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Happy 49th Birthday To: The Jetway; A DL First  
User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2092 posts, RR: 5
Posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6348 times:

Tuesday marked the 49th anniversary of Glenn Hughie’s development of Delta’s first Jetway.

Back then, passengers routinely walked outside, across the tarmac and climbed a set of stairs rolled into position to board their flight.

In September 1959, we made aviation history when we offered the world’s first jet service with the Douglas DC-8. As we prepared for that historic flight, Delta leaders were determined to offer the first jet passengers the added convenience of boarding directly from the terminal building. Glenn was asked to develop an appropriate design.

Working with Delta engineers, Glenn studied the DC-8 and other specifications and struggled with the concept. Finally, during a 2 a.m. epiphany, he envisioned a workable design and crafted a model with cardboard, scissors and glue that he presented the following morning. Given the OK to proceed, Glenn approached the Pacific Iron and Steel Corp. in Los Angeles, which produced the first branded Jetway boarding bridge. The prototype was used in Atlanta when we took delivery of our first DC-8 on July 22, 1959, and went into passenger service on Sept. 18 with our first jet flight.

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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6340 times:



Quoting DL Widget Head (Thread starter):
In September 1959, we made aviation history when we offered the world’s first jet service with the Douglas DC-8.

Since when did DL have the first Jet flight? Unless they mean first DC-8 flight...



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User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2092 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6314 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 1):
Since when did DL have the first Jet flight?

If you didn't stop your question there...then you would have answered your own question.

The quote is...

Quoting DL Widget Head (Thread starter):
we offered the world's first jet service with the Douglas DC-8

Seems pretty clear to me.


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6265 times:



Quoting DL Widget Head (Thread starter):
In September 1959, we made aviation history when we offered the world’s first jet service with the Douglas DC-8

Both DL and UA started DC-8 service on the same day, but because of the different time zones involved, the DL DC-8 entered service 2 hours earlier.


User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3813 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6260 times:



Quoting DL Widget Head (Thread starter):
The prototype was used in Atlanta when we took delivery of our first DC-8 on July 22, 1959, and went into passenger service on Sept. 18 with our first jet flight.

That's odd. This U.S. Government website about aviation history facts

http://www.centennialofflight.gov/user/fact_jul.htm

states

Quote:
July 29, 1959 - The first jetway in the U.S. is installed at the International Airport in San Francisco, California. Designed to protect passengers from the weather when they board or leave the jet plane, it is a powered telescopic or collapsible corridor that extends to the aircraft and connects the plane to the terminal. They are commonplace in all airports today. (OTM)

LoneStarMike


User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2092 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6233 times:



Quoting LoneStarMike (Reply 4):
That's odd. This U.S. Government website about aviation history facts

Odd indeed. Still, the DL jetway beat SFO's by 7 days. DL's was actually in use on July 22nd whereas, the article about SFO's mentions only that it was installed on July 29th.


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6216 times:



Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 2):
Seems pretty clear to me.

Actaully, that could be read as them being the first airline to ever launch jet service and the type was the DC-8 OR The first service operated with the dc-8. They diddnt launch the first jet flights, they launched the first flights of the DC-8.



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User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2092 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6183 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 6):
Actaully, that could be read as them being the first airline to ever launch jet service and the type was the DC-8 OR The first service operated with the dc-8

I concede your point. After reading it again, I can see where a double entendre could exist.


User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2435 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5813 times:

A photo for ya:




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User currently offlineUA772IAD From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 1730 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5713 times:



Quoting LoneStarMike (Reply 4):
That's odd. This U.S. Government website about aviation history facts

http://www.centennialofflight.gov/user/fact_jul.htm

states

I was under the impression that SFO was the first to operate jetways also. You learn something new everyday. Perhaps the difference is that DL's jetway (the first) was privately owned, whereas the one at SFO was government/publically owned (the city of SF)?


User currently offlineEghansen From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5534 times:

San Francisco had odd jetways. There were two for each airplane with one attached to the front and one attached to the rear of the aircraft. I have a picture in an old encyclopedia.

I don't think that that setup lasted very long.

The Pan Am Terminal at JFK had airbridges which were somewhat like jetways except they did not have roofs or side walls, only railings. The protection from inclement weather came from the round roof cantilevered out which is still there, although now in the Delta terminal.

I don't think that setup lasted very long either.

San Diego Lindbergh Field did not have any jetways at all until the late 1980's when the West Terminal (now renamed Terminal 2) was built and the East Terminal (Terminal 1) was remodeled. Even today, Southwest has two gates which use airstairs and outside boarding. Credit near-perfect weather!!!


User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5449 times:



Quoting DL Widget Head (Thread starter):
Back then, passengers routinely walked outside, across the tarmac and climbed a set of stairs rolled into position to board their flight.

...as they still do in many, many airports. At least now they are no longer in danger of being eaten by a dinosaur while making their way across the tarmac.


LY744.



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User currently offlineIAD51FL From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 354 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5367 times:

I think the 2nd Jetway is here in Wichita  Smile) And 3rd at DAL on 26.... j/k

Actually I did find out the Gate 3 jetway here in Wichita was built in 1975...for what its worth. But its dead for the time being waiting for Maint.

Chris



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User currently offlineDl_mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1937 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5321 times:

IIRC, DL's first jetways were fixed to the terminal as shown above. SFO's may have been first to be drivable and articulating.

Does anyone know if BTR still has an original Jetway? It was there about ten years ago and was about half the width of a current Jetway.

Quoting IAD51FL (Reply 12):
Actually I did find out the Gate 3 jetway here in Wichita was built in 1975...for what its worth.

Does it have a level setting marked "SST?" Most Jetways around that era did.



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User currently offlineRwy04LGA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5204 times:



Quoting Eghansen (Reply 10):
The Pan Am Terminal at JFK had airbridges which were somewhat like jetways except they did not have roofs or side walls, only railings.

In May of 1967, I boarded a Pan American DC-8 from the airbridge at gate 2. Flight 76 to PIK via KEF, my first jet flight and only my second flight.



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User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4009 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 5079 times:
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Quoting Eghansen (Reply 10):
San Diego Lindbergh Field did not have any jetways at all until the late 1980's when the West Terminal (now renamed Terminal 2) was built and the East Terminal (Terminal 1) was remodeled. Even today, Southwest has two gates which use airstairs and outside boarding. Credit near-perfect weather!!!

Wow! I didn't know that. In fact, it probably expedites, boarding, deplaninga and turning the plane around like WN does in BUR, and B6 does in LGB. It's similar to how Easy Jet & FR do it in Europe.

Are there any specific websites that tell the full history from the first days jetways were introduced to current day usage, and how advanced they are now (I love the glass one's. I don't know why we don't have them here in the US. They even have them @ GDL & PVR).


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 5062 times:



Quoting LACA773 (Reply 15):
(I love the glass one's

I've never had a flight outside the CONUS, so I've never had the opportunity to see one in person, but from pictures, at least, yes they are quite nice -- I'd love to see one here

Quoting LACA773 (Reply 15):
I don't know why we don't have them here in the US.

I don't have the NFPA regs, but IIRC it has to do with them being considered part of the egress path in case of fire or other emergency and thus the thinking that if you can see fire/explosion/wahtever you may panic...or something like that. I'm pretty sure this was discussed in detail in at least on this site.

I've always thought the glorified "shipping crate on wheels" look that is so prevelant of [US] jetways could stand a little upgrade.



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User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4009 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 5048 times:
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Quoting Lincoln (Reply 16):
don't have the NFPA regs, but IIRC it has to do with them being considered part of the egress path in case of fire or other emergency and thus the thinking that if you can see fire/explosion/wahtever you may panic...or something like that. I'm pretty sure this was discussed in detail in at least on this site.

I've always thought the glorified "shipping crate on wheels" look that is so prevelant of [US] jetways could stand a little upgrade.

Thanks for your thoughts about this. It would be very interesting to see what the actual reasons are. If they airlines have to purchase them and not the airport, then it's pretty obvious why...

I still remember back in the day I wonder how some of the jetways I've walked through were still standing or working (od TW T3 @ LAX and pre-renovation of T2 @ LAX, actually there were other areas @ LAX that had thrashed jetways). I'm sure there are still airports that have some pretty banged up, battered one's..


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 5038 times:

I don't know how old it is but this jetway at BDL looks pretty decrepit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/Fleetwing1627/IMG_0167.jpg


User currently offlineORDagent From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5009 times:

Jet Bridges are odd ducks. When I worked at ORD and was jetbridge trained. Different ones moved at different speeds or jerked or always had the level warning go off. Some were easy and some godawful.

User currently offlineBeertrucker From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4930 times:

ALB had 3 jetsway in the USair side. but AA Delta and NW and UA still loaded from the ground untill the early 90's I forget when the USAir jetways were put in.


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User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4009 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4894 times:
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Quoting MD-90 (Reply 18):
I don't know how old it is but this jetway at BDL looks pretty decrepit.

Yes. This is really, really bad. Is this jetway still there? It reminds of airports that don't have jetways and an airline comes in and puts one in place on the tarmac level, and it's pretty much like that (i.e., DL in SJC).


User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 4814 times:



Quoting Eghansen (Reply 10):
San Francisco had odd jetways. There were two for each airplane with one attached to the front and one attached to the rear of the aircraft. I have a picture in an old encyclopedia.

The jetway configuration at SFO where used at a few airports during that era including LAX and ORD primarily by UA and TWA. Most of you have seen the classic film Airport (1970) and fictious Lincoln Airport in Chicago (actually MSP) used those type jetways for the infamous departure of Trans Global 2 to Rome. In most cases includng the departure scene in the movie both jetways where driven far enough to the side to allow even a 707 or DC-8 to power out (sharp right turn) instead of being pushed back.

Regards

LGA777


User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10397 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4721 times:

Quoting LGA777 (Reply 22):

At ORD Delta used to park the 747 at gate H-11, using the Jetways at 11a and 11b.

[Edited 2008-07-25 08:06:56]


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User currently offlineXaphan From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 129 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4556 times:

The original terminal connected jetways that Delta had at ORD in the 60's and very eary 70s could work with any DC 8 or CV 880s, but not with DC 9s. Passengers had to walk downstairs and out on the ramp to board by the front integral steps on the DC 9s. It was murder in the winter and when you were boarding a carry-on wheelchair passenger.

Most Delta DC 9s at the time were "double parked" at an angle behind the tail of a four engined jet due to lack of gate space (5 gates at the time, H3 to H 10). When the 747 operations began, Delta had no jetways to reach the beast, so American worked the three flights a day out of one of their gates until an agreement was reached with North Central (who shared the H concourse with Delta) to swap some gates. They got H 3 and H 4, while Delta picked up H 11 which was actually two gates long. New, drivable jetways were added to all gates. There were still DC 9s that had to drop their steps, but the new jetways could at least reach them, if there was one available. The 0700 flight to Nashville, a DC 9-10, was parked almost under the right wing of the 0900 747 flight to MIA. The 747 was parked broadside to H-11 A and B. I always loved to see the look on the Nashville passengers faces when they came to the gate to see the 747 there but no DC 9. To board, they had to go down the stairs and walk underneath the 747. We also worked a DC 9-30 at the same gate, and the same time frame. It was inbound from SDF, and arrived about 0800. It was parked at an angle under the tail of the 747 and almost up to the left wing. I once saw a co=pilot open his escape hatch to eyeball the parking. That flight terminated (as did nearly all DL ORD flights). The new DC 9-30 flight left at something like 0840 and was pushed back by jet tug. Those were exciting days!


25 Mayor : I once saw a DC-9 parked under the left wing of the 747, between 11B and 10B (which was hardly ever used. This was right in the area where inbound ma
26 727LOVER : If I'm not mistaken, that's the old TWA gate. Is that the official name? JETWAY Or is that a company name? How many companies make them and what is t
27 KcrwFlyer : The term I hear used the most is Jetbridge. The makers I know of are Jetway and dewbridge. I'm sure there are others.
28 Post contains links Viscount724 : It's a registered trademark of the following company which at one time was known as FMC Corp. which spun off the airport equipment division (among ot
29 Silver1SWA : Actually, that is incorrect. Three years ago, SAN installed two ground level jetways at gates 1 and 2, the gates previously operated using airstairs.
30 Eghansen : Ooops!!! Just checked Google and you are right. The remodel however had nothing to with an earthquake. San Diego has not had an earthquake in its mod
31 BOSSAN : The jetbridge says B17; that concourse of Terminal B has already been closed. The nearly single story concourse in the photo speaks to the terminal's
32 Post contains links OtnySASLHR : I'm sorry to say that you're wrong. The original Gatwick Airport (The Beehive) built in 1936 had fully-enclosed, telescopic units at all its gates. It
33 OtnySASLHR : We also called them "Jetties" (It's been afew years since I left LHR) I guess that's another naval expression that's transferred into aviation
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