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Airline Stocks On The Rise!  
User currently offlineUAL727NE From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 205 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2531 times:

Wow just checked out this site... http://money.cnn.com/data/sectors/Airlines/

Oil went down to $128.38 and now all the Airlines stocks are jumping up! This is very good news. Look at UAL, over 8 dollars a share. Im very happy about this.


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User currently offlineTys777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2512 times:

Yea, and if Oil goes back up tomorrow, the airline stocks will all dive downward


Is it bad that I get excited to see even a CRJ overfly? Man, what this place does to you
User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9112 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2512 times:



Quoting Tys777 (Reply 1):
Yea, and if Oil goes back up tomorrow, the airline stocks will all dive downward

Yeah, I doubt this will be something very long-lived. But, we'll see...



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User currently offlineUAL727NE From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2490 times:

I was just pointing it out and sharing it. I am not stupid I know if oil goes up they will drop again. Its just that its been going down for 4 days now so I wanted to share.


Gotta love 3 holers!!! MD11,DC10,L-1011,B727 for life!!!!
User currently offlineCrewchief From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2416 times:

It's good that oil is going down, but more important is the price point where airlines will make money again. Given the upcoming capacity and cost reductions, at what price point will airlines be profitable?

I read on another thread that FL said they would be profitable at $105/bbl + $30 refining margin. Does that equate to a quote of $105/bbl for light, sweet crude? If so, the price of oil has to drop a lot more. Also, I heard on CNBC that oil has a trading range of about +-25% or so, indicating a trading range of $125-$150.


User currently offlineTys777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2295 times:

Oil went down another 2.25 in overnight trading, if that contiues through today, expect the airline stocks to climb again.


Is it bad that I get excited to see even a CRJ overfly? Man, what this place does to you
User currently offlineSxf24 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1250 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2264 times:

A few days on the rise does not make up (even a tiny bit) for months and months of aggressive selling.

You may think UAUA is having a great day when its up about 60%, but it is still off well over 80% from previous levels...


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3414 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2260 times:

What about European carriers? Are we seeing the same trend over here?

User currently offlineDfwcre8tive From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2199 times:

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/07/post-7.html

Airline | 22-Jul | 15-Jul | Change | $100,000 investment

AirTran | $2.41 | $1.46 | 65% | $165,068

Alaska | $18.50 | $10.80 | 71% | $171,296

AMR | $9.25 | $4.41 | 110% | $209,751

Continental | $13.26 | $6.65 | 99% | $199,398

Delta | $7.71 | $4.67 | 65% | $165,096

JetBlue | $4.50 | $3.18 | 42% | $141,509

Northwest | $9.08 | $5.39 | 68% | $168,460

Southwest | $15.69 | $13.75 | 14% | $114,109

UAL | $8.41 | $3.13 | 169% | $268,690

US Airways | $4.27 | $1.76 | 143% | $242,614

Total 85% | $1,845,993


User currently offlineNational757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

Quoting Dfwcre8tive (Reply 8):

Very interesting however it's easy to play "Monday Morning Quarterback" after a substantial increase in airline stock prices. UAL, US or any other airline could have just as easily declared BK had oil prices continued to rise.

When it comes to investing in airlines.. Robert Crandall says it best..... "And I always said to the employees of American, This is not an appropriate investment. It's a great place to work and it's a great company that does important work. But airlines are not an investment.'...."

[Edited 2008-07-23 08:28:22]


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User currently offlineBmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2108 times:

$127 crude is quite cheaper than $145 crude but it will take some time for jet fuel to come back down.

Many commodity analysts think oil will trade at $120 for the next few months possibly down to $100 by year end. Hopefully we won't see another spike upwards. After the Beijing Olympics you will probably see a substantial drop in oil.

The long term view is that oil will remain above $100 for the next year or so and airlines will have to re-organize by merger, fleet and route cutbacks and hopefully airline CEOs will trim their super-size salaries...ya right!!!  footinmouth 



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24080 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2047 times:



Quoting Sxf24 (Reply 6):
You may think UAUA is having a great day when its up about 60%, but it is still off well over 80% from previous levels...

You also have to keep the arithmetic in mind. If a stock price goes from $100 to $50 it's dropped by 50%, but to get back to $100 it has to increase by 100%. Or if a stock plunges from 100 to 10 it's dropped by 90%, but to get back from 10 to 100 it has to increase by 900%.


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