SJC>SFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1365 times:
Yeah I noticed on Continental's website that they have about 3 747-200s (didn't even know they had operated these) 6 Dc-10s, and a couple of 727s. All you rich yuppies out there should go buy yourself a big airplane!
Trintocan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1350 times:
I flew on one of UA's 747SP's in 1993, from MIA to IAD. The flight continued to CDG and Geneva. That was the only 747 that I have ever flown on. I am aware that UA got those planes from PA when it bought the Pacific routes from the struggling pioneer airline. All the same, the flight was OK but the interior looked dated and the IFE was also primitive, compared to that in the 757-222 which I had flown on that same day.
It is sad to see the classics go, though. With only 45 or so built and their unique characteristics, 747SPs will be hard to sell.
Na From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1304 times:
Yes, 747SP.com is a great site. And it has all the answers, although the news pouring in are getting lesser and lesser - like the aircraft in service.
The SP is one of my favourite aircraft of all time because its so special in any aspect. Unique looks, size, rarity, history. And there´s one of the best books in aviation donated to this plane, written by Brian Baum.
The SP is like a Rolls-Royce to me: Impressive, oldfashioned, technically not up-to-date but very emotional. Maybe thats why its only truly market success is with some of the richest Roll-Royce drivers in the world: the Arabian Kings and Sheiks. They use them not so often so even if these planes are rare you´ll see one or the other still well into the next decade. I wonder if some might be re-engined after a few have been modified with 744-style two-man-cockpits already.
Its sad to see that most SPs are just sitting years in the desert after being retired from airline service. The Korean duo, the Air China planes, the United/Pan Am-fleet. I don´t think that the United aircraft will see another operator except the "SOFIA"-plane. They have been used very extensively, a very high "mileage" on the clock.
And the SPs safety statistic is excellent: Not a single one has been involved in a serious accident, only one 23-year-old SP was an insurance write-off after a relatively minor incident (engine blown-off) at an somewhat exotic location (Mozambique) two years ago.
Na From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1299 times:
No way, because it would be exactly where the - less impressive - B777-200 and the A340-300 are competing now (btw I would prefer to fly in a 747X-SP rather than in a 777).
But I would bet that such an airplane would be a bestseller with Arabian kings and others sitting on earth´s most precious resources. Means that a small series of up to 25 guilded Jumbos could be sold in a 10 year production run.
ATA L1011 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1285 times:
Some of them are at Marana, and some has been broken up at Ardmore, Ok I am not sure of how many. I t would be nice If that company Jet Acquisitions that was interested in TWA pick the remaining ones up along with some ex DL. Tristars and a few Md-80'S and form a new airline!
Mit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1241 times:
"How do you zero the time frame?"
Easy: purchase 747SP. Take cash equivalent to purchase price of 777 and spend on repairs/upgrades to 747SP. Voila ... a super cool 20 year old airliner, that all the 20 year old airline enthusiasts really like. And the operating/acquisition costs are only 25-50% higher than 777!
[remove tongue from cheek]
I would love to see this happen. But airlines are pretty good at figuring out which planes will make them money. The market has voted on the 747SP and the answer is a resounding no.