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User currently offlineSkyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2747 times:

I know someone out there will have an answer really quick, but for the life of me I can't remember the company that ended up with the rights to use National's sunburst on the tail.
Thanks ahead of time.
Skyhawk

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User currently offlineAirman99o From Canada, joined Aug 1999, 975 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2729 times:

SouthEast, another one that had its wings clipped a few years back. Flew Black tailed Dc-9's and I think the Odd MD-80. used to see them all the time in PIE, Most were parked there after the shut down.


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User currently offlineSkyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2716 times:

Airman99o- thanks so much for the reminder. As soon as I read your reply, everything clicked.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25626 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2704 times:



Quoting Airman99o (Reply 1):
SouthEast, another one that had its wings clipped a few years back. Flew Black tailed Dc-9's and I think the Odd MD-80. used to see them all the time in PIE, Most were parked there after the shut down.

The National logo was known as the Sun King.


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User currently offlineSkyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

The National logo was call the "Sunburst". The name "Sunking" was what we called our VIP waiting lounges.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25626 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2613 times:



Quoting Skyhawk (Reply 4):
The National logo was call the "Sunburst". The name "Sunking" was what we called our VIP waiting lounges.

Every reference I have seen to the logo and livery referred to it as "Sunking".


User currently offlineSkyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2363 times:

Viscount724, I realize that many publications refer to the logo as "Sunking", what I said was what we in the company called the logo. When I graduated from Stewardess (that is what we were still called) training back in 1971, I was pinned with my "Sunburst" pin and then we visited the VIP lounge at the Miami airport and learned it along with the sister rooms around the country were called the "Sunking" rooms. Really doesn't make that much difference, just thought I would let you know what I had learned. Have a good day!
Skyhawk


User currently offlineTymnBalewne From Bermuda, joined Mar 2005, 951 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2222 times:

How did Southeast end up with the "Sunburst" logo? I assume Pan Am (I) held on to the rights to the logo until that airline's demise. What happened after, and who currently owns the logo?


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User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2183 times:

Key Air was using the logo in the mid-90s. But yes, Southeast wound up using it last.

User currently offlineSkyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2087 times:

When PanAm bought National we, as National's employees, were assured that our Sunburst would never be used again. The ink was barely dry on the papers when the bosses at PanAm started lieing to us and sold our beloved Sunburst.

User currently offlineUSAFDO From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2074 times:

Gate agents in MIA frequent made boarding & arrival announcements of National wide body jets way a statement that similar to: National Airlines announces the departure of flight ###, 747 Sunking service to London".

The lounges were referred to as Sunking, as well as flights....


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25626 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2057 times:



Quoting Skyhawk (Reply 6):
Viscount724, I realize that many publications refer to the logo as "Sunking", what I said was what we in the company called the logo. When I graduated from Stewardess (that is what we were still called) training back in 1971, I was pinned with my "Sunburst" pin

Thanks for the history. I just assumed that since the logo looked like a person's face that the Sunking name came from that.

I only flew on two National flights, a DC-10 SFO-MIA nonstop and a DC-8 in the other direction that operated MIA-MSY-IAH-SFO. Service was very good (first class, nonrev).


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