L1011buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 112 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2038 times:
TZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1419 posts, RR: 9 Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1944 times:
Alright, somebody needs to fins out which aircraft this is if indeed it is an L-1011. With TZ gone, L-1011s are very rare in US airspace with the exception of the Las Vegas Sands bird and the Orbital rocket launcher.
474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1939 times:
Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9081 posts, RR: 34 Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1928 times:
No Tristar arrivals listed on flightaware, only three holers were:
Burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7411 posts, RR: 9 Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1905 times:
I'm not sure why the RAF Tristar or anyone going to the Mayo Clinic would use MSP since RST has a long enough runway 9,033 feet and since most of those planes are pretty empty. Also the mayo clinic is in RST.
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Nwaflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 130 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1904 times:
It was most certainly a L1011. A DC10 or MD11 look much different and it did not have the Fed Ex colors.
Again no offense but it looks strange because of the thrid hole. One like no other.
Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9081 posts, RR: 34 Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1893 times:
Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 4): More than likely it was an RAF TriStar.
That would explain the lack of Flightaware data.
Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 5): I'm not sure why the RAF Tristar or anyone going to the Mayo Clinic would use MSP since RST has a long enough runway 9,033 feet and since most of those planes are pretty empty. Also the mayo clinic is in RST.
May not have been for the Mayo Clinic. Especially the RAF bird, why would it be going there? A royal perhaps?
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Nwaflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 130 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1891 times:
Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 5): I'm not sure why the RAF Tristar or anyone going to the Mayo Clinic would use MSP since RST has a long enough runway 9,033 feet and since most of those planes are pretty empty. Also the mayo clinic is in RST.
Many people arrive in MSP to go to Mayo. Rich or not. It is only 50 minutes by car.
The late King of Jordan flew into MSP and he would go to Mayo while the others went to MOA.
Af773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2573 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1878 times:
I've seen the L-1011 at MSP two times. It goes to MSP for a fuel stop.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22024 posts, RR: 51 Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1871 times:
Could be an RAF L-1011 heading to/from Nellis. There is a Red Flag exercise currently in progress this week which does include a RAF fighter unit from Lakenheath air base.
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Nwaflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 130 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1857 times:
Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 9): I've seen the L-1011 at MSP two times. It goes to MSP for a fuel stop.
That would make sense. Thank you for the explaination.
474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 10 Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1545 times:
Quoting Nwaflyer (Reply 6): Again no offense but it looks strange because of the thrid hole. One like no other.
I think other aircraft, that don't have the third hole (actually that is the No. 2 engine) look strange!
Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 9): I've seen the L-1011 at MSP two times.
There are more than one L-1011, the RAF operates nine (9).
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 10): Could be an RAF L-1011 heading to/from Nellis. There is a Red Flag exercise currently in progress this week which does include a RAF fighter unit from Lakenheath air base.
AAH732UAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1478 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13): s far as I know, the RAF no longer use their L1011s for VIP use, just for carrying troops and (for those so-equipped) inflight refuelling.
Not an expert on this but i think that is not true. I saw an RAF L1011 at IAD a few months back sitting on one of the Remote stands. The A310 from Canada was also there. They parked in the stands that Vision use w/ their 767s for the CIA.
Cbphoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1506 posts, RR: 6 Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1478 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 10): Could be an RAF L-1011 heading to/from Nellis. There is a Red Flag exercise currently in progress this week which does include a RAF fighter unit from Lakenheath air base.
Willing to bet thats it! My guess its more likely a customs thing then a fuel stop! Nellis, or most Air Force bases do not have customs, so they have to stop at a place where customs can clear them. MSP is a pretty common stop for the RAF and over the years I have seen VC-10s, L-1011s and dozens of C-130s come through! Hope this helps!!
Alphaomega From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 532 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1471 times:
It was an RAF L-1011 - it went over the the ANG side of the airfield.
Avro7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 45 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1438 times:
474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 10 Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1318 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13): As far as I know, the RAF no longer use their L1011s for VIP use, just for carrying troops and (for those so-equipped) inflight refuelling.
All the RAF TriStars can and do carry passengers. Naturally the three passenger aircraft do and the two tankers have airline style seats still installed and the four tanker/freighters have airline seats on pallets that can be installed if they are needed.
Quoting AAH732UAL (Reply 14): Not an expert on this but i think that is not true. I saw an RAF L1011 at IAD a few months back sitting on one of the Remote stands.
The 216 Squadron never flew VIP flights when I worked with them, but that was several years ago.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21462 posts, RR: 24 Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1299 times:
Quoting 474218 (Reply 18): Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13):
As far as I know, the RAF no longer use their L1011s for VIP use, just for carrying troops and (for those so-equipped) inflight refuelling.
All the RAF TriStars can and do carry passengers. Naturally the three passenger aircraft do and the two tankers have airline style seats still installed and the four tanker/freighters have airline seats on pallets that can be installed if they are needed.
Yes I was aware of that. I was referring to the speculation that it might be carrying a "Royal". I'm almost certain they haven't been using those aircraft to carry members of the Royal Family for quite a while, and even the Prime Minister had been using chartered BA aircraft for his foreign trips until recently. I believe he now has to use other chartered business jets since BA can't spare the aircraft since they lost the 777 at LHR a few months ago.
ZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3247 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1278 times:
Quoting Cbphoto (Reply 15): Nellis, or most Air Force bases do not have customs, so they have to stop at a place where customs can clear them.
Every USAF base I've ever been to has some sort of program for customs... They might have to call ahead to make sure an agent is available but customs can defintiely be handled on base.
More likely Nellis wouldn't let them RON as everybody tries to leave or arrive at the same time for Red Flag... Also seeing as how USAF charges near commercial rates for fuel, with none of the FBO perks, the crew may have had other reasons to RON elsewhere...
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AirlineBrat From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 634 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1266 times:
Quoting 474218 (Reply 18): All the RAF TriStars can and do carry passengers. Naturally the three passenger aircraft do and the two tankers have airline style seats still installed and the four tanker/freighters have airline seats on pallets that can be installed if they are needed.
Doesn't the RAF carry passengers on their TriStars down to the Falklands? Not sure if civilians are allowed on those flights. I remember reading something about it during one of my hours long Wikipedia expeditions. Well, with a quick search, here you go....
"The Falkland Islands has two airports with paved runways. RAF Mount Pleasant, thirty miles west of Stanley, acts as the main international airport, with flights operated by the Royal Air Force to RAF Brize Norton in Oxfordshire, England via a refuelling stop at RAF Ascension Island. RAF flights are on TriStars although it is common for charter aircraft to be used if the TriStars are required for operational flights. At present the RAF air link is operated by Omni Air International, using DC-10s. Weekly flights are also available to/from Santiago, Chile, operated by LAN Airlines." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands
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