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Air Ivoire A321 To Be Scrapped ...?  
User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5815 times:

AIR IVOIRE Airbus A321 F-OIVU may be the first A321 to be scrapped soon ...

Last month this aircraft suffered a VERY hard landing (almost 3g force on impact !!!), but the airline continued to operate it for 10 days without any further verifications.

During a routine check at Paris-ORY by AF maintenance staff, the heavy damages caused to the main landing gear, cell fuselage, and many other vital parts were discovered and despite the wish of Air Ivoire to fly back the bird to ABJ to repair it (!) the decision was taken by both Airbus and AF Mx to ground it.

It is currently stored at ORY, inside the AF maintenance hangar. According to the Mx staff I met this afternoon, the plane needs costly fixing and a complete D check. As the overall cost could raise higher than the value of the plane itself it could be simply written off and scrapped ...

F-OIVU is msn 1017.
Leased from GECAS as G-OOAJ, it was operated by Air 2000 (then First Choice Airways) from May 1999 to May 2004 and then returned to lessor.

Operated a first time by AIR IVOIRE as F-OIVU from Jun.2004 to FEB.2005, it was transferred to AIGLE AZUR for 10 months and returned to AIR IVOIRE in Dec 2005.

It would be the second A321 to be written off (First one was Transasia Airlines msn 602, B22603 ) and the first one to be scrapped ... sad !  Sad



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User currently offlineKL577 From Netherlands, joined Oct 2006, 776 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5675 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Thread starter):

Last month this aircraft suffered a VERY hard landing (almost 3g force on impact !!!), but the airline continued to operate it for 10 days without any further verifications.

I always thought aircraft were routinely checked immediately after hard landings.

Do you know where this landing occured and in what circumstances? In West-Africa Air Ivoire is considered a relatively safe airline. Many people use it for coast-hopping flights, e.g. COO-DL A .


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5646 times:



Quoting KL577 (Reply 1):
I always thought aircraft were routinely checked immediately after hard landings.

Normally they have to !

Quoting KL577 (Reply 1):
Do you know where this landing occured and in what circumstances?

No. But the fact that there was no check and that the aircraft continued to be used after the incident made the damages caused even worse.


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5275 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Thread starter):
As the overall cost could raise higher than the value of the plane itself it could be simply written off and scrapped ...

A 1999 build A321 with the highest MTOW-rated software and CFM56 engines is worth between US$35-40m by my guess.

I find it hard to imagine that a complete D check costs even 15% of this figure. Even a completely new gear wouldnt even come close to this.

If she is truly to be written off then she must have been overstressed (see the IB A320 at BIO) in which case a D check and new gear is totally irrelevent.

If they are talking about a D check and new gear then they'll fix her.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5246 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Thread starter):
It would be the second A321 to be written off (First one was Transasia Airlines msn 602, B22603 ) and the first one to be scrapped

What happened to that one, if it was scrapped but not written off?


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5182 times:



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 4):
Quoting FlySSC (Thread starter):
It would be the second A321 to be written off (First one was Transasia Airlines msn 602, B22603 ) and the first one to be scrapped

What happened to that one, if it was scrapped but not written off?

Landed on top of some construction vehicles at Tainan IIRC. Nobody killed but it smashed the fuselage up pretty good.

She was written off and scrapped.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineFrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3766 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5127 times:



Quoting KL577 (Reply 1):
I always thought aircraft were routinely checked immediately after hard landings.

Unless it's not reported? Does the Airbus maintenance computer detect these?

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 5):
She was written off and scrapped.

Then that'd make the Air Ivoire one the second?



Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10736 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5120 times:

Btw Air Ivoire has just leased a South African 737-200. If thats meant as a cheap temporary replacement I can´t tell. Only thing thats clear: It´ll guzzle a lot more fuel per pax.

User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5099 times:



Quoting Francoflier (Reply 6):
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 5):
She was written off and scrapped.

Then that'd make the Air Ivoire one the second?

Indeed it would.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineFraport From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5072 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Thread starter):
Last month this aircraft suffered a VERY hard landing (almost 3g force on impact !!!), but the airline continued to operate it for 10 days without any further verifications.

... despite the wish of Air Ivoire to fly back the bird to ABJ to repair it (!) the decision was taken by both Airbus and AF Mx to ground it.

This sounds scary! Maybe it would be a good idea to ground their whole fleet and not only this aircraft.


User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10736 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5063 times:



Quoting Fraport (Reply 9):
This sounds scary! Maybe it would be a good idea to ground their whole fleet and not only this aircraft.

At least there should be an investigation. To insist on flying with an apparently totally unsafe aircraft is a serious matter. Not reporting a very heavy landing is as well.


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2392 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4982 times:
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Hi FLYSSC !

I've had a chat with an AF captain last week in ABJ. One of his good friends was fleet manager Airbus 321 with VU.
He did tell me that the main issue was financial, so I'm surprised to hear about a write-off.
Though it was well known that the landing had been very very rough...
But the cost of a complete D-check + new landing gear may be fatal for this bird I assume.

BTW, is Air Comet operating for VU with an A313 (MRS+ORY ?)

Because I also heard that VU was to lease a Jordanian 767 ??

Merci  Wink

FB.



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