, they will indeed have the ability to fly whatever routes they can bid for. The pilots will probably be able to fly the routes as soon as the operating certificate is obtained.

Welcome aboard.



"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
User currently offlineDutchdragon From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 16 hours ago) and read 3320 times:

One other thing I forgot to bring up, is what will happen to Northwest Airlines Cargo fleet, pilots, routes, especially their bases in ANC and NRT ?

Will Delta keep them as well or sell them off to either UPS, FedEx, DHL or someone else ?

Does anybody know ?


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21472 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (6 years 16 hours ago) and read 3297 times:



Quoting Mayor (Reply 2):
I can address a few of your concerns, which have been discussed on here quite often.

What happened to #3? Was it not important?



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10342 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (6 years 16 hours ago) and read 3297 times:



Quoting Dutchdragon (Reply 3):
One other thing I forgot to bring up, is what will happen to Northwest Airlines Cargo fleet, pilots, routes, especially their bases in ANC and NRT ?

Will Delta keep them as well or sell them off to either UPS, FedEx, DHL or someone else ?

Does anybody know ?

Check out this thread...........

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4074545/



"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
User currently offlineGsosbee From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 15 hours ago) and read 3247 times:



Quoting Dutchdragon (Thread starter):
Maybe sell them off to some "start-up" banana republic airline or something or just for the spare parts anyways.

The problem is Airbus' financial terms to the start-ups generally mean they can get new airplanes for about the same financial impact as the used airplanes.

I still have to think that DL management will squeeze all that they can out of any airplane that is owned as that is where you make your serious money.


User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10342 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (6 years 15 hours ago) and read 3215 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 4):
Quoting Mayor (Reply 2):
I can address a few of your concerns, which have been discussed on here quite often.


What happened to #3? Was it not important?

Yes, it is......I just didn't feel that I had the knowledge to make an educated reply to it.



"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21472 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (6 years 15 hours ago) and read 3181 times:



Quoting Mayor (Reply 7):
Yes, it is......I just didn't feel that I had the knowledge to make an educated reply to it.

Fair enough!  Smile Thanks for the other info.

I'm looking forward to the merger myself. I'll be switching over to DL from CO due to SRQ closure and family moving out of IAH area, so the more options, the better!



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4742 posts, RR: 45
Reply 9, posted (6 years 14 hours ago) and read 3156 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 8):
I'll be switching over to DL from CO due to SRQ closure and family moving out of IAH area, so the more options, the better!

When you arrive, welcome to the family!



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