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BBD To Offer 4 New Platforms Within 10 Years  
User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2727 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3241 times:

I was reading Flight International this week. Parker will develop the fly-by-wire on the Cseries and says the Cseries is just the start, and in a 10 year time they will offer FBW on 4 platforms.

The one mentioned in the article is the Cseries. I guess the number two airplane platform is the new composite Learjet. But still there are two platforms that Bombardier are planning that I have not heard about. Do any of you now what kind of platforms this might be? I now nothing are firmed up yet, but what are the rumors? Just reasoning without any hard facts. Is it very possible that in a 10 year period BBD will have replaced the Q400 and CRJ with two new platforms? Is this ideal? IMHO the Q400 and CRJ could be replaced by the same platform. Both planes has 4 abreast seating, and it would be easy to offer the plane with either turboprops or jet engines. Even the next generation Global Express could be based on this platform, perhaps with a new wing. If my guess is true ( I am no engineer) that means there is still one platform that is not counted for.


Let the discussion begin. Please state if you actually now something, or if you like me are taking a none educated guess  Smile


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User currently offlineTangowhisky From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 908 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3130 times:



Quoting OyKIE (Thread starter):
Do any of you now what kind of platforms this might be?

My guess is that after the Cseries, they will put FBW on their larger business jets as well. BBD will need to do something about the G650, and the Cseries fuselage is a good starting point to make a better G650, with a faster wing, and FBW. Then there is the update of the GX, and eventually they will need to have a new platform for the 70-100 regional jet market to ensure they are competitive against the MRJ for the next two or three decades.

For smaller aircraft like the Lear family, I am not sure if there is a great deal of benefits going FBW as the weight savings of control cables, rods, links. pulleys on such a small aircraft are not dramatically high over two FBW computers. Maintenance costs are also not a big priority on business jets, so I think FBW will be for any plane weighing over 60,000 lbs.



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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3112 times:

Maybe a short haul hundred seater. NAL and ATR are also studying it.

Rolls and GE are working on 8000hp turboshafts.

Being discussed on tech-ops..



User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 962 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3103 times:

Centiliner: Moving at the speed of smell

* rimshot *  Wink


User currently offlineIcna05e From France, joined Feb 2006, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3049 times:

Hey Keesje this centiliner looks great! It must fly sometime.

User currently offlineMrocktor From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1668 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2916 times:



Quoting OyKIE (Thread starter):
and in a 10 year time they will offer FBW on 4 platforms

They = BBD or they = Parker?


User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2727 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2906 times:



Quoting Tangowhisky (Reply 1):
BBD will need to do something about the G650, and the Cseries fuselage is a good starting point to make a better G650, with a faster wing, and FBW.

Would it be possible to match the current Global Express wing with the CSeries fuselage? If it shares the Cseries fuselage will it then be a new platform?

Quoting Keesje (Reply 2):
Being discussed on tech-ops..

Cool plane Keesje Smile

But being based means it will not be on an independent platform. Anyway. Why are the seats arranged in this way?



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4393 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2891 times:

Keesje,
I am surprised that on the Centiliner graphic the cockpit is on the right. Is there a reason for it, since we are all used to seeing the cockpits on the left (most of us read from left to right).


User currently offlineVC10DC10 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1035 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2875 times:

Keesje, this seems to be more-or-less the same spec as the jolly old Vickers Vanguard, Bristol Britannia, and Lockheed Electra. The more things change, the more they stay the same, as Yogi Berra said.

Would there be a four-engine variant as well?  Smile


User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1624 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2819 times:

TK787...

Take a closer look, thats the forward lavatory you are looking at! (the cockpit area is actually not defined)



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User currently offlineTangowhisky From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 908 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2754 times:



Quoting OyKIE (Reply 6):
Would it be possible to match the current Global Express wing with the CSeries fuselage? If it shares the Cseries fuselage will it then be a new platform?

The Global Express is considered a new platform because of its wing, but the fuselage is the same 8 feet 10 inch diameter as the Challenger/CRJ.

But the idea is to put on a similar high speed wing as the GX, with probably a different nose.



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