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When Did DL Move International Flights From E?  
User currently offlineJCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3983 times:

I last connected internationally in ATL in May of 2003 (I lived there from 95-02), and even in the afternoon and evening they still had DL domestic flights departing from Terminal E, along with all of their international schedule. I was just checking out a trip report and someone's flight to Stuttgart a few months ago departed from the T-gates. Did I miss something besides DL's substantial international growth? Is there actually a customs/immigration facility somewhere in T or are international flights simply parked at E and towed elsewhere for boarding? Personally, I'd be relatively disappointed having to leave internationally from anywhere else than E, as the other terminals are horrifically crowded and have less than adequate shopping and food.


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User currently offlineSkymiler From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3965 times:

Flights leave regularly from 'T' on an "as needed" basis, depending on gate availability. 'T' can accomodate the widebodies easily, as it was originally the international concourse

DUB often goes out of 'T' side.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3965 times:

It does not matter where you depart from gate wise, only on arrival do you need International gates.


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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4717 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3963 times:



Quoting JCS17 (Thread starter):
someone's flight to Stuttgart a few months ago departed from the T-gates

Key word = DEPARTED They can have have departures leave from any gate, some departures now leave from T., however the all ARRIVE at E. This is a byproduct of the large international expansion that has gone on since 2003.



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User currently offlineNeedmolegroom From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3963 times:

Not an expert on what DL does, but AFAIK all International stuff continues to arrive at E - presumably an essential for customs etc etc.
However, as I've found myself some International flights now depart from the T gate, presumably the planes are hauled around from E. For departing passengers that's much better since getting to T is a dawdle compared to E. T has also seem major renovations, and there are various shops and food outlets, not as many as E, but enough.



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User currently offlineMisbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3960 times:

It was a couple of years ago that they started using concourses besides E for international departures.

They always used the other concourses for Canada-Bermuda-Bahamas flights. But now, they regularly use T (and sometimes A) for European fights too - but only departures. All international arrivals (except those with both immigration and customs preclearance) are still at E. It depends on where the aircraft is incoming from, to save time and bother of towing to E for departures.

Eg: A LAX-ATL-DUB rotation could mean the ATL-DUB flight departing from A or T. But on the inbound, the flight would arrive from DUB at E, then be towed to T/A/B for the LAX flight.


User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3941 times:

DL uses the T-Gates when E becomes full around the afternoon push. E is the primary International departure terminal however you can leave from ATL international technically from any gate. They use the T gates because that used to be the International Concourse before E was built so the spacing for the 767's and jetways are just right. International flights that need to clear in ATL will always arrive into E however. T is not capable anymore. Pre-cleared international flights like the Bahamas and Canada can arrive at any domestic gate and typically leave from A Concourse.


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User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5310 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3667 times:



Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 6):
E is the primary International departure terminal however you can leave from ATL international technically from any gate.

Both AA and UA send all of their European and Asian departures from their domestic terminals at ORD, and IB and LH also depart ORD from Terminals 3 and 1, respectively.

On the other hand, AA's and UA's international arrivals park at Terminal 5, then the aircraft are towed to the domestic terminals for their next departures.

The one thing that Concourse T is missing is a Chick-fil-A.


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9700 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3598 times:



Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 6):



DL uses the T-Gates when E becomes full around the afternoon push. E is the primary International departure terminal however you can leave from ATL international technically from any gate. They use the T gates because that used to be the International Concourse before E was built so the spacing for the 767's and jetways are just right. International flights that need to clear in ATL will always arrive into E however. T is not capable anymore. Pre-cleared international flights like the Bahamas and Canada can arrive at any domestic gate and typically leave from A Concourse.

DL has WB gates on T,A,E. AFAIK the largest plane B can take now is a 757.
So any of DL's international flights could leave from T,A,E but can only Arrive on E.

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 5):
Eg: A LAX-ATL-DUB rotation could mean the ATL-DUB flight departing from A or T. But on the inbound, the flight would arrive from DUB at E, then be towed to T/A/B for the LAX flight.

Or (at parts of the day) just leave to LAX from E.



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User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4064 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3587 times:
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Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 6):
DL uses the T-Gates when E becomes full around the afternoon push. E is the primary International departure terminal however you can leave from ATL international technically from any gate. They use the T gates because that used to be the International Concourse before E was built so the spacing for the 767's and jetways are just right. International flights that need to clear in ATL will always arrive into E however. T is not capable anymore. Pre-cleared international flights like the Bahamas and Canada can arrive at any domestic gate and typically leave from A Concourse.

How many gates-jetways does T-E have? How many are used by DL during peak times? They don't have remote international gates @ ATL?
It seems like this works out well for DL as they don't have to do like many other airports, i.e., LAX, JFK etc., where flights that leave during peak times have to be boarded via bus from remote jetways (LAX) or stairs and mobile lounges (JFK). And we all know that happens a lot in Europe.


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9700 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3574 times:



Quoting LACA773 (Reply 9):
How many gates-jetways does T-E have? How many are used by DL during peak times? They don't have remote international gates @ ATL?

DL has one side of T with AA and UA on the other. I think its 6 gates. E has 15-20 gates and they are shared with DL/KL/AF/LH/BA/AM/KE.



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User currently offlinePA101 From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 491 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3486 times:

BTW: Concourse E sucks terribly, 'cause when arriving from an international flight, you'll always have to wait in line for the nasty TSA security, even IF you exit in ATL, since you have to take the train to the main terminal past the domestic gates.

Back when concourse T was used for international flights, it was much more conveniant...


User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1507 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3366 times:

During the evening international push you will see that ALL of the gates over at E are taken, the flights that cannot fit at E will then leave from T, and at times that is not enough...I have had to leave to MXP on a 767-400 from A.

User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9700 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3264 times:



Quoting PA101 (Reply 11):
BTW: Concourse E sucks terribly, 'cause when arriving from an international flight, you'll always have to wait in line for the nasty TSA security, even IF you exit in ATL, since you have to take the train to the main terminal past the domestic gates.

It should all be fixed when the new Terminal/Con F. is done.



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User currently offlinePA101 From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 491 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3248 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 13):
It should all be fixed when the new Terminal/Con F. is done.

Oh - there are plans to resolve that problem? Sounds great! When is the new terminal / concourse F scheduled for opening???


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3233 times:



Quoting PA101 (Reply 14):
Oh - there are plans to resolve that problem? Sounds great! When is the new terminal / concourse F scheduled for opening???

Currently, it is scheduled to open in 2010 or 2011.



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User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3839 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3202 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 10):
DL has one side of T with AA and UA on the other. I think its 6 gates.

DL's gates go up to at least T8, as a flight to CMH I took not too long ago left T8. I remember somebody once said on here that all the DL gates on T are widebody gates with the exception of that one.



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6132 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3130 times:



Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 16):
Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 10):
DL has one side of T with AA and UA on the other. I think its 6 gates.

DL's gates go up to at least T8, as a flight to CMH I took not too long ago left T8. I remember somebody once said on here that all the DL gates on T are widebody gates with the exception of that one.

DL has all 7 gates on the south side of T (T1-T8 there is no T6), AA has 4 (T9-T12) and UA has 3 (T13-15) on the north side of the concourse.



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User currently offlineTWAL1011727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 637 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3046 times:



Quoting PA101 (Reply 11):
BTW: Concourse E sucks terribly, 'cause when arriving from an international flight, you'll always have to wait in line for the nasty TSA security, even IF you exit in ATL, since you have to take the train to the main terminal past the domestic gates.

Back when concourse T was used for international flights, it was much more conveniant...

Check out the Atlanta plan for the Int'l terminal.....quite interesting..

http://www.atlanta-airport.com
then click on airport construction then Jackson int'l terminal

KD


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6622 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3037 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 10):
DL has one side of T with AA and UA on the other. I think its 6 gates. E has 15-20 gates and they are shared with DL/KL/AF/LH/BA/AM/KE.

As United1 said, it's 7 gates. I know because I recently counted them from an aerial pic I took.


OK, I' ve got a question about the south end of T.
In '99-00, when I was on the south parking deck watching aircraft depart 9L, the aircraft would start rotating then go behind the T structure and emerge airborne about 7 seconds later. But on my last few visits, I notice that I have a clear view of the aircraft. Why was part of T torn down?



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