OyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2575 posts, RR: 4 Posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2373 times:
I was reading Flight International this week. Parker will develop the fly-by-wire on the Cseries and says the Cseries is just the start, and in a 10 year time they will offer FBW on 4 platforms.
The one mentioned in the article is the Cseries. I guess the number two airplane platform is the new composite Learjet. But still there are two platforms that Bombardier are planning that I have not heard about. Do any of you now what kind of platforms this might be? I now nothing are firmed up yet, but what are the rumors? Just reasoning without any hard facts. Is it very possible that in a 10 year period BBD will have replaced the Q400 and CRJ with two new platforms? Is this ideal? IMHO the Q400 and CRJ could be replaced by the same platform. Both planes has 4 abreast seating, and it would be easy to offer the plane with either turboprops or jet engines. Even the next generation Global Express could be based on this platform, perhaps with a new wing. If my guess is true ( I am no engineer) that means there is still one platform that is not counted for.
Let the discussion begin. Please state if you actually now something, or if you like me are taking a none educated guess
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Tangowhisky From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 862 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2262 times:
Quoting OyKIE (Thread starter): Do any of you now what kind of platforms this might be?
My guess is that after the Cseries, they will put FBW on their larger business jets as well. BBD will need to do something about the G650, and the Cseries fuselage is a good starting point to make a better G650, with a faster wing, and FBW. Then there is the update of the GX, and eventually they will need to have a new platform for the 70-100 regional jet market to ensure they are competitive against the MRJ for the next two or three decades.
For smaller aircraft like the Lear family, I am not sure if there is a great deal of benefits going FBW as the weight savings of control cables, rods, links. pulleys on such a small aircraft are not dramatically high over two FBW computers. Maintenance costs are also not a big priority on business jets, so I think FBW will be for any plane weighing over 60,000 lbs.
Mrocktor From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1645 posts, RR: 51 Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2048 times:
Quoting OyKIE (Thread starter): and in a 10 year time they will offer FBW on 4 platforms
OyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2575 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2038 times:
Quoting Tangowhisky (Reply 1): BBD will need to do something about the G650, and the Cseries fuselage is a good starting point to make a better G650, with a faster wing, and FBW.
Would it be possible to match the current Global Express wing with the CSeries fuselage? If it shares the Cseries fuselage will it then be a new platform?
Quoting Keesje (Reply 2): Being discussed on tech-ops..
Cool plane Keesje
But being based means it will not be on an independent platform. Anyway. Why are the seats arranged in this way?
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TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4106 posts, RR: 13 Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2023 times:
Keesje,
I am surprised that on the Centiliner graphic the cockpit is on the right. Is there a reason for it, since we are all used to seeing the cockpits on the left (most of us read from left to right).
VC10DC10 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 960 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2007 times:
Keesje, this seems to be more-or-less the same spec as the jolly old Vickers Vanguard, Bristol Britannia, and Lockheed Electra. The more things change, the more they stay the same, as Yogi Berra said.
Tangowhisky From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 862 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1886 times:
Quoting OyKIE (Reply 6): Would it be possible to match the current Global Express wing with the CSeries fuselage? If it shares the Cseries fuselage will it then be a new platform?
The Global Express is considered a new platform because of its wing, but the fuselage is the same 8 feet 10 inch diameter as the Challenger/CRJ.
But the idea is to put on a similar high speed wing as the GX, with probably a different nose.
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