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Skyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1065 posts, RR: 4
Posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2139 times:

I know someone out there will have an answer really quick, but for the life of me I can't remember the company that ended up with the rights to use National's sunburst on the tail.
Thanks ahead of time.
Skyhawk

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Airman99o From Canada, joined Aug 1999, 969 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

SouthEast, another one that had its wings clipped a few years back. Flew Black tailed Dc-9's and I think the Odd MD-80. used to see them all the time in PIE, Most were parked there after the shut down.

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Skyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2108 times:

Airman99o- thanks so much for the reminder. As soon as I read your reply, everything clicked.

Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21679 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2096 times:

Quoting Airman99o (Reply 1):
SouthEast, another one that had its wings clipped a few years back. Flew Black tailed Dc-9's and I think the Odd MD-80. used to see them all the time in PIE, Most were parked there after the shut down.

The National logo was known as the Sun King.

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Skyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2070 times:

The National logo was call the "Sunburst". The name "Sunking" was what we called our VIP waiting lounges.

Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21679 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2005 times:

Quoting Skyhawk (Reply 4):
The National logo was call the "Sunburst". The name "Sunking" was what we called our VIP waiting lounges.

Every reference I have seen to the logo and livery referred to it as "Sunking".

Skyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1755 times:

Viscount724, I realize that many publications refer to the logo as "Sunking", what I said was what we in the company called the logo. When I graduated from Stewardess (that is what we were still called) training back in 1971, I was pinned with my "Sunburst" pin and then we visited the VIP lounge at the Miami airport and learned it along with the sister rooms around the country were called the "Sunking" rooms. Really doesn't make that much difference, just thought I would let you know what I had learned. Have a good day!
Skyhawk

TymnBalewne From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1614 times:

How did Southeast end up with the "Sunburst" logo? I assume Pan Am (I) held on to the rights to the logo until that airline's demise. What happened after, and who currently owns the logo?

Dewmanair...begins with Dew

N202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1550 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1575 times:

Key Air was using the logo in the mid-90s. But yes, Southeast wound up using it last.

Skyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

When PanAm bought National we, as National's employees, were assured that our Sunburst would never be used again. The ink was barely dry on the papers when the bosses at PanAm started lieing to us and sold our beloved Sunburst.

USAFDO From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

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Gate agents in MIA frequent made boarding & arrival announcements of National wide body jets way a statement that similar to: National Airlines announces the departure of flight ###, 747 Sunking service to London".

The lounges were referred to as Sunking, as well as flights....

Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21679 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1449 times:

Quoting Skyhawk (Reply 6):
Viscount724, I realize that many publications refer to the logo as "Sunking", what I said was what we in the company called the logo. When I graduated from Stewardess (that is what we were still called) training back in 1971, I was pinned with my "Sunburst" pin

Thanks for the history. I just assumed that since the logo looked like a person's face that the Sunking name came from that.

I only flew on two National flights, a DC-10 SFO-MIA nonstop and a DC-8 in the other direction that operated MIA-MSY-IAH-SFO. Service was very good (first class, nonrev).

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