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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3084 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 7181 times:
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Yet another hot, sizzling, exciting thread........Expecting clear skies for the month of August...

Previous thread...
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4073492/

Caribbean Aviation Updates...

AA to start MIA-ANU flights from Sept 6,2008....
Government to refurbish Pindling Airport in Nassau...
Barbados expects a successful winter season...
Barbados has seen a decline in the number of visitors from Trinidad...
Cayman to implement user fee at it's airports...
Cayman sees a rise in air arrivals..
Owen Roberts Airport receives international certification...
Guyanese complain of high airfares..Government met with Travel Agents to discuss situation..
JM to announce new C.E.O next week..
St Lucia records visitor increase in June..
LIAT to add SJU-SKB flight..
Suriname Airways to add Boeing 777-200ER to fleet..
Caribbean Airlines will soon make an announcement regarding new routes and additional aircrafts...One 737W is expected before the end of the year...More Dash 8s are expected for regional expansion..
US to suspend some Caribbean destinations until November...
Expansion planned for Virgin Gorda Airport...

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/sleeppe_183/caribnew.gif
Now including the ABC islands and Belize... Big grin  Big grin



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Thank you guys for your contributions the forum.....Our threads are moving so fast it is hard to keep track...Please keep it positive and respect the "opinion" of forum members..


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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3084 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 7211 times:
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Quoting HummingBird (Reply 195):
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 194):
But remember Surinam is also on the POS-CUR-POS route.

What is the market like between POS and CUR?

The market is pretty healthy, even though I don't completely understand why some airlines have been successful on this route while others haven't. As pointed out by SCL767 there are also Surinamese flying to CUR via POS and Surinam Airways has been flying the PBM-POS-CUR route successfully for quite some time now. I think Caribbean Airlines can penetrate the Surinamese market by offering good connecting times to CUR which is why think that the 738 is better suited for the CUR route. Just my opinion.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9852 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 7156 times:



Quoting HummingBird (Thread starter):
Suriname Airways to add Boeing 777-200ER to fleet..

This is not confirmed, far from it. It's only a rumor. The text should read that Surinam Airways is interested in the 777 or looking at the 777 as replacement alternative for their sole 743.

A388


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 12 hours ago) and read 7142 times:
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Quoting HummingBird (Reply 1):

I dropped a friend at FLL today and took some pics of your favourite bird!


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 10 hours ago) and read 7120 times:
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http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3/gavinm500/FLL/DSC00673.jpg

User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 7070 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4):

I thought the pink stripes went all the way down the tail? Is this a slightly incomplete livery?

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 1):
I think Caribbean Airlines can penetrate the Surinamese market by offering good connecting times to CUR which is why think that the 738 is better suited for the CUR route. Just my opinion.

SCL767 I totally agree that CAL can do well in CUR. Offering connections via POS to PMB, GEO, BGI and further afield. What is the market like between AUA and POS? Could it support Dash 8 service a few times a week?

Quoting HummingBird (Thread starter):

Thanks once again for starting up another round of Caribbean Aviation. The time and effort you guys (Including BWIA772 and Caribbean484 and others who have started up threads) put in is much appreciated. Cheers!

AA1818



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 7066 times:
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Quoting AA1818 (Reply 5):
I thought the pink stripes went all the way down the tail? Is this a slightly incomplete livery?

I was at FLL dropping off a friend, so I decided to take some pics and there is a lot of action at FLL, I did a TR on it, I got to see the AA A-300 and White's A-310. Skyservice and Avianca too; I only wished the other Hummingbird was there.

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 5):
I totally agree that CAL can do well in CUR. Offering connections via POS to PMB, GEO, BGI and further afield.

POS-CUR-PTY looks good, so does POS-CUR-SDQ.


User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7022 times:

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 5):
I thought the pink stripes went all the way down the tail? Is this a slightly incomplete livery?

The " Magenta" stripes on JM's tail goes all the way down but fade out as they get closer to the " Humming Bird " so the livery is 100% complete.

[Edited 2008-08-03 05:23:19]


greenheart
User currently offline9YCAL From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2008, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7017 times:

Just miss the Emraites A380 at JFK on Friday. I came in on the 522. I saw the Emraites Tripple 7 that came in after us. If I only knew the A380 was coming in behind. lol.

It's nice to hear that CAL will be getting more aircraft soon. I wish they would put what caribbean flava the various dash 8s are sporting on the nose of the aircrafts. When will WIT get the full livery?


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9852 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6995 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 6):
POS-CUR-SDQ

If there is traffic between POS and SDQ it is a good route but the CUR-SDQ demand is already provided with enough (if not too much) capacity. We have 7I, 9H, R7 serving the route already which is more then enough unless you are looking for very low load factors.

In my opinion POS-CUR-PTY is the best option as there are still opportunities on the PTY market (no airlines serve that route at the moment from CUR). The way I read it here there also is decent demand from POS to PTY. CUR might fill those empty seats so to speak.

A388


User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3084 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6997 times:
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Quoting A388 (Reply 2):
This is not confirmed, far from it. It's only a rumor. The text should read that Surinam Airways is interested in the 777 or looking at the 777 as replacement alternative for their sole 743.

Re-visiting the Surinam Airways thread....An announcement was made at a press conference.......Based on the info posted, I am pretty sure they will acquire this aircraft...

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...al_aviation/read.main/4080608/1/#1

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 3):
dropped a friend at FLL today and took some pics of your favourite bird!

Thanks...My aunt was on that aircraft.....

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 1):
The market is pretty healthy, even though I don't completely understand why some airlines have been successful on this route while others haven't. As pointed out by SCL767 there are also Surinamese flying to CUR via POS and Surinam Airways has been flying the PBM-POS-CUR route successfully for quite some time now. I think Caribbean Airlines can penetrate the Surinamese market by offering good connecting times to CUR which is why think that the 738 is better suited for the CUR route. Just my opinion.

Maybe they will......Is it feasible to operate the Dash8 at 459nm with cargo??...



[quote=AA1818,reply=5]Thanks once again for starting up another round of Caribbean Aviation. The time and effort you guys (Including BWIA772 and Caribbean484 and others who have started up threads) put in is much appreciated. Cheers!

Thanks......

.....................................................................................................................................

Caribbean Aviation News

AA flight diverts to MBJ....
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080803/lead/lead6.html
.....................................................................................................................................

Update on "BabyBus"

Aircraft is still parked in the hangar at KIN...It now has Jamaican registration.....
JCAA will not certify the aircraft until the plug type rafts are installed in the doors...The current rafts are situated in the overhead bins...
Six seats will be removed....The current flight attendant to pax ratio is 50:1.....Having three cabin crew will help reduce costs...
After the summer, the aircraft will be reconfigured and used exclusively on the LAX route....The aircraft has cost and range advantages over the A320 on this particular segment..
The current lease rate for this aircraft is cheaper compared to the A320....



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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6966 times:



Quoting 9YCAL (Reply 8):
When will WIT get the full livery?

From what I've heard all the Dash8s should be done by year's end. WIZ is in the hangar now having the old Bwee express colours removed. WIT is all white already so application of the decals should not be too difficult. Will let you know if I get any more detailed info.

AA1818



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User currently offlineBeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1756 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6913 times:



Quoting 9YCAL (Reply 8):
Just miss the Emraites A380 at JFK on Friday. I came in on the 522.

Yes you missed all the fun cause JFK ground to a halt for that plane to come in. I saw the 523 leaving that same day. They say it is coming back on the 7th and three times a week. My name is on the list to get a tour inside when it gets back. What an Imagination if Caribbean or Air Jamaica got that aircraft but either a 787 or 330 even a 777 will do for now.


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6909 times:
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Quoting A388 (Reply 9):
In my opinion POS-CUR-PTY is the best option as there are still opportunities on the PTY market (no airlines serve that route at the moment from CUR). The way I read it here there also is decent demand from POS to PTY. CUR might fill those empty seats so to speak.

Agreed, but the 738 might be to big for the route. Is Aeropostal back on the CUR-SDQ route already?

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 10):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 3):
dropped a friend at FLL today and took some pics of your favourite bird!

Thanks...My aunt was on that aircraft.....

No worries man, that was 6Y-JAF, she looked like she was recently painted.


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6909 times:
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Quoting Beeweel15 (Reply 12):
Yes you missed all the fun cause JFK ground to a halt for that plane to come in. I saw the 523 leaving that same day.

Thanks for the pics, I still haven't seen the A-380 as yet. I didn't know you also handled LAN!

Here is a pic of the Iberia A-340-600 (EC-JOH) sitting in Quito. Notice the Oneworld sticker by door 1R.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3/gavinm500/DSC00269.jpg

[Edited 2008-08-03 14:15:46]

User currently offlineSpeedbird2263 From Jamaica, joined Jul 2006, 470 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6868 times:



Quoting Beeweel15 (Reply 12):
What an Imagination if Caribbean or Air Jamaica got that aircraft but either a 787 or 330 even a 777 will do for now.

It's not impossible and certainly with extreme circumstances outside the norm (on could argue EK faced the same just 10yrs ago), it could work; however its far from probable.

 twocents 



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User currently offline9YCAL From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2008, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6848 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 11):
WIZ is in the hangar now having the old Bwee express colours removed.

WIL is the aircraft in the hanger at the moment. WIZ is still flying in the Tobago Express livery. The reason I ask about WIT is as you say, its already painted white so pulling the aircraft out for a day or two to put on the decals should not be a problem.


User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6837 times:



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 10):

Aircraft is still parked in the hangar at KIN...It now has Jamaican registration.....
JCAA will not certify the aircraft until the plug type rafts are installed in the doors...The current rafts are situated in the overhead bins...
Six seats will be removed....The current flight attendant to pax ratio is 50:1.....Having three cabin crew will help reduce costs...
After the summer, the aircraft will be reconfigured and used exclusively on the LAX route....The aircraft has cost and range advantages over the A320 on this particular segment..
The current lease rate for this aircraft is cheaper compared to the A320....

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to seeing the319 in the air, and hoping that JM gets a couple more. They can prove to be quite useful some of JM routes, eg LAX as is planned, possible ORD and or PHL, and hopefully for further expansion.



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User currently offlineInbound From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2001, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6810 times:



Quoting 9YCAL (Reply 16):
WIL is the aircraft in the hanger at the moment. WIZ is still flying in the Tobago Express livery. The reason I ask about WIT is as you say, its already painted white so pulling the aircraft out for a day or two to put on the decals should not be a problem.

WIT got a quickie paint job when it came out, so I think it needs a "flash over" in white again before the decals can be applied.
Then she'll look crispy new  Smile



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9852 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6794 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 14):
Here is a pic of the Iberia A-340-600 (EC-JOH) sitting in Quito. Notice the Oneworld sticker by door 1R.

I don't understand why it takes soo long for IB to decide what will happen to this A346. It seems nobody knows what will happen. I read that a new landing gear arrived quite some time ago and still it just sits there. Why?

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 13):
Agreed, but the 738 might be to big for the route. Is Aeropostal back on the CUR-SDQ route already?

It depends on how the route develops. The 738 might be too big or not. Caribbean Airlines should do an in-depth analysis on the potential of the PTY/SDQ market combined with CUR. Historical data, local market analysis, comsumer surveys and potential demand can give them a lot of information. Once they have done that they can decide to go for it or not.

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 10):
Re-visiting the Surinam Airways thread....An announcement was made at a press conference.......Based on the info posted, I am pretty sure they will acquire this aircraft...

That thread doesn't confirm anything, purely speculations based on rumors.

A388


User currently offlineBloodyrascal From Bahamas, joined Mar 2007, 191 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6784 times:



Quoting Captaink (Reply 17):
Thanks for the update. Looking forward to seeing the319 in the air, and hoping that JM gets a couple more. They can prove to be quite useful some of JM routes, eg LAX as is planned, possible ORD and or PHL, and hopefully for further expansion.

How many 319s are they going to get. Maybe JM will finally go daily on the KIN-NAS-MBJ-KIN route



I am in Jamrock and I am impressed with the new terminals built in MBJ and KIN. It has been a long time since i have been here and I must say I am impressed.


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6781 times:
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Quoting A388 (Reply 19):
I don't understand why it takes soo long for IB to decide what will happen to this A346. It seems nobody knows what will happen. I read that a new landing gear arrived quite some time ago and still it just sits there. Why?

It's been written off by Iberia. Here is her stats:
Serial number 731
Type 340-642
First flight date 01/02/2006
Test registration F-WWKT


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9852 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6774 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 21):
It's been written off by Iberia. Here is her stats:
Serial number 731
Type 340-642
First flight date 01/02/2006
Test registration F-WWKT

Okay so the decision has been made regarding this aircraft. A sad ending for such a young aircraft  Sad

Yesterday the only former ALM/DCA MD82 got scrapped too after sitting at the airport for a few years in bad shape. That was a sad sight too as this aircraft has flown for the Curacao/Netherlands Antilles aviation since it was delivered new to ALM at the time. I remember going to this aircraft at an open day when it arrived brandnew in CUR and it was shown to the public. I have also flown in this aircraft as a kid. A very sad moment and witness for me to see this beauty being broken down/scrapped  Sad

A388


User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6754 times:

Quoting Bloodyrascal (Reply 20):
I am in Jamrock and I am impressed with the new terminals built in MBJ and KIN. It has been a long time since i have been here and I must say I am impressed.

Both MBJ & KIN are looking pretty impressive at the moment from the ongoing expansion and redevelopment. The runway at MBJ will also be extended from 8,735 feet to 10,000 feet as well. What is also interesting at MBJ is the aircraft parking configuration. The original terminal building had aircraft parked facing South only. Some of them are now parked facing the North. Many people are also not aware that originally the main terminal building at MBJ was on the northern side of the runway but was relocated to the southern side many many years ago as redevelopment progressed. Today MBJ has grown to be one of the largest and busiest international airports in the Caribbean. I am not certain of its exact ranking but naturally SJU is tops.

[Edited 2008-08-03 21:27:12]


greenheart
User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6734 times:

Charter PTY-AUA tonite at 0100h.
Saw it on PTY screen.
I've no idea what's all about.



I don't work for COPA Airlines!
25 SCL767 : Random question, I'm traveling to PTY soon for leisure, can you give me some good recommendations as to day tour cruise operators through the Canal?
26 Beeweel15 : Yes but on the flip side there is a tremendous supply of spare parts available sad to say. And by the looks of the pictures of this aircraft the salv
27 Yellowtail : THANKS! We (BZE) are in there, even if it needed some arrows
28 2travel2know : Argotours is the company I know who offers the canal transits, once per week usually Saturdays and/or Sundays (Balboa - Cristóbal one day, return th
29 SCL767 : Well guys, I was on AA 1647, and guess what, engine problems, so we are being rebooked on Caribbean, so tired of Dealing with American's crap!
30 HummingBird : Unconfirmed reports states two more aircrafts should join the fleet..... The new CEO will be announced today..Brace yourselves for another round of "
31 Beeweel15 : Well thats funny and they have over 200 planes. Guess the price of oil is really getting to them. I hope Caribbean wins all the folks over for future
32 A388 : Some salvageable parts had been taken off a long time ago yes but most of the parts of the aircraft in its current shape have become heavily corroded
33 Beeweel15 : I remember the two times I flew on KL from AMS to POS back in the days of the DC10-30 doing the KL 772 the FA's were all from ALM
34 Post contains links HummingBird : Thanks for the info.... This is our Caribbean Forum tribute to ALM.. Enjoy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEQzhFXzCPk http://www.youtube.com/watch
35 Caribbean484 : Hey guys, Hummingbird thanks again for setting up the forum, I have been having a good travel summer season. I have been watching the ontime performan
36 Yellowtail : my wife is on AA 1647 next week.....i will tell her good luck!
37 Speedbird2263 : That has been on the drawing board for quite sometime now; I also recall plans to extend 12/30 at KIN, however if i remember correctly it wasn't a si
38 Beeweel15 : Do I smell the A380 here ? Maybe when BA & VS get them.
39 AirJamaica : True. They seem to be focusing more on the expansion of the terminal building and construction of the new transportation center at MBJ. They did ment
40 Yellowtail : I highly doubt you will see a 380 in MBJ in the next 5 years. If any place gets one in the Caribbean it will be SXM via AF or HAV first, though I doub
41 2travel2know : Neither SXM or HAV, my guess is FDF Martinique, from ORY/CDG and only in December-January. Run out CUR/AUA-AMS, the numbers there don't come close to
42 HummingBird : I remember the A380 visiting FDF in Jan, 2006....Its is more likely to visit the French Antilles before any other islands..HAV could be a contender..
43 Yellowtail : whats new! Us Caribbean people always fighting amongst ourselves.
44 HummingBird : I remember the A380 visiting FDF in Jan, 2006....Its is more likely to visit the French Antilles ......HAV could be a contender... Unconfirmed at thi
45 HummingBird : * Union*
46 Post contains links HummingBird : Here is the official statement..... http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/10551/52/
47 A388 : My thoughts exactly. I only see PTP/FDF as potential Caribbean A380 destinations, no other destinations, not even HAV. A388
48 AirJamaica : " target=_blank>http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/...1/52/ I hope he does not get the "bright idea" of re-fleeting JM with antiquated B737-300's th
49 Caribbean484 : SXM is limited with its space and taxiway length, the A380 will not be in SXM anytime soon, until their runway is increased to about 10,000feet, with
50 Post contains links HummingBird : According to a quote from an Exec " no more old bruk".... Strange enough he was given the same mandate to cut costs and restructure the company......
51 SCL767 : oh you should see how rude the crew was too! I took pics of my MIA-MIA trip with AA I'll post later, BW 483 is going to be full today I just got back
52 HummingBird : Not surprised........ The "scarebus" that operates from MBJ is always delayed due to tech issues..........You should demand compensation... Let them
53 WestIndian425 : Hey Guys! Been gone a while on vacation (actually was in POS, and enjoyed the flight benefits -- LGA-IAH-POS on CO going and POS-MIA-LGA BW/AA return)
54 Caribbean484 : You and my mother, I really can't get her to fly AA for the life of anything. She mostly uses DL for US flights along with B6, I on the other hand ha
55 SCL767 : Oh I book my mom's tickets for her; and she is now booked on BW instead of AA for her next trip. AA 1647 (763) took off at 10:30 am, then when we hit
56 Caribbean484 : Yeah I say that on the system, the flight returned to MIA, but 6 hrs delay is incredible, now if it was BWIA you know people would have made a mass o
57 MAH4546 : Always fun to watch people make stuff up. It's because of aircraft allocation issues. They would like to keep the 763 on MIA-POS, but they can't. Loo
58 Caribbean484 : Its always funny to see you come to AAs rescue, actually its funny since you are the one that said CAL would not last on the FLL route, they have are
59 MAH4546 : Not as funny as your inability to differentiate between my opinions
60 Caribbean484 : Actually my fact was that FLL was going to be a success, based on initial results from the airline. While I accept your correction, " You also someth
61 SCL767 : The new service is quite popular in Trinidad; and many Guyanese also use this service, along with 484/483. I wouldn't be surprised if AA operated MIA
62 MAH4546 : That's not a fact. Time to learn the difference. Arrogant answer? That was my answer, "We'll just wait and see." I was wrong, so what? Big deal. Your
63 Caribbean484 : Airline's route financial performance that you are not previewed to and will never be previewed to is not fact? wow, you just don't know what you are
64 Post contains links HummingBird : Caribbean Aviation News... LI forced passengers to stand in rain, claims passenger.. http://www.sknvibes.com/News/NewsDetails.cfm/6054 Bahamas fails t
65 9YCAL : What is the Website?
66 Yellowtail : Its official.... COPA have just announced that from December they will fly ARUBA (1 Dec), 4XE190 I believe. So now they have Aruba.....CM is in expans
67 Yellowtail : More Official news B6 TO FLY SJU-SDQ B6 1736 SDQ-SJU 1555-1650 B6 1725 SJU-SDQ 1745-1845
68 Inbound : I'm not sure if there's a website as such, but we did get an email once giving us details on how to order certain items. As far as I recall, they wer
69 WestIndian425 : I figured with all the posts that you were taking too long to say something (though I see now that you're not necessarily defending the Evil Empire,
70 Captaink : AA is pretty bad eh. I am/was a FF due to the convenience of their schedule etc. But I recently used up most of my miles, so my next trip is really u
71 SCL767 : I sent AA a letter and the relevant documents and I'm waiting to see if they respond. I explained that EXP's are guaranteed a seat on any sold-out fl
72 WestIndian425 : Ladies and gentlemen, Several threads ago I talked about the Empire striking back when AA announced increase service and new service to several Caribb
73 Post contains links and images SCL767 : One of my friends in POS can't even get a seat until Aug 30th! 9Y-ANU rescued me, and other displaced AA passengers at MIA on Monday.
74 Caribbean484 : As said before, this flight has been performing poorly for the past month for some reason, the AA1818 and AA1662 have been performing well, but the 7
75 SCL767 : He was able to get a Business ticket for Aug 30th; he was lucky a space opened up. I thought they would wet-lease the 737 (all-economy class) from Tr
76 Post contains links Caribbean484 : They were going this route if they did not good long term lease rates for a 738, but it was shelved because they sourced one in April when ATA went b
77 JM017 : After hearing stories like these all my life (and their shady business practices), I made a promise to never fly AA. Happily, I have kept that promis
78 Post contains links SCL767 : The thing is I was almost rebooked on AA 1668 today; thank goodness I was not, due to the fact that it was delayed for over six hours in POS. I feel
79 SCL767 : COPA has recently upgraded PTY-POS-PTY to a 737-700.
80 Post contains images Caribbean484 : Its not just Caribbean travelers, its everyone that fly with them, its the same old tired nonsence. June my mother came to MIA to do some business an
81 A388 : Good one A388
82 Post contains links HummingBird : An update on AA MIA-ANU flight... First flight is on Sept 6, 2008... The flight will operate twice a week....Sat and Sun.... Daily connections are off
83 Chepos : I loved the ALM tribute videos, I was not aware Papiamento was so similar to Spanish. Good job to everyone who created this thread, it's great to have
84 SCL767 : Good job Air Jamaica and Caribbean Airlines!!! KIN has so much potential, hopefully the KIN Jedi will be stronger by years end. AA does have some ext
85 2travel2know : Seems CM finally realised that the POS market is similar to KIN's. Trini Higglers now can take advantage of the upgrade from E190 to B737-700, more s
86 SCL767 : And also customers in POS can use the PTY hub as an alternative to MIA.
87 HummingBird : Wow, you learn something new everyday..I never looked at the flight based on this market segment... I find it strange for them to reduce flights duri
88 Yellowtail : thanks for the details Hbird....but at least I got to break the news first in Reply 67!
89 MAH4546 : Can you not read? I clearly admitted I was wrong. I always admit I'm wrong when I am. And when I'm right I don't put myself on a high horse and rub i
90 SCL767 : MAH4546, random question, why doesn't AE serve SVD? I know AE flies into Canouan Island seasonally.
91 TriniA340 : So no more E190? I know this upgrade is good, but shux man! I like having a variety of planes flying to POS. Now CM is using just another 737, like B
92 Caribbean484 : I all honesty, I really don't want to continue with your narcissistic and supercilious comments, its really becoming offensive and before I say somet
93 WestIndian425 : Scratch TravelSpan, but I know what you mean. Don't worry. Spirit is there with the airbus, the Empire is there with the 757/767 combination, and Spe
94 Captaink : American Eagle used to fly to SVD. I am 100% certain as to why they stopped but if I remember correctly it had something to do with runway/performanc
95 Captaink : RE: American Eagle to ET Joshua, I withdraw the performance issues (I mean we have seen Amerijet take off there..) as the reason the flight was stoppe
96 Caribbean484 : I remember that they did sometime ago, but I don't think it has to do with runway, SVD and DOM has almost the same runway length and the ATRs are cap
97 Post contains links Captaink : I already corrected myself, no it was not the runway, i was thinking of another situation. It was because of a failing a FAA audit. The following is
98 HummingBird : You and I both had this prediction; howver, others thought NK would cause a demise of the established carriers....Now NK is depserately trying to inv
99 WestIndian425 : Ah yes...AmeriJet! I've seen them take off from SLU, and quite impressively, I might add. I remember when BW did it as well with the Mad Dogs.
100 SCL767 : Thanks for clarifying. I believe AE flies to Canouan Island, (seasonally) via SLU, but I wasn't sure as to why AE dropped SVD so long ago. Yep, the F
101 Caribbean484 : Thanks man for the update. Well basically it was based on how the people in the markets then to do things. Majority of Trinis and Jamaicans will supp
102 AirJamaica : I would be very surprised if NK don't inaugurate FLL-CCS in the near future as well. AA is making a killing on MIA-CCS and have been doing so for qui
103 MAH4546 : Venezuela's INAC has not approved Spirit's FLL-CCS application. It has been waiting for approval for more than two years.
104 HummingBird : Looking at the NK fares, you wonder how long can they sustain such low fares..KIN seems viable, but a 3.5h flight to POS would operate at a loss....
105 A388 : The low prices are probably to penetrate the market. You have to make sacrifices to penetrate a market, it's not going to come just like that. Beside
106 HummingBird : But, the question is how long will they be able to have these low prices??.....I understand the sacrifices involved, but we all know that air travel
107 A388 : You are right, nobody knows how long they can sacrifice on the route but NK themselves. Can you please elaborate on this? What do you mean by a new n
108 MAH4546 : They rely heavily on ancillary revenue. You can't just look at the fares and determine things with NK. They charge a lot for baggage (and does anybod
109 HummingBird : :D They have revolutionised the LCC concept.... They were the first to charge for the second piece of checked luggage and inflight beverages...Now it
110 AirJamaica : What is the current situation with AA to VLN ? Was the application for service to that city unapproved ?
111 Caribbean484 : Well that sacrifice is going to be for 7 months, this fare war started in May and will continue till mid December before the christmas rush. I have t
112 SCL767 : I have been able to get two really cheap tickets on NK, FLL-MCO-FLL and FLL-DCA-FLL. Since I only had carry-on I checked in online, I did not have to
113 A388 : That's why they are called an ultra low cost airline You are absolutely right my friend Who says NK is aiming for the local POS market and not the in
114 SCL767 : AA has had POS on sale for 223.00 USD for a while now.
115 A388 : Okay but is that fare all-included? A388
116 SCL767 : I just checked, its 231.20 USD all-included, same with FLL-KIN, and MIA-PTY.
117 Caribbean484 : Yep from since May round trip. We can only assume here, but most for their pax is O&D, if they are going for the connecting pax then more luck to the
118 SCL767 : AA MIA to MGA, SAP, GUA and SJO are on sale for around 250.00 USD too.
119 A388 : Okay thanks. I get the feeling you just don't like NK. Because I get the impression you just don't like NK and will never have anything good to say a
120 Caribbean484 : I want to do a comparision for fares and sector legs: MIA-BGI: Lowest fare one way US$244, 1400nm AA only MIA/FLL-POS: Lowest fare US$79, 1410nm, AA,
121 SCL767 : Let's just say that I am going to Bogota on LAN for under 300.00 USD! LAN Peru also competes with NK at LIM.
122 A388 : Okay thanks SCL767. A388
123 Caribbean484 : Yeah, The lowest fare MIA/FLL, is US$230 one way, AA, NK, LAN. They are a good company, but I will aviod travel with them, I have my preferences just
124 SCL767 : Wait until you see LAN's service as compared to its competitors. I received a nice letter from Mr. Cueto from LAN yesterday too; it really is the bes
125 2travel2know : For some reason, nowadays, TA reminds me of NK and B6 more and more. Is that where the Latinamerican and Caribbean legacy-airlines are going? If gas p
126 JM079 : After spending some time in Lauderdale for the last two weeks flying NW and connecting in DTW and MEM I will surely miss NW as I think they have a goo
127 BigMac : On Friday around 15 minutes in flight there was an engine failure on PY 994 (PBM-AMS), which is operated by their 743. The 743 dumped fuel and returne
128 Post contains links HummingBird : Caribbean Aviation News Equipment malfunction disrupts flights at Cheddi Jagan airport... http://www.stabroeknews.com/news/four-flights-cancelled/ Del
129 AirJamaica : Interesting development here but not totally surprising. Eager to see JM's response to this. Do you think they will will now want to consider MBJ-YYZ
130 JM017 : I hope JM tries to tap into that market as well. Could be very lucrative for them. But I think AC will have the leg up on them here. Code share for a
131 Post contains links JM079 : I am not sure that JM is willing to consider the return to the YYZ MBJ as historically that route has been severely underperformed in terms of revenu
132 JM079 : When JM came back on the YYZ route the flight was to operate as follows: KIN/MBJ/YYZ/KIN but AC protested and instead offered the present plan that i
133 SCL767 : No, AA doesn't offer double miles on the POS route. BW does out of FLL, and AA offers Double Miles to/from Fort Lauderdale And Kingston, Jamaica. MIA
134 2travel2know : Flying (sending) the passengers to CAY and flying them to AMS via CDG/ORY not an option? If there're so many Jamaicans in the great Toronto area, how
135 SCL767 : Easier to route them through CUR/AUA then onwards to AMS.
136 Caribbean484 : NK would have to go into the connecting pax on that route, there is very little BGI VFR in the South Florida. AA gets its pax from all other cities,
137 JM017 : Touche. They do take the gov't support and the the VFR market for granted. I know, but I really wish they would tap into that market. But it's clear
138 BigMac : I think the main reason is that PY only has 1 743 (which btw is flown 3 times weekly) so it would not be economical to have/buy a spare (how much doe
139 SCL767 : I don't know how PY will be able to accommodate these displaced passengers. Hopefully they will source another airline to accommodate them.
140 2travel2know : And as long as JM continues to mainly target the leisure market, it'll keep hurting JM (and the Jamaican national budget). Well that's the price Jama
141 JM079 : JM mandate was never one that embrace the business class model as the market to the caribbea is already dominated by others. The airline has marketed
142 2travel2know : Very true, that JM image by itself is an asset but "Best leisure carrier" not necessarily means profitable. For how long Jamaicans will throw away re
143 AirCanada014 : As much I hate to see AC and JM ending their relationship and codesharing, wouldn't AC just put B767-300 on daily service and allow JM to offer codesh
144 A388 : Surinam Airways' only option is to have another airline pick up these stranded passengers, in other words outsource these flights. Whether they have
145 SCL767 : Exactly, didn't MP recently drop PBM?
146 2travel2know : Who could provide PY those badly needed flights? A European (charter) airline, a Southamerican airline? I could think of French (because CAY is next
147 SCL767 : PY NEEDS to get a replacement for the 743 soon. But the Surinamese Government is very protectionist over SLM and will not let a French or Brazilian a
148 2travel2know : I'm taking about flying the passengers currently stranded in PBM back to AMS now, not about given away PY routes to French or Brazilan airlines.
149 Post contains links SCL767 : Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 148): I'm taking about flying the passengers currently stranded in PBM back to AMS now, not about given away PY routes to
150 JM079 : In the 1980s JM had ceased operating on the KIN/MBJ to route and AC operated exclusively using a combination of the 767 and 747 and later the 340 dur
151 Post contains links HummingBird : Caribbean Avaition News Calm returns to AA counters at BGI... http://www.nationnews.com/story/301225560211664.php http://www.nationnews.com/story/2923
152 A388 : MP's fleet is already maxed out so to speak. They have one of the highest utilization rates. The time I lived in Holland I have very seldomly seen a
153 BigMac : UPDATE ON PY B743 In an earlier post I wrote that PY would fly in a new engine. This is incorrect. Their B743 will be flown empty and obviously on 3 e
154 HummingBird : Thanks for the update...... That will be one hefty bill for PY.....How were the passengers compensated?... How many rotations will The Greek carrier
155 Post contains links and images A388 : As Hellenic Imperial Airways to my knowledge is the only Greek 747 operator I assume they will be flying the PBM-AMS route. This airline has been spo
156 HummingBird : I found this info.... SLM994 Surinaamse Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.v. "Surinam" Aircraft Boeing 747-200 (quad-jet) (H/B742/Q) Origin Johan A Pengel In
157 WestIndian425 : Wow! I didn't know all this was going on! What's happening at the Empire these days?
158 SCL767 : " target=_blank>http://www.nationnews.com/story/2923...1.php And people say NK's staff hide when there's a problem...I don't understand these heavy d
159 Yellowtail : These are so low.....dang... Lowest Fare AA one way -BZE-MIAUS$339.00......approx 800nm....Yes...AA enjoys nice yields.
160 Captaink : From what I understand, it also resulted in drama at JM's counter. If the AA staff at BGI is anything like at GND, they just accommodate passengers w
161 SCL767 : Do you know which flight it was? MIA or JFK?
162 SCL767 : I believe it was the BGI-JFK flight which diverted to ANU for some reason; not 100% sure though.
163 HummingBird : I find it strange for their B767s to have these frequent maintenance issues.. I never understood this market.....What percentage is VFR compared with
164 Dominicl316 : Delta is increasing flights in the USVI, not BVI. BVI airports can't handle jets![Edited 2008-08-11 11:29:24]
165 Post contains links and images HummingBird : Thanks... Here is an interesting article regarding additional baggage fees to the Cayman Islands...I am not sure if this policy has been extended to
166 Yellowtail : depends on the time of year and day of week....generally about 40-60% VFR to MIA....lots of business traffic and lots transferring to POS/BGI/KIN ..A
167 Caribbean484 : Most airlines budgeted their fuel expenses between US$60 to US$70 per barrel, oil is still about 1.5 to 2 times that amount, now charging for baggage
168 A388 : AA now charges for both bags, including to CUR so I assume they implemented that systemwide, both local and international, regardless of the competit
169 MAH4546 : AA does not charge for bags to CUR nor any international destination (except Canada) or on any international itinerary. US Airways is the one chargin
170 A388 : I was under the impression they did as people here in CUR were also speaking of the baggage charges, but okay, thankfully this does not apply to us.
171 Post contains links HummingBird : Caribbean Aviation Update......... Increased capacity for BGI's Civil Aviation.. http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/NewViewNewsleft.cfm?Record=36407 *Dur
172 WestIndian425 : Things awfully quiet all of a sudden! How did things turn out with the AA customers at BGI?
173 Post contains links JM079 : Airone has now shifted operation to Barbados and will start flying as of March next year. http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/magaz...TO_BEGIN_SERVICE_BY_N
174 Post contains links and images HummingBird : Caribbean Aviation News.. Congratulations to Cayman Airways on it's 40th Anniversary.... The company had a bash at it's headquarters last week.. http:
175 A388 : " target=_blank>http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/magaz...L.asp Interesting news! Let's see how this works out. Keep us informed on all the latest on Ai
176 Captaink : Anyone knows the exact start date of MIA/GND. I know I checked sometime during November and the flight is already bookable, getting into GND sometime
177 8B775ZQ : Liat has a new agreement with Carib Aviation. LIAT ANNOUNCES NEW ARRANGEMENT WITH CARIB AVIATION ANTIGUA, Coolidge. August 13, 2008 – In July 2008,
178 AA1818 : November 20th or 22nd seems to come to mind but i'll double check and confirm. Spend more than 10 hours at TAB trying to get on standby. I got to the
179 Yellowtail : That is a long time on the ground...not good for utilization rates.....I would have thought a 7am departure might in order..or make it some sort of r
180 JM017 : A shame they wont set up in Jamaica. But that's in JM's best interest. What's the latest on the divestment of JM?
181 Post contains links AA1818 : November 2nd 2008. I know there was a '2' in there!!! hehe http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...erviceRoutes.jsp&anchorEvent=false AA1818
182 A388 : I'm not sure but you have a good question. If Airone will indeed have a similar concept/strategy as Ryanair, it can spell trouble as ticket fares wit
183 AA1818 : Very true. I'm quite suprised they opted for the 73G given that (according to many A.netters) the 738 has very similar and competitive trip costs whi
184 BWIA 772 : Hopefully with the threat of Airone the GOJ will allow Baroness Shirley et al the necessary space i.e lack of political interference needed to re orga
185 Trintocan : Congrats to Cayman Airways on the big four-O! As for the POS-TAB airbridge, complaints about lack of seats are nothing new, I have heard them througho
186 AA1818 : The Governemnt should end the current fare cap. 400 or 500 TTD for the round trip is still affordable, especially given the viable Ferry alternative
187 HummingBird : Based on the report BGI, GCM,GND,CUR,ANU will be their regional routes, while MIA, MCO and JFK will be their North American routes.....Looking at the
188 AA1818 : I thought this was decided already. Wasn't it that guy who also ran BWIA for some time?? AA1818
189 AA1818 : ..same here.. I wish them well and hope to see them in POS eventually. AA1818
190 Post contains images BWIA 772 : How come CAL did not put some 738s at the POS TAB routes didn't they do this for the Plymouth Jazz festival? Welcome Airone looking forward to you mak
191 Caribbean484 : The Trinidad and Tobago airbridge has always have problems every since before I was born, and as Trintocan said its not an easy problem to fix at all.
192 Inbound : At the time of the Jazz Festival, it wasn't such a peak time for the 737 usage. Now however, is extreme peak with all north american flights filled a
193 Beeweel15 : Well with the coming downsizing here in the US they should be able to pick up a few in the desert. The airbridge even back in the days of TTAS (Take
194 HummingBird : So many irregularities are transitioning within the company........Now they are back and forth with this decision.... Am still trying to figure out i
195 Post contains images SCL767 : Just got back from a two day conference in PTY and had a free day so I checked out the Canal; it was amazing to see how the locks work and the amount
196 A388 : Same here. A388
197 Post contains links HummingBird : With the current market trend..It will be a mixture of both VFR and leisure travellers...Knowing that Barbados is looking at increasing their overall
198 BWIA 772 : FLL did not do well because it is not a traditional destination for Barbadians like how it is for Jamaicans and Trinidadians. Additionally the promoti
199 Yellowtail : Hummingbird ..any chance of me getting some LF numbers for BZE (March/April)...haven't seen any ones in awhile. Thanks.
200 Captaink : Caribbean airports are not as expensive as major aiports in countries lika the USA, or the UK etc.. Just checked, flight gets in at 9:20pm leaves at
201 Yellowtail : Yeah...I remember the Midday rush a MIA...horrible...still makes me avoid MIA! Though I went through MIA 2 weeks ago about 2:30 ish....and was first i
202 SCL767 : In the U.S. the GOJ does an excellent job in promoting vacation packages to Jamaica. Hopefully, we will see the BTA do the same. By November, AA will
203 Trintocan : BeeweeL15, did TTAS actually use the DC-6's or were they the sole province of their predecessors Arawak and Caribbean United? I know the hummingbird s
204 JM017 : From some of the stories I have read, the unions have been a pain in the neck. But the fact is management has made a mess out of things.
205 9YCAL : CAL operates B738s on the POS/TAB/POS route. I will have to check the frequency but most times they are night flights, the one I always hear is BW290
206 Post contains links Caribbean484 : The new forum is up and running caribbean 43
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