SV777KiloAlpha From Saudi Arabia, joined Dec 2003, 269 posts, RR: 2 Posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 13864 times:
This is from BBC website:
"A plane was forced to make an emergency landing in Germany after two British women tried to open a cabin door mid-flight, police have said.
The women, aged 26 and 27, were drinking heavily and had to be held in their seats by security staff until the plane landed in Frankfurt.
They were then arrested, a spokesman for the Frankfurt force said.
The flight was on its way from the Greek island of Kos to Manchester when the incident happened.
The incident happened at an altitude of 10,000 metres, according to Reuters news agency.
Hartmut Scherer, a spokesman for police at Frankfurt International Airport, said the women had become violent with flight attendants over Austria.
The 26-year-old woman is reported to have repeatedly tried to strike a flight attendant with a vodka bottle she had carried with her on the plane after the crew refused to serve the pair any more alcohol.
Reuters said she then tried, unsuccessfully, to unlatch a nearby cabin door.
"She evidently wanted to get some fresh air and tried to open the door, which obviously did not work," Mr Scherer is quoted as saying.
The women face charges of grievous bodily harm and violating air traffic regulations.
The plane later flew on to Manchester with a two-hour delay.
German media reported that the airline would charge the pair for the cost of the diversion."
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13768 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 13825 times:
Maybe security checks should include a breath test for alcohol intoxication.
Another case of boozed out pax acting stupid and putting others at risk. We seem to have more frequent incidents as to drunk pax and their bad behavior on board.
I do hope these two fools end up in jail and have to pay for the diversion and it gets lots of publicity to discourage it.
666Wizard From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 13801 times:
Any word on carrier?
When will people learn the sky is not a place to get drunk and throw a tantrum? This behaviour is unacceptable anywhere on the ground, and would merit a severe fine (at least) and possible jail, but in the sky (especially messing with the aircraft exits, if that is what happened) is bordering on madness. I am sure the legal books are being readied to be hurled at this pair.
Having said all that, we don't have all the details yet, but it looks (at the moment) like the media can use "air rage!" headlines with this one.
Wasn't there an incident in Australia where a sozzled passenger tried to open an exit to have a cigarette?
Dazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2962 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 13527 times:
Quoting Thorben (Reply 7): Things like this happen from time to time, but I am surprised they could bring a bottle of vodka in the cabin in an EU flight.
There aren't any restrictions on bringing bottles in to the cabin. They sell them onboard in anycase! As long as it's purchased past security, it's freely available to buy and trasport, ie duty free shopping (within duty free limits for import in to the UK).
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Mcr From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 13512 times:
Darren says it was an XL 737-900, and the incident was last Wednesday, which I have no reason to doubt - so I wonder why it's only hit the BBC news pages today? A case of one big airliner story (QF hole in 747) generating interest in related topics?
In true BBC fashion of course, earlier versions of the page were illustrated not with a 737 (of any model and/or airline) but a 744... a slightly different beast.
MadameConcorde From Monaco, joined Feb 2007, 11311 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 13247 times:
It is not because they were drunk that they should be excused of their rowdy behaviour raising all this trouble while on board the charter flight.
I hope the two brainless chicks (I have no other name for them) will be sent to court and will have to pay a hefty amount for the diversion. Make them pay. Example should be set with this so others won't be tempted do much of the same in the future.
Shuggie From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2007, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 13214 times:
I don't understand why so many people think that flying and inebriation go together hand in hand? Virtually every flight I get on these days seems to be made up of people who are drunk or are at least working on it (I've seen people knock back 3 or 4 drinks on the short hop EDI - BHX ). Personally I can't think of anything worse!
MillwallSean From Singapore, joined Apr 2008, 1387 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 13165 times:
Its nothing wrong with having a few drinks and then board a plane. But charters to Kos, Ios, Ibiza (perhaps to much drugs there so people are friendly instead) Ayia Napa etc are not your family-holiday destination. These incidents happens every summer and comes as no surprise to anyone involved.
Most teenagers, early 20:ies on their booze and sex trips down to the Mediterranean islands does this. I mean these girls have just come back from 1 or 2 weeks of constant drinking, dancing and screwing every Tom, Dick and Harry. When the bus picking them up from their hotel arrives they are usually in the bar having one last quick pint.
Even trying breath tests on these flights would mean riots.
Me being cynical, absolutely, I worked as a touroperator rep for two summers in my youth and that made me absolutely comvinced that my daughters will never ever be allowed down to the med as long as they stay in my house.
However you might wonder when airlines will stop hiring these flyweight flighattendents, stating their primary task is security, and replace them with any bouncer from South London.
That would sort this problem out and the only cost would be the added weight for the heavier flight attendant.
PilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 13117 times:
I know that the physical forces would not allow the opening of a door midflight, but maybe they could devise some sort of mechinism to allow it, to show these dumbasses what would happen if they actually got the door open. I am sure seeing someone fall to their death would discourage that behavior in the future.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13768 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 12958 times:
I and many others are somewhat serious about keeping off drunk/drugged persons off flights. What if there was an emergency on a flight (like with Qantas the other day) or upon landing where people had to escape quickly from a burning a/c (like with AF in Toronto 2 years ago)? Their drunkenness or being stoned could put them and other pax at risk.
I know myself, I have never had more than 1-2 beers or drinks before or during a longer air flight mainly as want to keep my wits about me in case something happens or not annoy others with my intoxication or get home safely.
Pax as boarding for whom appear to be intoxicated at a level where it would be illegal to drive a car on public roads could be given a quick test by airport or airline security with handheld devices like those used by police at checkpoints to screen for DWI's. I believe the A&E network program 'Airline' showed how Southwest handled possibly intoxicated/drugged pax from boarding. Their policies probably means a lot less problems and ops costs for them from such persons.
BFS From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 12840 times:
Quoting Baexecutive (Reply 2): Could you imagine being on this flight with this individual, this is why I don't fly Charter/LCC or economy for that matter LOL
Quoting GT4EZY (Reply 18): Are you having a laugh? Statistics prove that passengers travelling business/first cause as many such incidents as those down the back or on a LCC/Charter.
You took the words right out of my mouth. I have been told several times in training that that number of passengers who require the restraint kits to be used sat in Business or First Class outweighs that of those sat in economy.