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Colombian Skies: Big AA And Some AV News  
User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4393 posts, RR: 12
Posted (6 years 7 hours ago) and read 3624 times:

With the turmoil that´s been going on with US-Colombia frequencies, there´s some other things going on that we haven´t looked at.

AA

The airline is facing investigations from Aerocivil (colombian aviation authority) due to several flight cancellations caused by mechanical issues, in which the passengers were not given proper compensation. The director of Aerocivil even sent an offical letter to the FAA so that they started an investigation too. The crisis started when a MIA-BOG flight was cancelled and some passengers were told to board the BAQ flight, and then had to pay for a BAQ-BOG ticket from their own pockets.

More details (in spanish):
http://www.cmi.com.co/Contenido/Noticia.asp?nota=17325&seccion=8
http://www.cmi.com.co/Contenido/Noticia.asp?nota=17376&seccion=8

AV

The national airline is upgrading its Bogotá-Barcelona route from January 2009. The flight will now operate 4x a week, a much needed upgrade. I wonder where the freqs. came from, wasn´t the Colombia-Spain bilateral very restrictive?

This also means that the two A330s arriving before that date are giving the 767 fleet a much needed break. I hope to see a 3x weekly FRA route announced very soon.

Details (in spanish):

http://www.avianca.com/NR/rdonlyres/...29ColombiaTur%C3%ADstica100708.pdf


Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
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User currently offlineTBYO787 From Colombia, joined Feb 2008, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 hours ago) and read 3556 times:



Quoting RCS763AV (Thread starter):
The airline is facing investigations from Aerocivil (colombian aviation authority) due to several flight cancellations caused by mechanical issues, in which the passengers were not given proper compensation. The director of Aerocivil even sent an offical letter to the FAA so that they started an investigation too. The crisis started when a MIA-BOG flight was cancelled and some passengers were told to board the BAQ flight, and then had to pay for a BAQ-BOG ticket from their own pockets.

Not Only that, AA it is also making all passengers that have a return from/to BAQ after September 2nd, 2008. to pay for their own ticket from/to BOG or MDE to/from BAQ.
They are not protecting passenger that already purchase tickets to or from BAQ for travel after 09/02/08.

Something CO didn't do at CLO cancellation. CO protected everyone thru BOG or PTY via CM.

TBYO787


User currently offlineNa747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 120 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

Sounds like someone dropped the ball big time in MIA during the day-to-day operations.
MIA-AA should have protected the paxs to their final destination, and if MIA-AA screwed up, then BAQ-AA should have corrected the problem(s) and gotten those paxs to BOG --as unfair as it may sound for BAQ-AA (meaning, BAQ solving MIA problems). Then again, we all know what a disaster MIA can be...or is.


User currently offlineTBYO787 From Colombia, joined Feb 2008, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3219 times:



Quoting Na747 (Reply 2):

The problem Now at BAQ is that because AA doesn't have an office on their own in BAQ, the GSA is not willing to cooperate that much because their contract is going to be over on September 2nd.
That is the attitude they have lately at BAQTC and BAQAPO.

TBYO787


User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4393 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

The case here is bad. Its the first time i heard of a "respectable"vcarrier doing this. AA is really sucking as of late...


Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offlineNA747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 120 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2898 times:



Quoting TBYO787 (Reply 3):
The problem Now at BAQ is that because AA doesn't have an office on their own in BAQ, the GSA is not willing to cooperate that much because their contract is going to be over on September 2nd.
That is the attitude they have lately at BAQTC and BAQAPO.

TBYO787

Wow...very interesting. I knew they were contracted out, but still ,you would think they would uphold their end of the "contract" until it expired.
Well, it's not a surprise regarding the attitude lately there. Besides, MIA-AA should have rebooked and protected the paxs to their final destination.
I knew AA would drop BAQ as soon as they could...but that's another can of worms.


User currently offlineAlianza From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2880 times:



Quoting RCS763AV (Thread starter):
The crisis started when a MIA-BOG flight was cancelled and some passengers were told to board the BAQ flight, and then had to pay for a BAQ-BOG ticket from their own pockets.

More details (in spanish):
http://www.cmi.com.co/Contenido/Noti...ion=8

But this article does not give details of the what was the cause of the mechanical problems, nor what the passengers were told. It is possible they were offered passage on the next available flight to BOG and a voucher, or they could take an alternate flight to Colombia which happened to be BAQ. So the people who did not want to wait, opted to fly to Baq instead. This is nothing new, nor is it out of the ordinary.


Saludos,


User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4393 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2836 times:



Quoting Alianza (Reply 6):
But this article does not give details of the what was the cause of the mechanical problems, nor what the passengers were told.

There´s a video in which they talk about it. Its right there.



Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4396 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (5 years 12 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2675 times:



Quoting NA747 (Reply 5):
I knew AA would drop BAQ as soon as they could...but that's another can of worms.

However, BAQ is being regulated upon the Open Skies agreement.
So, AA is able to resume the route in the future without any problem.
Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8287 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (5 years 12 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2666 times:
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Quoting NA747 (Reply 5):
knew AA would drop BAQ as soon as they could...but that's another can of worms.

Would you cae to expand that thesis ? I think a late afternnoon departure from Miami is better with a morning out of BAQ back to Miami. This provides better connections both ways.


User currently offlineRICARIZA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2389 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (5 years 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2559 times:



Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 7):
There´s a video in which they talk about it. Its right there.

I can't see it ...



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32620 posts, RR: 72
Reply 11, posted (5 years 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2548 times:



Quoting NA747 (Reply 5):
I knew AA would drop BAQ as soon as they could.

"As soon as they could?"

It's Open Skies, they could have dropped it whenever they wanted.

BAQ is a good 70-100 seat market. AA will be back.



a.
User currently offlineNA747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 120 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2452 times:

Hi MAH...
Didn't NK want to get AA's unused Colombia slots & that's why AA went back to BAQ? After AA re-started BAQ didn't BAQ then become open skies?
Always good to read your comments. Cheers.


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