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UA Seat Unbolts On Take Off On SEA-SFO Flight  
User currently offlineRgreenftm From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 296 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4158 times:

Anybody know anything more about this than this article?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26012999

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User currently offlineType-Rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4841 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4130 times:

I don't think the people would be "crushed" per se, but I am willing to bet that they were awfully uncomfortable and probably scared never expecting to have something like that happen to them. But if the seats stayed put and then suddenly released, then it could have been somewhat painful.

UA taking photos of seats - CYA move, they just know the lawsuits will be coming.



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User currently offlineJumbojet From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4089 times:



Quoting Rgreenftm (Thread starter):
Anybody know anything more about this than this article?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26012999

United Airlines Flight 1139 took off at about 7 p.m.

The passenger says mechanics came on board to tighten the bolts and take photos of the seats.

Flight 1139 resumed to San Francisco at about 9:30 p.m.

2 1/2 hours to tighten a bolt? WOW


User currently offlineAlaska737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1062 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3962 times:

They should start charging for bolts. 5 bucks per bolt, how safe do you want your seat to be?

User currently offlineKBFIspotter From United States of America, joined May 2005, 729 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3919 times:



Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 2):
2 1/2 hours to tighten a bolt? WOW

Well, since it returned to the field, it is an NTSB reportable incident. There is a lot of paperwork involved in these as well. Depending on how severe the incident, and if pax were injured or not, there needs to be a release from the NTSB, if I am not mistaken (I could be wrong on this).

I am amazed I did not hear about this sooner, as I was at work at SEA when this happened...

Kris



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User currently offlineSq2ams From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3901 times:



Quoting Alaska737 (Reply 3):
They should start charging for bolts. 5 bucks per bolt, how safe do you want your seat to be?

Now that really makes me mad.......that you beat me to it. I'm willing to bet if they do charge a fee for tightening your bolt it will be at least $25.00.


User currently offlineKellmark From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 683 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3865 times:



Quoting Type-Rated (Reply 1):
don't think the people would be "crushed" per se, but I am willing to bet that they were awfully uncomfortable and probably scared never expecting to have something like that happen to them. But if the seats stayed put and then suddenly released, then it could have been somewhat painful.

I disagree. If you count the weight of the people in the seats in front of you, plus the seats themselves plus the rate of acceleration on takeoff, you could have quite serious injuries. The deck angle after takeoff would also make it worse.

I sure wouldn't want to be trapped like that.


User currently offlinePlatinumfoota From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 554 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3749 times:
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Ah yes a seat issue, I haven't heard of one of these for a while. I remember a delayed flight due to a "soiled seat". Also an aircraft was brought back to the gate because a seat didn't have a seat belt. How do you lose a seat belt?? I hope the passenger wasn't seriously hurt


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User currently offlineHercPPMX From United States of America, joined May 2008, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3741 times:



Quoting Sq2ams (Reply 5):
Now that really makes me mad.......that you beat me to it. I'm willing to bet if they do charge a fee for tightening your bolt it will be at least $25.00.

Of Course and an additional $10 if you want them to use lock-tite so they wont come loose with a little chop at cruise.



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User currently offlineZWZWUnited From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3708 times:

Was this really an accident, or just a way for US legacy carriers to reduce seat-pitch and increase capacity? Collapsible seating anyone...?  silly 

~Tim  Smile



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User currently offlineCrewchief From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3471 times:

"Passengers were given several options for gifts from the airline for the inconvenience, including bonus miles and travel credits."

Unbelievable -- I wonder if they got a round trip voucher, where they have to pay a fee to book the flight, are at a status where they likely will get bumped, and will be in the back of the plane....where the seat pitch is close to where it was when the seat slipped....


User currently offlinePlaneWasted From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3437 times:

I wonder how heavy the passengers in the sliding seat row were.  duck 

User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4011 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3367 times:

I think it happened because the passengers in that row failed to pay $9 each to assure that they'd be in safe seats.

User currently offline2175301 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1022 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3219 times:

Has United instituted the Maintenance Surcharge yet on its tickets for some flights to pay for normal maintenance given the raise in prices of parts and contractors.

Passengers could also "voluntarily" pay a specific "Planed Maintenance" Fee to ensure that the flight they were on was fully maintained and cleaned to the highest standards prior to boarding, and that parts were stocked at the originating and final destination of the aircraft to handle problems - that is assuming that at least 50% of the pre-booked passengers paid the fee.

United (and other airlines) are only in the business of moving people from point A to point B, and it makes business sense to only have the minimal number of systems and equipment in service for each flight and to only clean the cabin to minimal standards. Better maintenance than that is a service.


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