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First Emirates A380 Flight To JFK  
User currently offlineHaan From South Africa, joined Aug 2004, 289 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 22607 times:

Hi all JFK spotters

Tomorrow is the day u all have been waiting for.
The first scheduled A380 flight to USA will touch down on your soil tomorrow afternoon.

Emirates will launch the inaugural A380 flight between Dubai and JFK with A6-EDA
Here are the following scheduled times.
DXB 1100LT ARR DXB 1645LT
Current flying time is quick, so suggest u get there as early at 1600LT

Hope to see lots of pictures.
Rgds
Haan

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User currently offlineJayhup From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 452 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 22391 times:

Here's hoping for a 31L arrival.

But given the afternoon weather these days I doubt it.

I would like to see that behemoth do a Canarsie approach....

JH


User currently offlineEK156 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2005, 765 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 22216 times:

Is all ready for the arrival of the A 380? Are the gates at JFK ready?

What does EK have instore for all the JFK passengers.... I bet you there will be a grand celebration!!!!

Does anyone have any info on the preparations at JFK?


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 22193 times:
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Quoting Jayhup (Reply 1):
Here's hoping for a 31L arrival.

Why?! 31L means the Firestone location is worthless for shooting! The Canarsie approach is 13L, if that's what you meant...

I'm hoping for 22L, but the way the winds are forecast it looks like the 31s. Hopefully 31R if that's the case!

TIS



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User currently offlineHaan From South Africa, joined Aug 2004, 289 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 21229 times:

Ok so EK3801 is on its way to JFK now.
ETA is 16:23LT


Cheers
Haan


User currently offlineAT From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1043 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 21072 times:

Flightaware is listing at 4:32 currently-- I am so excited
Does anyone know what the runway configuration is currently?
And would it change between now and 4:30?


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3305 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 21029 times:
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13L/31R is closed which is bad, bad news if they're on the 31s. There's only one good place to see it from for 31L and the light is tough. I'm hoping for 22L and from the wind forecast this looks likely. I'll keep checking ATIS and the NOTAMS until right before I mobilize.

TIS



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User currently offlineHaan From South Africa, joined Aug 2004, 289 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 20951 times:

Ok EK3801 had to slow down not to be to early into JFK.

New ETA is 16H35LT

Weather looks great
Latest Metar reads 03009KT 10SM FEW060 SCT250 29/16 A2971


User currently offlineAT From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1043 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 20841 times:

As an aside I'm curious why they chose JFK as over LHR as their inaugural route for the A380.

May be this will add more publicity for Emirates in the US?


User currently offlineClydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 20775 times:



Quoting AT (Reply 8):
As an aside I'm curious why they chose JFK as over LHR as their inaugural route for the A380.

Maybe because SIA already were first with the 380 into LHR and they wanted a "First" into somewhere high profile.


User currently offlineHaan From South Africa, joined Aug 2004, 289 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 20674 times:



Quoting AT (Reply 8):
As an aside I'm curious why they chose JFK as over LHR as their inaugural route for the A380.

May be this will add more publicity for Emirates in the US?

Emirates will be the first operator of the A380 into North America.

Thit raises another Question???
Who will be the first to operate the A380 to Africa, South America

Singapore now have Australia, Europe and Asia
Emirates have North America.


User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 20416 times:

Flightaware doesn't show its route  Sad. I was hoping for the ENE4 arrival so i could catch a glipse over the island.

User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8373 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 20373 times:



Quoting Haan (Reply 10):
Who will be the first to operate the A380 to Africa, South America

Africa most definitely Emirates. S.America I'd say either AF or LH.


User currently offlinePilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 20117 times:

How did they get thier crews prepared so quickly? Didn't it take Singapore quite a while after the delivery to start scheduled flights?


Booooo Lois, Yaaaa Beer!!!
User currently offlineLOT767SP-LPA From Poland, joined May 2002, 157 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19332 times:

I saw that bird over my city, which is Warsaw in Poland, at 14.40 local time, was amasing  Smile

User currently offlineDbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 887 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19206 times:



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 3):


Quoting Jayhup (Reply 1):
Here's hoping for a 31L arrival.

Why?! 31L means the Firestone location is worthless for shooting! The Canarsie approach is 13L, if that's what you meant...

VOR 13L is the approach and they use a lot. CRI is the Final Approach Fix. Definately one of my favorite approaches to fly.


User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4682 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19087 times:



Quoting PilotNTrng (Reply 13):
How did they get thier crews prepared so quickly? Didn't it take Singapore quite a while after the delivery to start scheduled flights?

IIRC the first route proving flight with EK crew took place more than a year ago. But I think they also did such flights in the weeks before delivery.



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineAT From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1043 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19041 times:

When will Emirates get their second A380, and will it also be used on the New York route?
Without a second frame, the JFK flight could not operate daily with one 380.

Also, unrelated question, are there any penalties on the DXB-JFK route or can the A380 handle it with a full payload?


A still unrelated comment, the A380 is a stupendous aircraft, but I have to say the nose region is nothing short of ugly... T


User currently offlineSfilipowicz From Netherlands, joined Jul 2002, 327 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 18815 times:

When will it depart and what will the flightnumber be?

User currently offlineBOACVC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 613 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 18789 times:



Quoting Haan (Reply 7):
Ok EK3801 had to slow down not to be to early into JFK.

New ETA is 16H35LT

Weather looks great
Latest Metar reads 03009KT 10SM FEW060 SCT250 29/16 A2971

Which ATC center should we listen to for JFK arrivals on the internet ? Could someone please provide a URL to the particular frequency that would cover the period of arrival ?

I would appreciate it if someone could explain the arrival process for this first A388 commercial flight into JFK. The big question I have is, what will JFK ops call the aircraft other than Emirates 3801?

BOACVC10



Up, up and Away!
User currently offlineFlexo From St. Helena, joined Mar 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 18689 times:



Quoting BOACVC10 (Reply 19):
Which ATC center should we listen to for JFK arrivals on the internet ? Could someone please provide a URL to the particular frequency that would cover the period of arrival ?

Too late, it already landed!


User currently offlineQuerosene From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 18529 times:

No, it hasn't.

ETA: 4:32 EDT
Current: 2:37 EDT

So 2 hours more to go.


User currently onlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4116 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 18433 times:

Flightaware is identifying this as a A380-800. Is that the correct designation for the type Emirates has?

User currently offlineFlexo From St. Helena, joined Mar 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 18356 times:



Quoting Querosene (Reply 21):
No, it hasn't.

Oops, sorry about that, I looked on the JFK website and saw an EK arrival from DXB at 2:19 pm, but it is a different flight number.

Quoting BOACVC10 (Reply 19):
Which ATC center should we listen to for JFK arrivals on the internet ? Could someone please provide a URL to the particular frequency that would cover the period of arrival ?

You can find the JFK frequencies here:
http://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?all#kjfk


User currently offlineBWilliams From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 18302 times:



Quoting BOACVC10 (Reply 19):
The big question I have is, what will JFK ops call the aircraft other than Emirates 3801?

If they use the same terminology that they used when the A380 came in with LH (it was either a facilities test or just a show-off flight), it'll be "Emirates 3801 Super"



Regards, Brad Williams
25 Post contains links Kearnet : Looks like It might fly close enough to where I am, that I might catch a glimpse (Provided the clouds cooperate). Closet field ID to me is NH40 (Eagle
26 Petera380 : Technically it's an A380-861. 800 series with GP7200 engines. Peter
27 BOACVC10 : " target=_blank>http://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php...#kjfk JFK has several approach sectors, which one is EK3801 coming through ? BOACVC10
28 BO__einG : Currently descending from FL360 to FL240 over North Atlantic sector at Boston Center. It will be entering the control zone for NYC Class-B Airspace pr
29 BOACVC10 : timecheck: 1615LT, NYC ROBER pointed out to aircraft traffic in sight will be a "Airbus A380".
30 JoKeR : On approach to JFK now, north of Coram/Holbrook @ 18,600 feet
31 BOACVC10 : timecheck: 1617LT "Emirates 3801 SUPER" descend and mantain 5000
32 OA260 : Thanks for the updates , looking forward to the first pics !
33 Post contains links BOACVC10 : timecheck 1620LT "Emirates 3801 Super" descend and maintain 4000 ?? 4000 ?? and look at the traffic pattern .. pretty all over the place. Track flight
34 BOACVC10 : Timecheck: 1622LT Freq change over to 132.4
35 747fan : Tracking south of Long Island right now, just under 10,000ft. right now. Looks like it'll be a 22R approach, listening to JFK Tower right now on livea
36 747fan : Update: JFK Tower just advised that EK3801 will use 22L.
37 Pilot21 : EK 3801 - cleared to Land!
38 JoKeR : Super heavy cleared to land...
39 Kearnet : "Super Heavy" "Super?" "Yeah Super" "Wow" LOL
40 Jonnygt : Chopper 4 - "Super Heavy?" TOWER -- "That's right, Super." Chopper 4 - "Wow."
41 Ebs757 : "Super heavy?" haha I liked that
42 747fan : "We're gonna have a new big guy here touching down in a minute or so." -JFK Tower "EK3801 about a mile out of 22L."
43 BO__einG : Clear to land Rwy22R "New big Guy Touching down soon.. " Lots of chatter regarding the super heavy. Very very nice to hear all this. Lots of intereste
44 F.pier : Landed now at JFK airport Cool!!!
45 HAIRyBUS : YAY !!! 3801 ..follow the vehicle in front of ya ...
46 Kearnet : And she's here! Woo Hoo!
47 JoKeR : The eagle has landed!
48 747fan : "EK3801 Ground 121 decimal 65 good night!" -JFK Tower EK3801 now on the ground, landed right around 4:32PM EST.
49 Ebs757 : did anyone else have a big delay from liveatc.net?
50 Post contains links UAEflyer : Congratulations Emirates Congratulaitions Airbus Congratulations The Port Authority of NY & NJ http://tracker.flightview.com/htNYNJ...rap=DEP&mode=FTR
51 HAIRyBUS : Yes, it seemed pretty delayed to me.
52 F.pier : Is there a webcam @ JFK airport?
53 KissK : has it landed now? where r the pics?
54 747fan : Interesting listening in on the chatter involving the A380; I remember one interesting exchange: Tower-"Super Heavy" Helicopter-"Super Heavy?" Tower-
55 Globetraveller : I missed all of this chatter. Is there any way to hear it again? Is it saved anywhere? Globetraveller
56 747fan : It will be available again on liveatc.net under the archives. On the left side of the homepage, click on "LiveATC Feed Archives" then click on today'
57 Globetraveller : Thank you so much for the quick reply and the directions on how to hear it! I found it already. Globetraveller
58 Haan : O, so where are tho photos
59 OA260 : For me its saying ''file not found''!!
60 Post contains links and images Singapore_Air : For posterity:
61 Globetraveller : I think the times are actually 20:00-20:30 and 20:30-21:00. Try those! Globetraveller
62 HAIRyBUS : Select 2000-2030Z.
63 KL773ER : I am hoping for A) A 22L arrival to scare all of those non-av people sitting in Friday afternoon traffic on 878-Nassau Expwy - Rockaway Blvd. or B) 31
64 A340Spotter : Impressed with WNBC-TV New York's channel 4. They had a live feed (which MSNBC piped in as the flight rolled out) on throughout. They carried the feed
65 OA260 : Thats great , got it . Thanks alot guys ...
66 OA260 : Is there a link to it or will they not re run it on their website?
67 A340Spotter : At the moment, there's no link posted. The story just got put up on their site (www.wnbc.com) but they hadn't linked the video yet. Have to think the
68 OA260 : Thanks , found the story and would love to see a landing video so if anyone finds one please do post.
69 Post contains links BRJ : Didn't see anyone post this - but here is the link of the departure out of Dubai. Apologies if it was already posted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g
70 JFK69 : I tried timing it correctly by leaving my office in woodmere at the right time but because of traffic, I was 1 plane behind.
71 Post contains links OA260 : Here is the direct link to ATC also the EK bits come in at around 75% towards the end of the bar. http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kjfk/KJFK-Twr-Aug-
72 Post contains links and images GothamSpotter : UPDATE: First photos are here. FIRST PHOTOS: Emirates A380 Arrives at JFK [NYCAviation.com] Amazing turnout for New York-area spotters! [Edited 2008-
73 Post contains links BRJ : Found a video - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25972394#25972394 Just slowing down on the runway...and turning off.
74 SpeedBirdA380 : Great Stuff!! Congratulation's to Emirate's and Airbus Looking foward to when QF and BA get theirs.
75 AT : The links to the pics are not working. Could someone repost? Thanks, and sorry for the bother. The video is impressive. I would love to see her parked
76 OA260 : Bad link does not work for me
77 Post contains links and images GothamSpotter : Sorry, the site was down but it's back. First is up, more coming soon:
78 OA260 : Working ok now. Great pics and nice to see all the JFK Spotters also.
79 BigPhilNYC : It was a really great time, tailgating while we waited to learn which runway, and then tearing ass in a 15-car convoy to the final location. There are
80 LONGisland89 : I saw the aircraft fly over Robert Moses beach on Long Island and my friends didn't get why I was so excited
81 Haan : Great photos all. Job well done
82 Post contains links and images Njgtr82 : Here's my shots from today Bill
83 OA260 : Oh WOW !! Well done , those are amazing . You got the timing just right. Thanks for sharing.
84 SpeedBirdA380 : Excellent photo's! The wheels look tiny compared to the bulk of the plane.
85 Post contains links and images PropilotJW : A few of the MANY pictures I took today... Water canon salute! Heading to the gate At the gate... check out the upper deck jetbridge
86 Worldrider : Also, unrelated question, are there any penalties on the DXB-JFK route or can the A380 handle it with a full payload? A still unrelated comment, the A
87 Zvezda : Congratulations to EK and to Airbus!
88 Post contains links OA260 : I emailed a guy called Jim in WNBC and asked him if they would upload the full landing video onto their website and he did so . Thanks to WNBC http://
89 LAXDESI : The A380 can fly about 6,700 nm with max. payload. So DXB-JFK at about 6,000 nm is doable with max. payload if strong jet streams are not a factor; h
90 Johruk : Great video! Was it windy at JFK??! Even though it is a massive aircraft it looked like it was really getting blown around a bit!...Or maybe it is jus
91 Haan : " target=_blank>http://video.wnbc.com/player/?id=282105 U are a STAR. Thank u very much. Just love the way how the A380's wings drop as soon as they
92 NicoEDDF : I thougth the same...quite windy and a lot of correction work. Nice to see it finally be in airlines service not only for SQ but also EK. Can't wait
93 OA260 : LOL. thanks . I thought that I wouldn't even get a response to my email let alone actually getting them to upload it. But fair play to them I was imp
94 Pilot21 : 22L landing does put you right over residential areas so they do sweep them around to line up with the runway - not anything as tight as 22R (that is
95 LTBEWR : What a great day in the history of flying and for JFK (which celebrated it's 60th Anniversary on July 25th). Let us hope this is the first of many A-3
96 Super Em : Question? How do the pilots get to the cockpit? If you look at the L1 door, it is not aligned with the cockpit. Is there a mini stairway they must cli
97 Blr2syr : My dad on EK this tuesday at the 11 am flight to DXB . I was wondering if it would be the A380 ?
98 Astuteman : I suspect that's likely to go up by a few hundred Nm in the next 4 years or so, as OEW reduces, SFC improves, and aerodynamic improvements are introd
99 HAMAD : when you board from 1L, on your left the cockpit is raised a little bit by a small stair way
100 Ikramerica : By the looks of the parked at the gate picture, the upper jetway is angled steeply downward to reach the plane. Quite a hike to deplane, similar to an
101 Sorayafaradiba : wow! the pictures are great. it looks much better than singapore´s whale jet!
102 SVKA380 : " target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzbtU...vQyRo This was posted by my Uncle in Dubai... member on Airliners.net as Emirates2005
103 Post contains links and images ANITIX87 : I posted this in another thread, but here is one of mine. TIS
104 Anax : congrats to EK & Airbus. Definitely better looking than SQ's
105 Airbazar : Yeah, I love the SQ livery but it doesn't look good on the A380 at all. I think the SQ marketing department missed the boat for not coming up with a
106 AT : I don't understand-- can you or someone elaborate? what does "sweep them around to line up" mean and what does that have to do with residential areas
107 Airbazar : It means they can't do a "direct line" approach. So they come in from the water, somewhat parallel to the runway then make a 180 turn to line up with
108 ANITIX87 : I've never seen this done for 22L arrivals from Europe. They always come in on the ENE or PLYMM STAR and do a zig-zag over Long Island before coming
109 KL773ER : As much as I am happy to have the A380 at JFK now ... I wish it was Air France livery!
110 AT : Thanks. That's interesting. What is a "direct line" approach and what is it about Runway 22L that makes it unable to do this direct line??
111 Mir : You're thinking of 13L and 13R, which do follow the curvature of Jamaica Bay with a tight right turn at the end. By the way, it's the desire to avoid
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