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Tame Switching Tulcan For Esmeraldas From Cali  
User currently offlineClo1973 From Colombia, joined Apr 2006, 240 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2347 times:

Hello ...

Maybe someone from Ecuador could explain me why TAME decided to switch the stop over in its CLO - UIO flight from Tulcan to Esmeraldas?...when did they start it ?.....personally I think is a mistake, but maybe TAME knows something I don´t

Thanks

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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17285 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

Why the stop in the first place? And what is in ESM or TUA?


E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineAirportmanager From Ecuador, joined Mar 2001, 558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2282 times:

With all do respect to people from Tulcan..... TUA. but Tulcan is probably one of Ecuador's most boring and unappealing cities EVER! Cold, in the middle of no where, NOTHING To do, far away, unaccessible, horrible looking. Now, Esmeraldas, is the beach, a number of resorts, the RUTA DEL SOL< a road that goes through Ecuador's beaches, all of the most important ones, starts there, there is a port, there's many oil business there, there's interesting mangroves. Thats probably one of the reasons..... a person in CALI could consider the beaches and all of the above, BEFORE the cows and the cold high lands with nothing but rain.

Second, its 100 dollars cheaper now to fly from ESM, because load factors are higher and they can fill up the plane with pax and fuel, (Sea level) and no need to fill up with fuel in CLO where fuel is more expensive...... therefore, prices go down... get it? Thats it, its just operationally smarter and also for the tourism reasons in my opinion.

Ohh and sorry, to Maverick, forgot to reply to your post. Why the stop, because this is not an international flight. Its an "inter-Frontier" if you can call it such. This is a special treaty made by colombia and Ecuador, which means that they are international flights operated from secondary airports (Low cost idea) with lower prices and lower rates. In other words, the airline and pax pays much less going out through these secondary airports, they dont offer the same facilities, but you still leave the country.

Honestly, Id do ANYTHING to not pay the airport tax you must pay in UIO. 40 dollars, for the worst airport in Ecuador, and southam in my opinion? Screw QUIPORT and the concession. They are thiefs, that price is exaggerated. We pay so much to get NOTHING. I prefer to pay 7 dollars to go out one of these special airports. So thats why they stop in these airports, to avoid costs therefore make tickets cheaper.

Thats when ICARO, started their flights directly from UIO, they were a tad more expensive, plus airport taxes in crappy UIO.

[Edited 2008-08-06 00:01:15]

User currently offlineClo1973 From Colombia, joined Apr 2006, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2258 times:



Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 2):
With all do respect to people from Tulcan..... TUA. but Tulcan is probably one of Ecuador's most boring and unappealing cities EVER! Cold, in the middle of no where, NOTHING To do, far away, unaccessible, horrible looking. Now, Esmeraldas, is the beach, a number of resorts, the RUTA DEL SOL< a road that goes through Ecuador's beaches, all of the most important ones, starts there, there is a port, there's many oil business there, there's interesting mangroves. Thats probably one of the reasons..... a person in CALI could consider the beaches and all of the above, BEFORE the cows and the cold high lands with nothing but rain.

Thanks for your answer and it is very sound (the gas issue I read it in a paper yesterday and it also makes sense). I only thought that Tulcan was a good idea because (besides Quito), Cali is the other major city they are closer to (hence, there is some business going on), and besides that, Ipiales is close to Tulcan (hence, if you go from Cali to Ipiales you can take Tame and fly in a jet, rather than Satena and fly in a turboprop).

Please tell the people of TAME one thing.......ADVERTISE the route to Esmeraldas!....up to now I have not seen a newspaper article in EL PAIS (Cali´s leading newspaper)!


User currently offlineClo1973 From Colombia, joined Apr 2006, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2256 times:



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 1):
Why the stop in the first place? And what is in ESM or TUA?

What airportmanager told you is the truth, I just want to give you some numbers.

CLO - UIO ticket (either by Avianca or Tame) is about US$250. By stopping in TUA (now in ESM) Tame´s passengers do not have to pay taxes which in the case of Colombia are about US$50 (20% of the air fare!).

Although I truly believe TAME has not taking advantage of this and advertise it properly to gain more passengers.


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