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User currently offlineCHI787ORD From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 517 posts, RR: 4
Posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8024 times:

I was just wondering what the rankings were for US airlines' service to Canada. I know UA traditionally has had the most service and destinations, but what about the other airlines?

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User currently offlineJamesontheroad From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7983 times:

Someone else will have to follow up with frequencies etc, but in terms of Canadian airports currently served, I believe...

AA:

YYC
YVR
YYZ
YUL

CO:

YYC
YVR
YHZ
YYZ

DL:

YVR
YYZ

NW:

YYC
YEG
YWG
YYZ
YUL

UA:

YYC
YYZ
YVR

US:

YYC
YEG
YVR
YYZ


User currently offlinePowercube From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7978 times:

YEG gets OO operating as both DL and UA. We also get QX  Smile

User currently offline744 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7972 times:

I would fly Air Canada anyday than any US Airline. I love Air Canada.

User currently offlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 937 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7980 times:

You're missing several United cities...at least 5 missing.

User currently offlineSeatback From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 765 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7967 times:

Doesn't AA have the largest market share of the US airlines to Canada?

User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5939 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7937 times:



Quoting Joeljack (Reply 4):
You're missing several United cities...at least 5 missing.

Those three cities are it for UA mainline actually, if you count Express into the mix UA flies to 10 cities:

YYZ Mainline
YVR Mainline
YYC Mainline
YEG
YWG
YOW
YUL
YHX
YYJ
YXE - starts Septermber 13th



Semper Fi - PowerPoint makes us stupid.
User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7936 times:

Here's some more if memory serves me well,

NW

YXE
YQR
YQT
YXU?
YYG

DL

YYC
YUL

CO

YYT
YUL


User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1614 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7897 times:

NWA/Airlink goes to YYG, YHZ, YUL, YYZ, YQB, YOW, YKF, YXU, YQT, YWG, YXE, YQR, YYC, YEG, and YVR.


Hey Swifty
User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6465 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7865 times:



Quoting Jamesontheroad (Reply 1):
NW:

YYC
YEG
YWG
YYZ
YUL

A bit off for NWA, the fly to the following Canada cities (some seasonal)
Vancouver
Calgary
Edmonton
Saskatoon
Regina
Winnipeg
Thunder Bay
Kitchener
Ottawa
London
Toronto
Montreal
Quebec
Halifax
Charlottetown

If they aren't the largest US carrier in Canada they have to be close.


User currently offlineMisbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7846 times:

I think Delta does all of these: YVR, YUL, YOW, YYC, YEG, YHZ, YFC, YYZ, YYG

User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7830 times:



Quoting Seatback (Reply 5):
Doesn't AA have the largest market share of the US airlines to Canada?



Quoting CHI787ORD (Thread starter):
I know UA traditionally has had the most service and destinations, but what about the other airlines?

NW is the strongest US airline to Canada in terms of destinations and seats. AA IIRC, is one of the weakest to Canada.


User currently offlineAC888YOW From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 531 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7830 times:



Quoting Jamesontheroad (Reply 1):

Are you talking mainline only? YOW is absent from your list yet is served by every one of those airlines via regional subsidiaries.

Here's how the frequencies measure up at YOW in order from most to least daily departures:

UA: 5x ORD and 3x IAD
CO: 4x EWR and 2x CLE (terminating this fall)
US: 3x PHL
AA: 3x ORD
NW: 3x DTW
DL: 2x ATL (terminating this fall)


User currently offlineFlyb From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7816 times:

Yeap NWA hands down is the biggest.

UAL tries in the bigger centres.


User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1614 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7792 times:

Because I'm bored, here's NWA's Canadian schedule as of tomorrow, 7-30.

YYG 1x DTW (9E CRJ)
YHZ 2x DTW (9E CRJs)
YQB 2x DTW (9E CRJs)
YUL 4x DTW (3 XJ CR9s, 1 D95) 1x MSP (9E CRJ)
YOW 3x DTW (9E CRJs)
YYZ 5x DTW (1 9E CRJ, 5 D9S) 4x MSP (2 9E CRJs 1 D9S 1 D95) 2x MEM (2 9E CRJs)
YKF 3x DTW (XJ SF3s)
YXU 4x DTW (XJ SF3s)
YQT 2x MSP (XJ SF3s)
YWG 5x MSP (1 9E CRJ, 3 D9S, 1 320)
YXE 2x MSP (CP E75s)
YQR 2x MSP (CP E75s)
YYC 3x MSP (320s)
YEG 2x MSP (320s)
YVR 3x MSP (4x on Sat) (320s) 1x DTW (320) 1x MEM (320)



Hey Swifty
User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7539 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7792 times:



Quoting CHI787ORD (Thread starter):
I know UA traditionally has had the most service and destinations

Not even close. United has not even been in that department for years now.

Quoting 744 (Reply 3):
I would fly Air Canada anyday than any US Airline. I love Air Canada.

This has to do with what on the topic?



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7792 times:



Quoting KingAir200 (Reply 14):
Because I'm bored, here's NWA's Canadian schedule as of tomorrow, 7-30.

YYG 1x DTW (9E CRJ)
YHZ 2x DTW (9E CRJs)
YQB 2x DTW (9E CRJs)
YUL 4x DTW (3 XJ CR9s, 1 D95) 1x MSP (9E CRJ)
YOW 3x DTW (9E CRJs)
YYZ 5x DTW (1 9E CRJ, 5 D9S) 4x MSP (2 9E CRJs 1 D9S 1 D95) 2x MEM (2 9E CRJs)
YKF 3x DTW (XJ SF3s)
YXU 4x DTW (XJ SF3s)
YQT 2x MSP (XJ SF3s)
YWG 5x MSP (1 9E CRJ, 3 D9S, 1 320)
YXE 2x MSP (CP E75s)
YQR 2x MSP (CP E75s)
YYC 3x MSP (320s)
YEG 2x MSP (320s)
YVR 3x MSP (4x on Sat) (320s) 1x DTW (320) 1x MEM (320)

Combined with Delta's smaller Canadian network,this has got to be a big plus once both carriers merge and will certainly give Skyteam an excellent presence in Canada.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16862 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7695 times:

CO:

EWR-
Halifax 4 ERJ
Moncton 1 ERJ
Montreal 3 ERJ, 3 Q400
Mont-Tremblant 1 ERJ (seasonal)
Ottawa 4 ER3
Quebec City 2 ER3, 2 ERJ
Saint John's 1 737-300
Toronto 1 737-500, 2 737-700, 1 ERJ, 2 Q400
Vancouver 2 737-800

CLE-
Montreal 3 ERJ
Ottawa 2 ER3
Quebec City 1 ER3 (SA)
Toronto 3 ER3, 3 ERJ

IAH-
Calgary 1 737-700, 2 737-800
Toronto 1 737-500, 3 ERJ
Vancouver 1 737-700, 2 737-800



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineBA744PHX From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7658 times:

US serves
YYC mainline/express LAS, PHX
YEG mainline LAS, PHX
YVR mainline LAS, PHL, PHX
YYZ mainline/express CLT, LAS, PHL, PHX
YOW express PHL
YUL express CLT, PHL


User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 7599 times:



Quoting CHI787ORD (Thread starter):
know UA traditionally has had the most service and destinations, but what about the other airlines?

Northwest has.................US not AA is the smallest


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25205 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7484 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 19):
Quoting CHI787ORD (Thread starter):
know UA traditionally has had the most service and destinations, but what about the other airlines?

Northwest has........

NW has served the most points in Canada of any U.S. airline for many years. They celebrated the 80th anniversary of their first international route, MSP-YWG (with a couple of stops) earlier this year.

UA's only international) route for many years was SEA-YVR. I think it started in 1934. They didn't add another international destination until sometime in the late '60s or early '70s when they got ORD-YYZ rights alongside AA. I think that was the first Canada-U.S. route with two U.S. carriers.


User currently offlineBakersdozen From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 336 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7482 times:

Didn't see it posted but YYC also gets Horizon/Alaskan. I think YVR does too

User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7441 times:



Quoting 9252fly (Reply 16):
Combined with Delta's smaller Canadian network,this has got to be a big plus once both carriers merge and will certainly give Skyteam an excellent presence in Canada.

DL/NW combined:

YYG 1x DTW (9E CRJ) 1x BOS (OH CRJ)

YHZ 2x DTW (9E CRJs) 1x BOS (OH CRJ) 1x JFK (OH CRJ)

YQB 2x DTW (9E CRJs)

YUL 4x DTW (3 XJ CR9s, 1 D95) 1x MSP (9E CRJ) 3x CVG (OH CRJs) 4x JFK (OH CRJs) 5x ATL (EV CR7s)

YOW 3x DTW (9E CRJs)

YYZ 5x DTW (1 9E CRJ, 5 D9S) 4x MSP (2 9E CRJs 1 D9S 1 D95) 2x MEM (2 9E CRJs) 6x ATL ( 3 EV CR7s, 1 EV CRJ, 2 M88s) 6x CVG (2 EV CRJs, 3 OH CRJs, 1 OH CR7) 4x JFK (4 OH CRJs)

YKF 3x DTW (XJ SF3s)

YXU 4x DTW (XJ SF3s)

YQT 2x MSP (XJ SF3s)

YWG 5x MSP (1 9E CRJ, 3 D9S, 1 320)

YXE 2x MSP (CP E75s)

YQR 2x MSP (CP E75s)

YYC 3x MSP (320s) 3x SLC (OO CRJs)

YEG 2x MSP (320s) 2x SLC (OO CRJs)

YVR 3x MSP (4x on Sat) (320s) 1x DTW (320) 1x MEM (320) 1x ATL (757) 3x SLC (2 OO CRJs, 1 OO CR9)



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25205 posts, RR: 22
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7435 times:



Quoting Bakersdozen (Reply 21):
Didn't see it posted but YYC also gets Horizon/Alaskan. I think YVR does too

Alaska/Horizon serve:

Vancouver (YVR)
Victoria (YYJ)
Calgary (YYC)
Edmonton (YEG)
Kelowna (YLW)
Prince George (YXS)

They had announced seasonal service next winter to Kamloops, British Columbia (YKA) but recently dropped that plan as part of their capacity cuts.


User currently offlineOasis From Canada, joined May 2008, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7193 times:

Frontier also flies into YVR, and same with NWA


Aeroflot can fly Moscow to LA, I bet your airline can only fly half way
25 EnviroTO : I believe that was true in the days of Canadian Airlines. I would be surprised if NW doesn't hold that title now.
26 Boeing744 : Yes, but Kamloops had had that seasonal service for years already. They even used Q400's sometimes to deal with the loads (although that could have b
27 WA707atMSP : ORD-YYZ was awarded to AA and UA in 1967. This was the first non stop from ORD to Canada flown by a US carrier, although Trans Canada / Air Canada ha
28 EXAAUADL : When did AA begin LGA-YYZ? Like 1940s wasnt it. DL didnt fly to YYZ for years until the 1990s I think. AC began YUL-ORD in 1967, and I think completel
29 Burnsie28 : Albeit seasonal now and rumor has it that it wont be coming back.
30 YULYMX : Us come to YUL from PHL and CLT
31 WA707atMSP : AA began LGA-YYZ in 1941. In the 1970s and 1980s, AA often used a DC-10 on the first LGA-YYZ flight of the day. DL did not begin YYZ until after EA's
32 CHI787ORD : hmm... I guess I just assumed UA had the most since they have a partnersship with AC.
33 Vfw614 : Which would also be a handy explanation why they have the least....
34 KGAIflyer : The AC / UA relationship is a very strong one. For instance, I've been involuntarily switched from UA metal to AC metal between DCA and YYC when a la
35 Viscount724 : There was a period in the late '70s or early '80s when AA had at least two daily DC-10s to YYZ, one from ORD and a nonstop from LAX. At that time:UA
36 Steex : Well, I tried to flip through the schedules and dig out all the Canadian routes served by the major US carriers. I don't have frequencies included and
37 Steex : Already found one. That should read IAH-YVR/YYC/YYZ.
38 EXAAUADL : MO use to fly ALB-YUL and BVT-YUL, I think the flights originated in NYC, probably EWR. US flew YUL-BUF and YUL-CLE, then later PIT, PHL and CLT. I d
39 YWG747 : YWG gets flights from NWA UA DL
40 STT757 : Eastern flew: Atlanta-Pittsburgh-Toronto Atlanta-Buffalo-Toronto Laguardia-Montreal Miami-Toronto Baltimore-Ottawa JFK-Ottawa PHL-Toronto PHL-Montrea
41 Viscount724 : One interesting route that NW operated for some time was MSP-YEG-ANC, a domestic service between two U.S. cities with an intermediate stop in another
42 EXAAUADL : EA also flew JFK-YUL, like once per day. The other 5 or so flights were to LGA. I think there might have been a YOW-YUL tag in the early 1970s. didnt
43 EXAAUADL : When did AC move their YUL and YYZ flghts from JFK to LGA?
44 Jamincan : Interesting. Would passengers boarding in MSP or ANC and heading for the other have to clear customs on arrival then?
45 YULYMX : Delta still fly BOS-YUL-BOS
46 Flyyul : No they dont
47 Steex : MEM-YVR is flown Summer only (and Saturday only at that) on a 320.
48 STT757 : Probably the exact time the prescreening stations were established at YUL and YYZ.
49 YULYMX : WOW i am suprised... use to be B767 and L1011 with big frequency...in the 80's... to zero flight ... and go to CVG instead...crazy
50 EXAAUADL : What year was that does anyone know? I just assumed that there was laways preclearence in YUL and YYZ.
51 RamperYHZ : Also DL ATL-YHZ Saturday only in the summer.
52 Chugach : Until last year, AS did SFO-YVR-ANC in the summers.
53 GhYHZ : In the mid to late 1980s, EA (Eastern Express (Bar Harbor Airlines) had routes between BOS-PWM-YHZ and BOS-BGR-YSJ. Then beginning in the spring of 19
54 EXAAUADL : Which commuter airlines have served Canada from the US? Pilgrim flew from BDL-YUL with BE9s and F27s Empire flew SYR-YUL with SWMs. I think they might
55 WA707atMSP : Remember, passengers pre clear US Customs before boarding in YEG, and don't clear customs on arrival in the US, so through passengers wouldn't have n
56 NorthStarDC4M : First Air flew charters to the US from YOW, YUL, YYZ and probably some others, but stopped those in the late 90s Empire flew at various times SYR-YOW
57 EXAAUADL : I know US has evaluated PHL-YHZ, but never flown it. I was told it looed good in the summer only
58 Ramprat74 : UA has been growing quietly at YVR over the last couple of years. This summers schedule has 17 departures a day. This is more then a lot of mainline U
59 Jamincan : I know one of Continental's feeder airlines used to operate a hub in ALB, and they operated both ALB-YUL and ALB-YOW. They may have also flown to YYZ
60 Viscount724 : And F27s before the F28s. I flew a Pilgrim F27 once JFK-YOW, probably in the early 1980s.
61 Viscount724 : I'm not sure YEG had preclearance when NW operated that route which I believe ended sometime in the early 1970s. If memory correct they were using a
62 Commavia : AA is definitely the largest U.S. airline to Canada, at least when you add in American Eagle. Together, AA and Eagle have 32,731 seats/week between th
63 Jamincan : I actually researched that a bit, and YEG received preclearance in 1979, a lot earlier than I expected initially, but it sounds like it would have be
64 Bobnwa : Sometimes I my memory isn't perfect, but I do not remember NWA having any 727-100C combis.
65 AirportPlan : United/United Express is by far the largest U.S. carrier to Canada. The data below excludes any AC code shares. Al Aug08 Flights Aug08 Seats Aug08 ASM
66 EXAAUADL : According to above even AA is nearly 2x larger than NW, that doesnt seem correct.
67 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : NW was actually the launch customer for the 727-100C. They took delivery of 12 between 1966 and 1968. Registered N488US through N499US. Sold in 1981-
68 Commavia : Very surprising, but indeed you are correct - my mistake. I did not expect that - I thought AA was still #1 in seats to Canada, but when I ran the nu
69 SLCUT2777 : Interesting to see where AC and WS fit into the trans-border seat offerings. It will also be interesting to watch the WN/WS partnership evolve and se
70 Viscount724 : Actually, DL has dropped 5 of the 7 transborder routes Western was operating at the time of the merger. YVR-PDX YVR-SFO YVR-LAX YYC-LAX YYC-DEN The o
71 SLCUT2777 : Western was in the process of re-routing most of such routes to the SLC hub during the mid-1980s when the merger with DL came down. It was DL that co
72 Viscount724 : I'm pretty sure DL used the 752 on at least one YYC-SLC nonstop for a while in the early '90s. I lived in YYC then and remember seeing them arrive an
73 SLCUT2777 : Being the pre-CRJ era it wouldn't surprise me. DL continued with LAX-Canada routes for some years into the 1990s, until their operation at LAX became
74 United1 : CO flew the route for a time while they were working on establishing a hub in HNL. Not bad for an airline that up until the early 90s only flew 5 rou
75 AirportPlan : [quote=United1,reply=74]What I find interesting is that even with Delta and Northwest combined, assuming no cuts, they are still smaller - cumulativel
76 KGAIflyer : And then there's Calgary where UA is far flung from both AC and the other American carriers, but ironically, near Westjet. United and Skywest share t
77 FLYjoe : After US picked up YOW from the PI merger, US' YOW service operated from BWI with F-28s, SYR with a DH8 that was part of a BWI-SYR-YOW run, and JFK w
78 WA707atMSP : The first US carrier to fly this route was - you guessed it - Western. WA started YVR-HNL in 1976, with DC-10s. WA also flew DC-10s on YVR-LAX. It's
79 Pboud0 : Wouldn't the AC UA relationship (with code shares) technically make UA the airline with the largest number of routes. I say this because I know that Y
80 Pnwtraveler : That is exactly what I was thinking was missing from this discussion. AA doesn't have a code share since the demise of Canadian. So AA has to carry a
81 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : II'm quite sure DL didn't operate YYC-ATL then. AA also inherited one 727-200 from Trans Caribbean, and a small number of DC-8s which AA sold. This i
82 AC183 : I remember watching the DL 757's arriving at YYC from SLC in the early '90's (it was at about the time the mezzanine level food court was added to the
83 Burnsie28 : That maybe, but sometimes I can book flights on UA through NW's website, and so forth just depending, Unless they fly their own metal there, IMO it d
84 AirportPlan : The OAG schedule data that I listed above is only for flights by each airline and their express partners on their own metal. I double checked the dat
85 Pboud0 : UA codeshares on most AC flights. Therefore AC having the largest transborder operations would technically make UA the US airline with the largest pr
86 SLCUT2777 : Another thank you to the leadership of Leo Mullin! But Viscount724 is very correct about DL using 752s on SLC-YYC once upon a time. My mother-in-law
87 Viscount724 : Even without including codeshares, I think it's already been established in other replies above that UA currently has the largest transborder capacit
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