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KLEB: Colgan/USX Out, Cape Air In  
User currently offlineKearnet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 230 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 5 months 3 days ago) and read 2391 times:

Well as fun at it was to see the S340s in LEB, I knew it wouldn't last.

As per todays Boston Globe and Valley News articles' , USX (Colgan) flights to LGA will cease and Cape Air will come in with service to BOS.

The biggest surprise will be how "Affordable" the fares will be at $54/ave one way (Compared to the current $160/ave one way to LGA. I'm definitely going to try it out.

Cape air is proposing 4 to 6 flight daily.

What I would love to see is this route become one of the B6 Code share routes.

LINK to Article: http://www.boston.com/news/local/new...t_to_begin_regular_boston_flights/

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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days ago) and read 2387 times:

Interesting development. I always thought it was weird that LEB was served only from LGA and not any US (official) hub. I guess BOS will be better for LEB, but the question is, will US still have some sort of codeshare presence on these flights?

And $54 one way isn't bad, not too much more than a train out there.



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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3420 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2285 times:

9K has interline agreements with most of the major carriers. Although it won't necessarily have a US code on the flight, passengers can still book seamless travel in/out of LEB on US (and DL, AA, NW, UA, CO, etc.). 9K does code-share with CO and B6, but it looks like neither has been announced for LEB service at this point.

User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4287 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2241 times:

And with LEB's free parking combined with the insane cost of parking at BOS, it will actually be cheaper for many people to fly to BOS to connect rather than drive to BOS and park their own car. I pretty much guarantee you I'll be using these flights in October and December.

Texan



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User currently offlineBomber996 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2124 times:

Atleast LEB didnt loose service all together. With PSM having no more service after the shut down of Skybus, that would have left MHT as the only airport in NH with commercial air service.

Cape Air seemes to be filling a niche now with all the new service from BOS. RUT used to be served by Colgan Continental Express way back when, and now only Cape Air flies there. Seemes LEB has the same case.

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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2023 times:

I'm gonna miss the Saabs, it was a fun ride off of LEB's runway, but at least Cape Air you can afford without having to break the bank (or miles balance). The only cheap way to get out of LEB with US was to BWI; (it was cheaper than LGA, as they were sort of matching WN out of MHT)

-A



What now?
User currently offlineNbgskygod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1996 times:

The city of Lebanon really needs to wake up and smell the roses. The airport is a potential gold mine, especially in this market, but they refuse to make any changes to the airport that are for the better. They were charging Colgan a $600 per landing fee, to pay for the fire department to man the crash truck. The city wants $8,000-$10,000 per month to lease the restaurant space in the terminal building. nobody is actively seeking out another carrier to come in to add additional service from LEB to somewhere else. Now the city council wants to shorten 7/25 by a 1000' and runway 18 by a 1000', but because of terrain 36 cannot be expanded to compensate so we will loose all of the biz jet traffic that we do get (and that keeps us in business) to MHT or BTV.


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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1938 times:

$8000 - $10000 a month is wayy too much for a restaurant at that small terminal.

I just can't see another carrier that would want to start LEB, other than Cape Air.



What now?
User currently offlineNBGSkyGod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1886 times:



Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 7):
just can't see another carrier that would want to start LEB, other than Cape Air.

With the price of gas now hovering around $4 a gallon, driving the hour to MHT or the hour and a half to BTV is becoming very expensive. With a large population with-in about 30 minutes of LEB, there is potential for decent loads to cities with decent connections and limited delays such as CLE, CVG, or DTW.

As it is right now our main draw for traffic is Dartmouth College bizjets. I think the airport needs to do more to promote itself, advertise the airfares, maybe even bring back the airshow.



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User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2264 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1857 times:



Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 5):
I'm gonna miss the Saabs, it was a fun ride off of LEB's runway, but at least Cape Air you can afford without having to break the bank (or miles balance).

On Cape Air, one lucky passenger gets to sit in the co pilot's seat, except on the rare occasions when the pilot is receiving a check ride.

Definitely much more fun than being on a Saab 340!



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User currently offlineBomber996 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1823 times:



Quoting Nbgskygod (Reply 6):
The city of Lebanon really needs to wake up and smell the roses. The airport is a potential gold mine, especially in this market, but they refuse to make any changes to the airport that are for the better. They were charging Colgan a $600 per landing fee, to pay for the fire department to man the crash truck. The city wants $8,000-$10,000 per month to lease the restaurant space in the terminal building. nobody is actively seeking out another carrier to come in to add additional service from LEB to somewhere else. Now the city council wants to shorten 7/25 by a 1000' and runway 18 by a 1000', but because of terrain 36 cannot be expanded to compensate so we will loose all of the biz jet traffic that we do get (and that keeps us in business) to MHT or BTV.

What would this do to the control tower at LEB. With the loss of service because of the runway being shortened could it mean the end to ATC in LEB. If they do this it would mean that the three nearest airports for these jets to fly in and out of would be RUT, MPV, LCI, and CON, effectively putting Signal Aviation at LEB out of business.

Should get interesting.

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User currently offlineTDubJFK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1756 times:

What a total shame. Back in the day (WAY back), LEB saw Northeast Airlines DC-9 and FH-227s - and after the merger, DL even continued the DC-9's for a bit into LEB; Air New England used FH-227s, Business Express used SF-340s and SH-360s, USAir Express even served PHL, LGA, etc with a combination of Saabs and 1900s .... now to be down to Cape Air Cesspool .... pretty sad.

User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1995 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

I think it would be great for LEB. The only thing I don't like is that 9K flies those tiny Cessnas. LEB would make a pretty good gateway to the White Mountains though. It's a lot closer to the slopes than MHT is. I wonder if B6 will codeshare, as their flights to Upstate New York don't have it yet. Maybe that will change soon?


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User currently offlineNbgskygod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 17 hours ago) and read 1683 times:



Quoting Bomber996 (Reply 10):
What would this do to the control tower at LEB.

Our funding is based on traffic. Right now we are totally funded by the FAA, but as traffic goes down, more funding will be required by the city. Unless they find a way to attract the smaller planes to LEB, the tower will eventually close.



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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 16 hours ago) and read 1673 times:

I know gas is $4 a gallon; and I know there's a population base there, but I don't think LEB-CLE would work. Fuel is wayy too expensive for a route like that to work on an RJ. Look at markets like SLE-SLC (which DL recently pulled out of). They were pulling a decent yield, but it was still cheaper to fly them out of PDX on larger aircraft.

-A



What now?
User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2264 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1574 times:

If you want to see how much fun you'll have on Cape Air, click this link to view my Cape Air trip report:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/131190/



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