FreakyDeaky From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 121 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 22098 times:
Wow!
Here's the report of a passenger that fell through the opening when a truck hit the airplane and moved it during boarding.
Ever since I read this a few years ago, I always step with purpose and do not lollygag around the end of the jetway.
KaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12027 posts, RR: 43 Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 22041 times:
Near injurious mishap. An unchocked, unbraked, Virgin Blue Airliner at Wellington NZ Airport.. rolls away from jet bridge a second after passenger/crew member disembarks.
Although the description looks to be WAY off, I hope they at least got the location right..
AC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 784 posts, RR: 13 Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 21845 times:
When I first started at AC, some of my co-workers who are now retired told me of a few occasions where a couple of AC's 727's where blown by strong winds. One was blown almost 90 degrees and ended up with the left wing a few feet away from the passenger bridge.
A good gust would certainly move a 727 which is tail heavy and has a large vertical tail surface.
A couple of years ago, we were working an arriving A320 during really high wind conditions. Just after the Capt set the brakes, a gust moved the plane about two feet off the Lead-in Line. The chokes were not placed under the wheels at the time and the ramp had a few small patches of ice, but mainly dry. It was nerve racking to say the least. Even the pilots were white faced.
In life, some days you are the bug..... some days you are the windshield!
Speedmarque From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 678 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 21788 times:
Also happened simultaneously to TWO NW 747 at LGW in 1992. They were on the sattelite terminal. Both were damaged by hitting ground equipment.
Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 21658 times:
Maybe 30 people were still hanging around in the tail when cleaning / catering entered the ship. The ground crew unloaded the front hold already but not the aft one yet.
Platinumfoota From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 543 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 21188 times:
That is one crazy video. "An unchocked, unbraked, Virgin Blue Airliner". If the jetway was on then why was this aircraft unchocked, unbraked?
Chris133 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 303 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 21011 times:
I have had that happen to me in BUF and BWI. Both times all three wheels were chocked and the push back hooked up but the plane spun about 10 feet. on a side not i have also had one slide back down the j line on the ice (just got the door closed in time on that one)
DavidkunzVIE From Austria, joined Mar 2007, 431 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 20934 times:
Quoting Platinumfoota (Reply 8): That is one crazy video. "An unchocked, unbraked, Virgin Blue Airliner". If the jetway was on then why was this aircraft unchocked, unbraked?
Mmh...sometimes it's recommendable not to believe everthing that is claimed. Evidently, the 737 didn't "roll".
WLG really is a windy place.
BravoGolf From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 535 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 20687 times:
Don't forget to chock the bridge too. We had two bridges, at different times, move with strong west gusts. The wind overpowered the brakes!
PiedmontINT From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 376 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 20361 times:
Quoting Platinumfoota (Reply 8): That is one crazy video. "An unchocked, unbraked, Virgin Blue Airliner". If the jetway was on then why was this aircraft unchocked, unbraked?
Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Reply 10): Mmh...sometimes it's recommendable not to believe everthing that is claimed.
It sure doesn't look like there are any chocks down there.. look closely at the #1 side main gear right after the plane moves.. wouldn't you be able to see the chocks after that? I have watched this video a few times and there seems to be no possible way a plane could slide like that without being chocked. If the ramp was covered in ice I could possibly see it slide even if chocked, but no way on a dry ramp like in the video.
Jetboy319 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 20361 times:
I'm just curious, if the wind was strong enough to move an aircraft, how come the ground agents weren't blown around as well?
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5341 posts, RR: 11 Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 20361 times:
We get very strong winds here in Anchorage, Alaska.
The company I now work for (didn't for for them when this happened) years ago had a short body 727 get spun around by the wind.... the gust parked her BETWEEN 2 DC-6 freighters on the ramp, WITHOUT HITTING EITHER ONE! Everyone out on the ramp watched it happen, and were hollering and running towards, and they away from, the 727... and couldn't believe she didn't hit either DC-6.
That was a very lucky night.
But yeah, when our ramps and taxiways get icy, there's no telling what will happen. JAL had a 747-200 freighter taxi onto a patch of ice and get 'weather-vaned' around, and then slid backwards down the hill and into a ditch.
He'd been warned not to taxi there, but was quite confident his 747 was heavy enough. Oops.
Missourifarmer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 42 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 20066 times:
Quoting Jetboy319 (Reply 13): I'm just curious, if the wind was strong enough to move an aircraft, how come the ground agents weren't blown around as well?
My thoughts excatly!! Does not even look like the jackets the agents were wearing blew that hard in the wind.
BristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2135 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 19346 times:
Quoting Missourifarmer (Reply 15): My thoughts excatly!! Does not even look like the jackets the agents were wearing blew that hard in the wind.
Perhaps if there was still a load of weight in the back, like...
BristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2135 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 19323 times:
Quoting FreakyDeaky (Reply 2): Ever since I read this a few years ago, I always step with purpose and do not lollygag around the end of the jetway.
Absolutely. I'm either 100% in the jetway or 100% in the plane (with an idea about somewhere that I can 'hold on' if required).
National757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 717 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 19167 times:
Quoting FreakyDeaky (Reply 2):
Quoting FreakyDeaky (Reply 2):
Ever since I read this a few years ago, I always step with purpose and do not lollygag around the end of the jetway.
Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 18):
Absolutely. I'm either 100% in the jetway or 100% in the plane (with an idea about somewhere that I can 'hold on' if required).
Honestly I never gave it much thought until reading this thread. Thanks for posting that NTSB report FreakyDeaky!
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Freeze3192 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 126 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 18323 times:
"A passenger bets his life that his pilot is a worthy heir to an ancient tradition of excellence and professionalism."
N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 7993 posts, RR: 27 Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 18177 times:
Quoting Jetboy319 (Reply 13): I'm just curious, if the wind was strong enough to move an aircraft, how come the ground agents weren't blown around as well?
It really depends on where the wind came from, and how sheltered the nose area was. Keep in mind, the tail is a big flat surface that sticks up pretty high into the wind. If the airplane was tail heavy and a gust caught the tail, it'd pivot the whole jet around. The wind doesn't have to hit the nose.
BristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2135 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 16981 times:
Quoting National757 (Reply 19): Honestly I never gave it much thought until reading this thread.
Have you ever stepped from one carriage to the next on a train? I bet you gave it some thought then!
Actually my thought re the jet bridge scenario was more a concern about the jetbridge collapsing as I have heard them doing, so I'm usually pretty keen to get inside the door of the a/c.
Pohakuloa From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 370 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 16679 times:
Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 18): Quoting FreakyDeaky (Reply 2):
Ever since I read this a few years ago, I always step with purpose and do not lollygag around the end of the jetway.
Absolutely. I'm either 100% in the jetway or 100% in the plane (with an idea about somewhere that I can 'hold on' if required).
I learned this lesson a while ago as well. I am morbidly obese and a few times when walking out on the lip of the jet bridge the bridge decided to kneel on its own. This happened on several occasions, but hasnt happened since then. But I still wait over the wheels of the jetbtidge until i have a clear shot into the aircraft.
25 JetMech: Nice video! It appears that the gust starts initially at the 9 second mark, strengthened again at the 17 second mark, before becoming strong enough t
26 Platinumfoota: Im still scatching my head on this one. Rule on the ramp has always been, no brake release until jetway is off, if brakes are hot, you must chock. (H
27 JetMech: Fair enough, this is pretty much the same procedure I am used to as well. The rules I have to abide by generally change depending on the LAME who is
28 Platinumfoota: Common practice here, but never with passengers boarding. Heard of a Captain who's licence was pulled for doing so.
29 JetMech: Wow really!!?? Do you know more details of this incident? Was the Captain under external pressure to kick off the brakes? It's a very harsh way to lo
30 Platinumfoota: A pilot for the airline I work for told me the story but didn't go into details. I'm trying to find the FAA regulation that states you can only get a
31 Crogalski: I'm wondering if it has something to do with a bypass steering pin. I'm not too familiar with Boeings, but I know that on our Airbuses, we have to put
32 Loran: The tail must have been hit, assuming the aircraft in the back departs into a headwind, the wind blows from the left, hence the tail got pushed. Not s
33 Maxisno1: That video has been on Youtube for a while now. At first I was stunned when I saw that - but then I realized that it was windy Wellington . If some of
34 Platinumfoota: On a 737 the Pin goes right above the NLG as well, nothing in the panel could engage the steering from the cockpit.
35 DL767captain: Why werent they chocked and braked?! WHOA that was intense!!!!
36 Dragon6172: I saw this as well. Just a very slightly perceptible move of the aircraft. Very well could be the only reason the aircraft did not swing further arou
37 Tlynch: Windy day at Dublin !!!!!! EI-CRK "St Brigid" , A333 on stand 33 swings around under the wing of EI-DAA "Caoimhe , St Keeva", A332 on stand 34 [Edited
38 HAWK21M: Out here its mandatory that The Chocks [six] should be in place and/or parking brake set at Gate. Rules are rules...they need to be followed.The swing
39 Lexy: All I have to say is that's creepy looking and downright funny as heck all in the same breath! LOL!!! Weird but funny in a strange sort of way. Thanks
40 JetMech: Perhaps the park brake was set? I've been on many engine runs on 767's for example, where we have only being running one engine. Despite the fact tha
41 GSPSPOT: Why aren't the ramp personnel & other equipment being blown all over the place??
42 NEMA: Like many others here, i find this is amazing to see that gust of wind move the plane in the first video and a bit funny too at the end when it looks
43 MTSUATC: I'm not sure about other airlines policies but at mine as long as the tow bar is attached to the nose gear and to the push back it does not need to b
44 Viscount724: It wasn't a freighter, it was a JAL passenger 747-200 departing for HND (last sector of a CDG-LHR-ANC-HND flight) with 101 passengers and 20 crew abo
45 AA767400: They don't call it "Windy Wellington" for nothing!
46 N766UA: They were at an airline I used to work, or at least it seemed that way. Often, as soon as you'd give them the 'chocks in' sign, they'd release the br
47 Maxisno1: This made the 6pm news here today. http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/Nationa...articleID/66206/Default.aspx#video http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/1318241/19908
49 Maxisno1: The full story http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/1318241/1990856
50 777ER: This happened in June this year, and yes the airport is correct, its WLG. The video was unlawfully uploaded onto youtube after a pilot got his hands o
51 HAWK21M: Out here its mandatory to use min six chocks on wheels during adverse weather.In addition Parking brake set too. regds MEL
52 Nzrich: That is true but WLG has a lot more windy days than AKL and as i fly to both of these two airports 4-5 days a week i can say WLG has AKL beat easily
53 Czbbflier: Also, the aircraft moves twice.... once at 9 seconds- it is almost imperceptible but it moves maybe two or three inches. At 16 seconds, the jetway ris
54 HAWK21M: True.Else the swing would have def been more.Is there another link to this video,as the original one is slow to load. regds MEL
55 DTWAGENT: Ok that is just crazy. That must have been one strong storm with some high winds to move 3 planes sideways..... chuck
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