Asa_737 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 82 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 893 times:
You better check into working for two carriers at the same time. I work for Alaska Airlines and would be fired on the spot if I worked for any other airlines. It doesnt even matter if we compete with that carrier. I find it very hard to believe that you would be able to work for both United and Delta (altought that would be great). But make sure to check your employment contract so you dont lose the opportunity of working for an airline.
Purdue Arrow From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1574 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 861 times:
While it's great that you were offered a position with United, I would strongly recommend that you refer to Delta's HRPM 1000.2, paragraph 3:
"Employment with any for-profit company that engages in scheduled transportation of persons or property by aircraft (except Delta) is considered to be a conflict of interest and is prohibited."
There is no mention in the HRPM that such employment is acceptable as long as you are in a different department. I would highly recommend against publicizing your acceptance of this offer, should you choose to accept it.
QantasA330 From Iraq, joined Dec 2000, 306 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 834 times:
UA + DL??? Sounds like you've got your work cut out for ya... Well, there is no doubting that being part of the UA ramp crew will be an awesome job...
DeltaSFO: The problem you have is are you allowed to do this???I've heard not... but I might be wrong.
I know you want to be a pilot, and there is no better way to get brownie points for a right-seat, than working down on the ground... Employers realize that YOU, the pilot, knows what the ground crew is going through... The employer (be it UA or DL) will also realize that you are familiar with UA/DL issues and procedures. This will MORE than help you in the long run.
Flyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 777 times:
Aside from possibly not being allowed, I could see this as unappealing due to the fact that your weekends will not always match up for the respective airlines. You will also slowly climb the senority ladder as I assume you're only going to be part time at each airline.
Coboeing777 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 693 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 763 times:
I work for CO, we were told we can't work for any other AIRLINES that transport PEOPLE. To an airline, that would be a conflict of interest. However, I know tons of people that work with me at CO by day and work for either FedEx or UPS at the airport. But like I said, those are not PEOPLE moving airlines. Now I don't see why those rules would be different for any of the other US majors, but hey, I could be wrong, but I highly doubt it.
DL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2040 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 753 times:
Sorry DeltaSFO but working for another airline in whatever capacity IS considered a conflict of interest by DL HR. I guess you have a decision to make. Who's basket do you want to throw all of your eggs?
Vngd4me From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 238 posts, RR: 5 Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 754 times:
I was going to agree with most of you, at my airline and at most of the others I've heard of this is usually strictly prohibited due to as said above "conflict of intrest." Make sure both carriers don't have such a rule.
If not COOL, more power to you & I would definitely do it if possible.
DL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2040 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 753 times:
Sorry DeltaSFO, working for another airline in whatever capacity IS considered a conflict of interest by DL HR. I guess you have a decision to make. In which basket will you throw all your eggs? Quite frankly, I'm amazed that UA offered you a job with knowing full well that you intended on keeping your DL job (unless you failed to mention that fact to the UA personnel rep). I would imagine their HR policy is similar to DL's.
DL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2040 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 738 times:
I admire your fierce loyalty to DL even though your are relatively new to the the DL family. However, UA might be a better fit for you considering your West Coast domicile. Also, UA's SFO hub operation may afford better opportunities for advancement without having to move. On the other hand, If UA completes their aquisition of US, then I would imagine that there would be quite a few redundancies and usually how it works in the airline industry is the last in are the first out. That having been said, I hope you decide to stay with DL.
Transat1011 From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 113 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 733 times:
Well, although DeltaSFo found out that his jobs were in conflict, I am questioning myself about the ground handling at the airports. I personally work for Air Transat in YUL (with Air France, RAM and Egyptair as clients). In my case, there is no real competition between these carriers, so I guess everything is fine. But in YUL, Air Canada handles (LH), (UA), SR, SN and CSA Czech. And even BA a few months back. I mean, can we consider that a conflict of interest when AC agents are customer service agents for with SR, SN and BA (their main transatlantic competitors out of Montreal)? Where does the conflict of interest start ?
DL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2040 posts, RR: 5 Reply 21, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 718 times:
I think the conflict starts with where one derives their monetary compensation for services rendered. In the situation you descibed above (Transat1011) it seems like your company is providing a service to those other airlines for which Air Transat is being compensated, not you. You are simply the employee doing his job; therefore no conflict. But, if this agreement did not exist between Air Transat and those other airlines and you were independantly employed by LH, UA, or SR, as well as Air Transat, then the airline can decry a conflict exists and that their (Air Transat's) proprietary information is at risk. I don't particularly like or even agree with this rule. I think it's a little "cold warrish" and archaic but, whaddya goin do?
Dc-9-10 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 583 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 698 times:
Hey if you do get transfered to ATL you will do tickets right. But if some case came up and you get to work at the coperate offices you might be able to work with my uncle Rick Gough who is the Head or close to the Head of the Security department for Delta.