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Flying Under An August Moon: Irish 31/08  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12594 posts, RR: 34
Posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8928 times:

Dia dhaoibh a chairde and welcome to the 31st thread of the year!

Despite it being August, there are still quite a few things going on:

- Aer Lingus looking for a new chairman
- Passenger numbers at EI and DUB holding up, although growth slowing considerably; FR again showing significant growth,
- FR apparently looking to make a very large new aircraft order
- Oil prices on a downward slide
- Some investment plans for regional airports cut back, due to downturn in public finances ... everyone apparently waiting for decision to defer or cancel Metro North?

Unfortunately, the litany of economic bad news is continuing, even stepping up a pace, with news of more job losses and - as mentioned above - the worsening state of the public purse. Ultimately, this will have an effect on aviation, although one can only hope that this will be limited to a significant slowdown in growth, rather than a severe pruning of routes

One of the major stories to watch, IMHO, is the much rumoured and discussed new FR order and indeed, how FR fares generally in an environment where there is much less scope for discretionary travel; it will be an area where people will cut back. Also, government taxes, particularly in UK and other countries - have pretty much eliminated the very low price ticket. On one level, one would think that the ultra low cost carrier has the best chance of survival, but I have my concerns about FR; how is the oil price affecting its breakeven LF? Could the rumoured new order be an attempt to divert attention away from the airline's actual position? How will changed consumer behaviour in an economic downturn affect its business plan?

And let's not lose focus on EI either; despite the airline's pax numbers exceeding 1m in a month for the first time, let's not lose sight of the fact that t/a pax actually declined year-on-year, something which will have to be addressed; sure, LFs are holding up, but if you can't exceed 80% in July or August ... The decline in pax numbers also needs to be seen in the context of increased capacity (two new aircraft and closure of DXB route), so there is room for some concern. The airline may find that it will have to revisit the decision to put all of its capacity into the US market, especially with three new aircraft coming on board next year (even if there is not a net growth in fleet numbers due to retirement). We also await news of a significant order from EI and to see whether, as predicted, it will go ahead with a new base? Also, with the softening of the economy, will both EI and RE decide to step up their co-operation. There's a lot of potential for mutual co-operation there.

Well, here goes No. 31; let's hope it sees some good news, despite the gathering storm.

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User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 3004 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8921 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
t/a pax actually declined year-on-year, something which will have to be addressed; sure, LFs are holding up, but if you can't exceed 80% in July or August

On EI125 SNN-DUB-ORD on 28th July there were exactly 20 empty seats on the A333 [I overheard the crew talking about the load] I'd say about 100 or so got on In Shannon. I thought it was a good sign anyway...



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27312 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8909 times:

Good morning all from DUB airport. Just checked into BA Club Europe. Airport not as busy as I thought and security took literally 4 mins !! I timed it. So fast I didn't even bother to go to Fast Track. Just here in Anna Livia lounge and they have un blocked Anet since I was last here. Nice to see so much progress on T2. Kudos to the check in staff at Aviance. Very professional and friendly as were the security staff.

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Ryanair hopes to buy 200 new planes at bargain price

RYANAIR SAYS it has been in talks with both Boeing and Airbus about aircraft purchases beyond 2012, chief executive Michael O’Leary said yesterday.

“We’ve been trying to talk to Boeing about orders beyond 2012 but their prices are too high,” he told reporters in London. “We’ve started talking with Airbus about the possibility of taking Airbus aircraft,” he added, although he said Airbus prices were also too high.

Ryanair’s fleet comprises about 160 Boeing aircraft and is due to rise to 300 aircraft by 2012. The likely size of the purchase would be 200 firm orders and options for an additional 200 planes, Mr O’Leary said.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...nance/2008/0808/1218142761557.html

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08 August 2008

Budget Travel’s profits take off

By Niamh Hennessy
BUDGET Travel, owned by Icelandic firm Primera, made a pre-tax profit of €4.3 million last year.


This follows pre-tax losses in the previous year of €1.9m, according to accounts just filed.

Revenue however was down from €164m in 2006 to €160m in 2007.

The company said the latest result is a positive turnaround from the previous year.

It said it carried 5% less passengers in 2007 than 2006, but this was a planned capacity reduction whereby unprofitable routes were shortened or eliminated.

http://www.irishexaminer.ie/irishexa...qa=business-qqqid=69297-qqqx=1.asp


User currently offlineSawtooth From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8882 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
... everyone apparently waiting for decision to defer or cancel Metro North?

The finance minister yesterday confirmed that the project would go ahead:

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...ead--insists-minister-1448272.html


User currently offlineAer Lingus From Ireland, joined May 2000, 1569 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8879 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
The airline may find that it will have to revisit the decision to put all of its capacity into the US market

China, Chine, China.........why oh why are we still waiting. PEK is within range. surely a 3x weekly service on a 332 would fill sufficiently with pax and cargo. the amount of chinese flying home and back is something i've lost count with. then there's tourism. LH are reaping the rewards. Even HKG is within range, a tie up with Cathay or Qantas........sigh


User currently offlineJWMD123 From Ireland, joined May 2006, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8873 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
And let's not lose focus on EI either; despite the airline's pax numbers exceeding 1m in a month for the first time, let's not lose sight of the fact that t/a pax actually declined year-on-year, something which will have to be addressed; sure, LFs are holding up, but if you can't exceed 80% in July or August ... The decline in pax numbers also needs to be seen in the context of increased capacity (two new aircraft and closure of DXB route), so there is room for some concern

Fantastic news that EI carried 1M pax in a month. I am sure one or two remember when they only carried that amount in a year!!!!!

I agree they should not lose focus re the LF however with capacity reductions coming on stream in the coming months (LAX going/aircraft refits) this should help improve overall LF.

Great news though on short-haul. The EI strategy appears to be working.

I think us Irish now, regardless of a recession or not still like our holidays abroad and will continue to fly at least intra-eruope. I think one of the links OA260 has given us is just an example.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
BUDGET Travel, owned by Icelandic firm Primera, made a pre-tax profit of €4.3 million last year.

I remember one economist saying a few months back that given the downturn, the people of Ireland will now have to become content with 3 holidays and year, not four and maybe only 2 cars in the driveway and not 3!!!!!  sarcastic   spin 


User currently offlineF1eddie From Ireland, joined May 2007, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8823 times:

Not sure if this was posted yesterday but i dont think it was.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0807/ryanair.html

What you guys think of this!!!! I suppose the sites FR refund the money to, will then in return will refund there customers.



Flown on EI, FR, BMI, TG, PG, FD, JQ, DJ, LA, NZ, SQ, DL, LX, LH
User currently offlineEIBoston From Ireland, joined Sep 2006, 460 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8795 times:

MOL talks about going into discussion with Airbus about new planes but Leahy basically said it a waste of their time and money to even have such discussions. I guess they are sick of FR using them to force Boeing to drop their prices. Can't blame them I guess.

User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8754 times:

EI's LF for July on Longhaul was 81% down from 82.7% despite the increase in capacity.
Short haul was 85.2 up from 85.1 an overall decrease of 0.7% for the month of July. The YTD figures however are a whole lot gloomier.

http://www.aerlingus.com/Corporate/ir_traffic_jul2008.pdf



John Hancock
User currently offlineStyles9002 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 534 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8730 times:

Long Haul load factors for Irish Lingus declined again; not good news. They should be paying denied boarding each night during peak summer. It is apparent that Irish Lingus now depend very heavily on eastbound originating passengers and this source is starting to weaken as the full effects of the credit crisis hit Ireland. They should focus more on competing with Ryanair on short to medium haul (where they have held their own) and pare back their long haul markets. Cutting DXB and LAX are a good start. How much longer before another station is cut? IAD perhaps? Who was the genius that scheduled the long haul fuel surcharge increase a few weeks ago as oil was failing $25 per barrel? Not good timing.

I know many of the posters on here drink the Irish Lingus Kool-Aid but a reality check is in order. The future of this airline is not in long haul, but on being a regional airline in short & medium haul travel, feeding one of the alliances. When AA/BA/IB gets ATI, things are going to get even tougher on the trans-Atlantic for EI.


Styles9002



It is what it is.
User currently offlineEireRock From Ireland, joined Nov 2007, 301 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8713 times:



Quoting JWMD123 (Reply 5):
Baby girl Caoimhe Born 4.57pm on 7.8.08. Weight 7lb 9 1/2ozs. She is Beautiful

Im guessing this is your new arrival JWMD123, congratulations to you and your family

On another note, i was trying last night to check EI flights to Athens next summer and i got a fault message saying that EI only operates between Sept2008 and Sept2009 to Athens. Are they dropping this route? If this has been asked in a previous thread then i apologise.


User currently offlineCOEI2007 From Vanuatu, joined Jan 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8706 times:

Quoting Aer Lingus (Reply 4):
China, Chine, China.........why oh why are we still waiting. PEK is within range. surely a 3x weekly service on a 332 would fill sufficiently with pax and cargo. the amount of chinese flying home and back is something i've lost count with. then there's tourism. LH are reaping the rewards. Even HKG is within range, a tie up with Cathay or Qantas........sigh

I'd love to see HKG!

Whats happening with the 330 fleet? Is a 330 being returned to the lessor next summer? I'd just heard they were waitin to see what will happen with oil etc, and if oil stayed high, they would wet-lease a 330 out to another carrier. I know on ei.com at the agm they said the fleet wouldnt grow beyond the current 9 units, and that the new 330 next year would replace one a/c. So if this does happen, will one 330-300 be refitted with new cabins?

Quoting Styles9002 (Reply 9):
Long Haul load factors for Irish Lingus declined again; not good news. They should be paying denied boarding each night during peak summer

650 seats per night ex JFK to DUB alone means they wont be paying out denied boarding unless they start selling off seats cheaply! Load factor is down because Americans wont travel to Ireland with the way the dollar has gone, and Irish are starting to realise that money might get tight. LAX is gone for the winter which will improve LF on SFO. UA's code-share should also help SFO/IAD and ORD. JFK, BOS and MCO are always busy!

[Edited 2008-08-08 09:07:59]

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6075 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8697 times:

PIA planning Dublin from January http://www.dawn.com/2008/08/08/local4.htm, however Barcelona has priority if both cant be launched together. DUB would be most likey from Lahore or Islamabad either nonstop or via Dubai if not a European city with A310.


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27312 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8663 times:



Quoting JWMD123 (Reply 5):
I remember one economist saying a few months back that given the downturn, the people of Ireland will now have to become content with 3 holidays and year, not four and maybe only 2 cars in the driveway and not 3!!!!!

I just wonder what 2008 figures will bring. I know im trying to clear as much debt as possible as I want to start putting money in the bank. Just dont like the current climate.

Quoting 777way (Reply 12):
PIA planning Dublin from January http://www.dawn.com/2008/08/08/local4.htm, however Barcelona has priority if both cant be launched together. DUB would be most likey from Lahore or Islamabad either nonstop or via Dubai if not a European city with A310.

If true this would be great. I miss them after they pulled SNN

Quoting EireRock (Reply 10):
Im guessing this is your new arrival JWMD123, congratulations to you and your family

WOW congrats , what a wonderful thing. All my best to you and your family.


User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1386 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8658 times:



Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 11):
Whats happening with the 330 fleet? Is a 330 being returned to the lessor next summer? I'd just heard they were waiting to see what will happen with oil etc, and if oil stayed high, they would wet-lease a 330 out to another carrier. I know on ei.com at the AGM they said the fleet wouldn't grow beyond the current 9 units, and that the new 330 next year would replace one a/c. So if this does happen, will one 330-300 be refitted with new cabins?

Posted on the A330 on the move thread but the basic changes at the moment are:

EI-CRK goes in Feb
EI-EWR goes in May - back to ILFC

This years A333E - MSN 985 has been deferred until 2010.
MSN 1025 & 1046 are due to arrive to replace CRK/EWR in 09
EI-DUO/DUZ have new cabin along 2 new A333's plus EI-JFK/DAA/LAX get the new cabin I heard, leaving ORD/DUB in the old interiors.

I may have the cabin outfitting a little wrong, but that is what I remember of the top of my head.

Pilot21



Aircraft I've flown: A300/A310/A320/A321/A330/A340/B727/B732/B733/B734/B735/B738/B741/B742/B744/DC10/MD80/IL62/Bae146/AR
User currently offlineEISHN From Ireland, joined Feb 2007, 1509 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8653 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
Ryanair hopes to buy 200 new planes at bargain price

You know, I heard that FR have bought several Airbus aircraft before, but then just sell them off to other airlines, or lease them off, and the same with their massive Boeing order, selling them off, leasing them to someone else, or doing a lease back agreement, so I wouldn't be surprised if they continued this if they place some massive order.

Quoting Aer Lingus (Reply 4):
China, Chine, China.........why oh why are we still waiting. PEK is within range. surely a 3x weekly service on a 332 would fill sufficiently with pax and cargo. the amount of chinese flying home and back is something i've lost count with. then there's tourism. LH are reaping the rewards. Even HKG is within range, a tie up with Cathay or Qantas........sigh

I absolutely agree there. An untapped market that could prove to be bursting at the seems with revenue for the airline, both in the cabin and in the hold.

Speaking of Chine, did anyone catch the opening ceremony of the 29th Olympics in Beijing today (or yesterday really for China)? Well, Holy God, that was some spectacle. Whatever people say about China and Tibet, and human rights, they sure can put on one hell of a show. Can't wait to see what London offers in 2012!

Quoting 777way (Reply 12):
PIA planning Dublin from January

Oooooooo, that's interesting. I would think it should work out. I believe their A310s are ex-SIA.

Quoting JWMD123 (Reply 5):
Baby girl Caoimhe Born 4.57pm on 7.8.08. Weight 7lb 9 1/2ozs. She is Beautiful

Congratulations man!



St. Flannan/ Fhlanain- She took off to find the footlights, And I took off for the sky
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12594 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8640 times:



Quoting EISHN (Reply 15):
Oooooooo, that's interesting. I would think it should work out. I believe their A310s are ex-SIA.

Holy Moley, didn't see that one coming. A310s would be a lovely sight, just didn't see PK as a likely contender for a DUB route. Good luck to them!

Quoting EISHN (Reply 15):
China, Chine, China.........why oh why are we still waiting. PEK is within range. surely a 3x weekly service on a 332 would fill sufficiently with pax and cargo. the amount of chinese flying home and back is something i've lost count with. then there's tourism. LH are reaping the rewards. Even HKG is within range, a tie up with Cathay or Qantas........sigh

If EI doesn't deliver the goods, can't the DAA get a Chinese carrier to do it; I think I recall the DAA CEO mentioning that the DAA has been in touch with some Chinese carriers re a Dublin route. Let's face it, there are four Chinese carriers - Hainan, Southern, Eastern and Air China - with 330s in service and many more (mostly -200s and -300Xs) on order. The time that the economy is faltering is not the time to slow down these efforts; it's EXACTLY the time to put the pedal to the metal; if EI doesn't want to do the business, stuff 'em and get a Chinese big hitter flying in here instead. Anyway, after the DXB debacle, EI would probably arse it up anyway.


User currently offlineIrish251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 982 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8623 times:



Quoting EISHN (Reply 15):
You know, I heard that FR have bought several Airbus aircraft before, but then just sell them off to other airlines, or lease them off, and the same with their massive Boeing order, selling them off, leasing them to someone else, or doing a lease back agreement, so I wouldn't be surprised if they continued this if they place some massive order.

No, Ryanair never actually ordered aircraft from Airbus, to the best of my knowledge. They might have taken out options on A320s in the early days but, if so, these were not proceeded with.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17147 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8608 times:



Quoting 777way (Reply 12):
PIA planning Dublin from January http://www.dawn.com/2008/08/08/local4.htm, however Barcelona has priority if both cant be launched together. DUB would be most likey from Lahore or Islamabad either nonstop or via Dubai if not a European city with A310.

That is really great news for DUB. Hope it will work out for PIA.



Work Hard, Fly Right
User currently offlineEICVD From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2188 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8569 times:



Quoting JWMD123 (Reply 5):
Baby girl Caoimhe Born 4.57pm on 7.8.08. Weight 7lb 9 1/2ozs. She is Beautiful

Congratulations.

Quoting 777way (Reply 12):
PIA planning Dublin from January http://www.dawn.com/2008/08/08/local4.htm, however Barcelona has priority if both cant be launched together. DUB would be most likey from Lahore or Islamabad either nonstop or via Dubai if not a European city with A310

That would be something.If it was to become reality & route via DXB would it put pressure on EK ever starting DUB?


Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
If true this would be great. I miss them after they pulled SNN

When did the fly to SNN? Must have been a while ago.


User currently offlineAerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2860 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8557 times:



Quoting 777way (Reply 12):
PIA planning Dublin from January

YAY new exotic birds to see in Dublin! Sounds really cool.



Cabin crew blog http://dolefuldolegirl.blogspot.ie/
User currently offlineCallBell From Germany, joined Mar 2008, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8558 times:

They used to do a stopover in SNN years ago... I used to see their aircraft at the gate when operating flights via SNN. Its so long ago I can't remember the year or the aircraft!!

User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12594 posts, RR: 34
Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8530 times:



Quoting CallBell (Reply 21):
They used to do a stopover in SNN years ago... I used to see their aircraft at the gate when operating flights via SNN. Its so long ago I can't remember the year or the aircraft!!

I have a feeling it was 2002; they used SNN for a short time before moving over to MAN as their transatlantic hub They used mostly 747-300s.


User currently offlineEICVD From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2188 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8520 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 22):
have a feeling it was 2002; they used SNN for a short time before moving over to MAN as their transatlantic hub They used mostly 747-300s

I doubt PK were in SNN up till 2002, could you be mixing them up with RJ?


User currently onlineEI787 From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1513 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8481 times:

Etihad have a great fare to PEK at the moment - €500 return! Travel between now and 31st March!

25 ClassicLover : That is great! Meanwhile I'm on my way home. I was booked on QF1 SYD-BKK 1700 dep, and it's been delayed until 2020, which means I'd miss my connecti
26 Post contains links Kaitak : You could be right; I was just trying to remember the year by reference to other events. I recall seeing a PK 743 at DUB, which was diverted from SNN
27 Dstc47 : Indeed they did have a plan to buy Airbus. Airbus even painted one of their A320 demonstrators in Ryanair colours but the options were not taken up a
28 OA260 : There is a quite large Pakistani community here in Ireland. Even a Pakistani supermarketa few doors down from the entrance to Jervis center before yo
29 MainMAN : I'm surprised about this. I would have thought there would have be tens of thousands of ex-pat Pakistanis to make a PK service viable. Norway has a p
30 Aerdingus : pretty much what i was thinking thats mad!
31 Aerdingus : Well holy god, thats some weather out there. Would there have been a knock on effect @ EIDW?
32 Post contains images F1eddie : Hey guys. I was exremely bored last night to i went out to the airport. Now i know nothing bout runways but i think they were using runway 16( well at
33 F1eddie : Tis bad alright. Was anyone watching the GAA. Poor galway.
34 Aer Lingus : the adrenalin rush i used to get as a kid back in the days of the FR BAC 1-11's as they landed on 16......the 732's weren't half bad either. once had
35 777way : PIA quit Shannon in April 2000, 743s were wearing the new floral tail livery at the time.
36 Toulouse : Now would that be the runway originally used before 28 and others were built (also don't have much of a clue about runways). remember going spotting
37 AmricanShamrok : Could A330s use this runway? I didn't think it had the distance to handle heavies...
38 Kaitak : Just because oil falls $25 overnight doesn't mean that you immediately cut your surcharges. Fuel being bought by airlines today isn't for use tomorro
39 EICVD : Yes 16 really is the best runway for the aviation enthusiast. If only it was in use more often. Much more fun going there when its dark, you get daze
40 Kaitak : Actually, the very first A330 to join EI landed on 16 on its delivery flight; I was there, watching as it arrived - lovely Summer's evening in 1994!
41 Shamrock321 : I once see the SQ 744F take off on 34, the opposite direction to 16 most of the time when 16 is being used the A330s will just use 10.
42 F1eddie : Yeah it was great. Never been that close (other than being inside) to an A/C landing. Well i was there from about 23.10 > 24.00. It had a constant fl
43 Post contains links and images Irish251 : The photo database on this site contains lots of pictures of aircraft at Dublin airport in its earlier days. Actually runway 05/23 (previously 06/24)
44 EICVD : Saw a few arrive & depart before I went away back in early July. Cant really remember but the odd one might have departed from 10 that morning. Only
45 Neutral : I spend many a sunday afternoon watching the planes at the old 5/23 runway,Forest Little golf course just behind.The odd time you would hear this very
46 Post contains links and images Aer Lingus : Anyone else remember these? Some of my earliest airport memories consisted of the sound of those RR Tyne engines whirling up on the cargo ramp at 8 in
47 Irish251 : N810AX for Monarch from SFB.
48 Kaitak : Thanks for sharing those terrific shots, Irish251. I haven't taken many shots at 16/34, largely because it isn't in use that often, but I do recall ta
49 Post contains links Kaitak : FR warning that it may have over-expanded fleet: http://www.tribune.ie/business/artic...-may-have-over-expanded-its-fleet/ This despite hints of a sig
50 OA260 : I wonder if there is a way to get figures of population here Ireland?? Thanks for the info .[Edited 2008-08-10 00:59:27]
51 Toulouse : I couldn't agree more with you Kaitak. " target=_blank>http://www.worldairpics.com/photo/10...54/M/ Thanks for all that Irish251, yes indeed it was 0
52 Aerdingus : Thats my fave spot! Never had a heavy go over though, I'd say that would be A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
53 EISHN : If you think that's fun, try standing next to the runway at Shannon as an Antonov 224 blasts out of there like a Saturn V rocket! An almighty experie
54 Aerdingus : Hiya! Are Antonov's regular @ Shannon? There seems to be really cool aircraft to see down there, better than Dublin. I know that sounds silly but the
55 COEI2007 : I dont think we all drink the Lingus kool-aid, and we all do criticise EI on a regular basis. DXB was a joke, but at least the 330's will be updated
56 B747forever : EI 174 has diverted to LTN due to the evacuation of the twr at LHR.
57 ThrottleHold : Saturday's EI109 departed at 0145 this morning, and today's is scheduled for 2330. Both hire-ins. Last night was a EuroAtlantic TriStar.
58 Kaitak : So, which of the 330s is out sick - and why?
59 Aerdingus : Ah I really wana fly Dublin - Shannon on an A330, for the craic, but I'd LOVE it if I got subbed on to an Omni DC10 or a Euroatlantic L1011! I'll be l
60 Irish251 : The Omni is N531AX; presumably the same crew are taking it out tonight as flew it in as EI108 this morning. There were at least two Titan B737s operat
61 Tonymctigue : Hi guys, back from a week's hols in Donegal so have not had access to the net in a while. I was up around CFN one of the days and saw a Spanish regist
62 Kaitak : Yes, I know what you mean; I'd particularly love to fly on an Omni DC10, as I've never been on a DC10-30 before (only a -40, many years ago, with Nor
63 EISHN : Hey there! To be perfectly honest, I don't know how regular they are. I haven't been to the airport in about two months, and didn't recall seeing one
64 Tonymctigue : They are regular enough visitors to SNN but they do go through long absences as well. There seems to be no fixed schedule as to when they are there s
65 Post contains links JWMD123 : Thanks guys for all the messages. All going well. On an aviation note, I seen in the SBP that the EI sub-committee is going into full swing to look a
66 Post contains links OA260 : Hi all , got quite a good spotting as we sailed out of Amsterdam last night, Was sitting on my balcony and heard an aircraft quite low. They seem to c
67 EISHN : The best visitors at Shannon, are the surprise ones, like some ancient Soviet aircraft sitting by one of the hangars, or an Evergreen 747, the regula
68 Bramble : Maybe someone at FR has been reading the A.net discussions.
69 Kaitak : I saw on PPRUNE that the reason for the cancellation of the 109 was the lack of cockpit crew; the cabin crew showed up, but the airline was unable to
70 Tonymctigue : Yes SNN does throw up some interesting visitors and the ancient Soviet AC are a real treat. You still get treated to the odd TU154 or even the odd IL
71 Kaitak : Absolutely; for point to point traffic, it's too short a route, but it certainly makes sense to feed into other traffic; I'd also be interested in se
72 EICVD : I cant really give a comment on traffic but that new stretch of motorway that has opened recently will help. It only took me just over an hour & a ha
73 Tonymctigue : Yes I heard about that new stretch. It is motorway all the way from Ahhhlone to Dublin now. I'm sure getting as far as the M50 will be fine. I'm more
74 Shamrock321 : The likes of EI603/521/631 feed a reasonable amount of traffic onto SNN, EI send those passengers down in mini buses when they misconnect, they could
75 Irish251 : In December, at that time of day you can expect to hit fairly bad traffic approaching Dubllin and getting around the M50 (though from around the end
76 Smokeyrosco : From Athlone to the Airport in less then two hours, probably less then an hour an a half. I was the second member of the public to use the new stretc
77 Post contains links Kaitak : Ceremony to mark 50th anniversary of KLM Constellation crash: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...eland/2008/0812/1218477338906.html 99 people kill
78 Tonymctigue : That would be great. The biggest problem with the current SNN-DUB schedule is that all flights are early morning/afternoon but there are no evening f
79 JWMD123 : It's a shame DUB is not mentioned but I would take something from Tim Clarks comment "We have hundreds of places to go" I think DUB will eventually g
80 EIDAA : From the Irish Spotters mail group, it appears the next two RE aircraft will be delivered this evening, EI-REO and EI-REP. According to "corkspotter",
81 OA260 : Very true. Nothing worse then having a 4 star product with a 3 star ground service. I'm hoping that T2 will have at least 3 large lounges with top cl
82 EI320 : Hi guys, Flew SNN-ACE yesterday morning with IWD (Iberworld) and I have to say it was disappointing. The A320 was packed with 180 pax, very little leg
83 Tonymctigue : I suppose the SNN-DUB supplements TA passenger revenues nicely for EI, especially since the plane is operating a SNN-DUB segment anyway they may as w
84 EICVD : Just read that on skyliner-aviation's website. I guess the swiftair aircraft will be heading back to Spain now.
85 OA260 : Can anyone help with yesterdays BA 8086 Reg ?? I forgot to get it ....thanks
86 BrianDromey : This proceedure is part of the CTA. Basically the BP becomes your photo ID for domestic & ROI flights. They definately do it at LHR T1 now, because o
87 Post contains links EIDAA : Looks like it was G-GFFJ... from http://www.acarsd.org ACARS mode: 1 Aircraft reg: G-GFFJ [Boeing B735] Message label: ** Block id: @ Msg no: 2633 Fl
88 EICVD : In tonights Evening Herald theres a story about Pier D being flooded. A mother & her young baby slipped & according to a witness " It was absolute cha
89 Post contains links and images Kaitak : Spanish authorities want questions answered about FR plans to cancel bookings made through third parties. (I was wondering when this might happen - su
90 Post contains links Kaitak : Some good news for Aer Arann in the Skytrax airline awards: http://www.worldairlineawards.com/Awards_2008/Lowcost-08.htm Third best regional low cost
91 Bramble : Optimisim over experience here! I didn't hear about any flooding in Pier D. However I would assume a lot of moisture was carried in with inbound pax
92 Kaitak : Yes, very good point; had never thought about that, but it makes sense - particularly with the weather being so lousy recently. Yes, but aren't the s
93 EICVD : Very good point. The whole story was probably over-exagerated anyway, after all it was in the herald!
94 Irish251 : As opposed, I presume, to just a normal level of exaggeration!!!
95 Gosimeon : Maybe, but on the Joe Duffy show (fair and balanced as always) angry callers were saying Dublin Airport was pumping water onto nearby roads to cope w
96 Post contains links OA260 : Ok here is my BA Club Europe TR . Also alot of pics of T2 . Certainly coming along a treat. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/re
97 Shamrock321 : If EI pax are travelling one ine ticket and they missconnect EI will of course rebook them onto the next flight. I see it myself everyday working in t
98 Temph0 : not necessarily off topic, but I was wondering if anyone has information on how well Aer Arran is doing financially? Low-cost carriers are generally u
99 Post contains images OA260 : Yuck..... I hate weddings. I'm really trying to think up an excuse to get out of one in a few months. Im allergic to them LOL.... Does anyone have an
100 Post contains links F1eddie : http://www.oxfordaviation.net/history.htm At the bottom right of the page isnt that an EI bird... Wow DUB is coming along well....
101 OA260 : The Aer Lingus enjoy your flight Ad was playing on Sky News tonight. The one with the guy who has a neck harness. Also noticed the Evening Standard in
102 AirNZ : Then why don't you start it.......by calling it by it's proper name of Aer Lingus. Sorry, you've lost me there. Could you explain that contradiction
103 Toulouse : Same happened to me a while back in LGW as well. And the picture that came up for me was a woman. Must say the security guard just laughed and critic
104 Tonymctigue : Yes, Ireland really wasn't designed for remote stands yet that's all they seem to built nowadays. There is nothing worse than getting on a plane havi
105 OA260 : Yes me also. Ireland is well placed to ride out the current economic down turn and to be honest I dont think it will last as long as people make out.
106 EireRock : Good point, and another thing about Pier D is the fact that the stands like 82/83/84 have a long walk from a/c to the terminal and in the last few ni
107 Aer Lingus : Where did the 6 aibridges from Pier C disappear to? they should use them. also since Pier D opened AA, EY and EI longhaul are regular users. Cant imag
108 Shamrock321 : A gate is a gate to most airlines and I know EY dont really mind being in D!
109 COEI2007 : Yeah, flew with them 2 weeks ago and they were poor. The crew were really rude Just came in on EI104, and we had loads of pax connecting. Mostly to B
110 OA260 : How long have FI been sending their A/C to DUB for?? Never seen them in DUB before and got some pics in my TR. Was nice to see something different.
111 LUPOR1D : Just arrived back in SNN after a trip down to FAO. Both were full, overall good flights. Suprisingly there was alot of people from Galway and Cork on
112 Post contains links OA260 : Has anyone stayed here ?? If so whats the feedback? http://www.delphimountainresort.com/ ( Connemara )
113 Shamrock350 : Hello everyone! I've been away for a few days as I'm back home for a week. The LHR-ORK flight on Thursday was good, the crew seemed a bit tired and th
114 BrianDromey : Remote stands are not ideal, but when FR and EI refuse to pay for, much less use them due to coast and turn-time issues what are the airports suppose
115 Shamrock350 : Yeah that photo is also used on one of those flight sim covers. That advert is going to start being known as "the one with the guy who has a neck har
116 Kaitak : I wouldn't pick Jersey; we've had a bloody awful Summer so far! Incidentally, Blessed Michael of Athlone was on the BBC's Hard Talk programme (usuall
117 EI320 : What if you are travelling on 2 separate EI tickets and you misconnect? Understandably EI aren't required to accommodate you in a case like this, but
118 EICVD : I dont think the fly to DUB on a regular basis but have seen one of the aircraft on the ground a few times before. There cargo division had an a/c op
119 Post contains links OA260 : Thats a great program and Stephen is quite good. The last one I saw was with the Serbian Foreign minister it was good. You can see the MOL one here :
120 Kaitak : If you have only hand baggage and miss your connection, I think it's tough luck. However, if you have baggage and they "tag" you through to your fina
121 COEI2007 : I think it depends. If it was LHR where there are loads of flights per day, they might do it, obviously if your nice, but it depends!
122 Tonymctigue : You are dead right. The DAA are only supplying demand by building little else other than remote stands. As convenient as air bridges are, they do cos
123 Kaitak : That's all very well, but as we know (and we don't need to look much further than this month to remind us), boarding an aircraft in bad weather is no
124 AmricanShamrok : Here at O'Hare there are NO gates without airbridges PanAm had something similar at their World Port at JFK. This was before the advent of airbridges
125 B747forever : It should be so at least on every major airport. So annoying without airbridges.
126 EICVD : Dont know where I saw this before but in some airport they have covered walkways that extend from the gate out to the aircraft. Doubt this would work
127 BrianDromey : EI have a few of those at ORK! It is a bit of help, because people can remain at the bottom of the stairs inside the terminal until the bottom of the
128 Shamrock321 : If an airline sells you connecting flight on one ticket and you miss a connection they are obliged to look after you. Im off to ALC on Monday with EI
129 Bramble : Have had this recently on 2 BCN-DUB flights. Respectively 31 and 27 pax going on to US723. It gives it a more personable feel. EI held pax onboard se
130 Post contains links Kaitak : Some interesting rumours - and news - about Aer Lingus and Scotland: GLA or EDI is being considered as one of THREE possible new bases for Aer Lingus
131 Tonymctigue : Yes but how many LCC's operate to O'Hare? The simple fact of the matter that in DUB, the biggest carrier out and out refuses to pay for airbridges an
132 OA260 : Aer Lingus has some amazing BFS fares for October. AMS from £2 each way plus taxes. All in £72.72.
133 GrahamHill : Hello, I went to Paris this week with EI and went back yesterday. And again (for the 3rd or 4th time in a row), the flight has been delayed by almost
134 Smokeyrosco : The problem with that is the DAA chop and change stands all the time, so what might be suitable now may not be in a few months, I actually think this
135 COEI2007 : Thats true. Just like how Pier D is being extended soon, so they may put in airbridges then. Its rediculous that longhaul flights arrive at Pier D an
136 Post contains links OA260 : 50 Years since the KLM crash off the Irish coast . Air crash victims mourned Galway yesterday paid respect to the 99 people who perished in an air-cra
137 GrahamHill : Which is quite often in your beautiful country
138 Humberside : EDI would be hard for any new entrant, with FR, EZY and GSM there, plus Jet 2 (albeit a smaller operation). Yes there are some gaps - Venice, Budapes
139 COEI2007 : Apparently DUB-CPH, ORK-PRG and DUB-RIX are gone, although I wonder is this just for the winter! The hotel we use in LAX has a contact with EI for roo
140 OA260 : Loaded in timetable but not bookable so could be . 1.3.5.7 DUB RIX 1500 2000 EI 398 320 1.345.7 DUB CPH 0640 0950 EI 622 320
141 COEI2007 : Never did CPH, but RIX was always busy, but maybe its not making money!
142 Shamrock321 : Surprised if RIX gets the chop, but CPH was never going to work, they had tried wice before and it failed twice what made them think it would work thi
143 Post contains links Provance : From RTE's travel section As Aer Lingus withdraw from the Copenhagen route for winter, Scandinavian Airlines have sent a reminder that they fly twice
144 BrianDromey : I suppose it could be quite lucrative. Again, I feel that MAN would be a market where a smaller aircraft like E-Jets/C series would do well for EI. M
145 Richcandy : Yes as long as both flights are on the same eticket. Example: If you bought a ticket from Dublin to Amsterdam with BMI via Heathrow and the Dublin -
146 OA260 : Its a shame SK are not in healthier shape. 500 more jobs to go and more cut backs. Are LG still flying some of the routes from DUB?
147 EICVD : I wonder could anyone help me out here? My dad was driving past the airport around 4pm or shortly after. Now he has no interest in aviation at all & h
148 Post contains links and images DavecFlyer : There was a Jet Tran Air MD80 due in this afternoon from Lourdes. I suspect this is what your Dad saw... View Large View MediumPhoto © Uwe Lokow
149 Shamrock321 : LG are no longer operating any SK routes into DUB. EI-CVD sounds like a Titan Airways or JetX cant think of anything else.
150 EICVD : Thanks lads. My first thought was it was Titan but im sure it was the Jet Tran now. Saw it before so I didnt miss anything.
151 DavecFlyer : I received the August edition of the Irish Air Letter today. Some snippets of news... Ryanair have contacted the Dept of Transport and offered to oper
152 B747forever : Agree with you. It is really sad to see SAS in this way. Well, why would EI otherwise hire rooms?? I really hope they will start the LAX service agai
153 EICVD : Sad news alright, pretty obvious that FR's flights to BTS would have also hurt them. Agree with you about there colour scheme, one of the most easily
154 AmricanShamrok : I was expecting Kosice to be terminated but this is very unexpected. How long has NE been operating at Cork?
155 BrianDromey : I suppose it is all relative. If you look at the shorter FR and EI routes to the UK versus the likes of PAR, BCN, AMS, MXP, etc the fares are often n
156 Tonymctigue : I reckon LAX will be back next summer. The main threat to LAX is the SFO route and so it probably doesn't make sense to operate both on a year round
157 B747forever : Well I wish for the best.
158 Post contains links OA260 : Ryanair memo contradicts rival airline's abuse claims By Laura Noonan Friday August 15 2008 EXECUTIVES at Aer Arann were last night left reeling after
159 EI564 : I suppose Pier E will solve this, since it will have airbridges. I doubt the DAA is going to spend money upgrading Pier D in the meantime.
160 Tonymctigue : Not good for RE. I really hope RE pull through but if not, could we see them being bought out by EI if they got them at a knock down price?
161 COEI2007 : I'd say if it comes back it will be for the summer only. Maybe next winter, something will be launched to take its place, like CPT! I'd say they woul
162 B747forever : That would be really exciting.
163 EICVD : I cant see EI flying to CPT for along time. IMO I dont think we'll see any non US destinations untill the 350s arrive.
164 B747forever : And when is EIs first A350 scheduled to be delivered?
165 OA260 : Very true . They need a quality consistant product.
166 Richcandy : How did the CPT charter that operated last winter do?
167 Smokeyrosco : Thats the rumor
168 Shamrock321 : The once weekly CPT charter operated by LTU has been operating for a few years now and does very very well load wise.
169 EI320 : Surprised to see PRG gone, I'd imagine yields were the problem. Loads ex DUB were very high, almost 100% on my flights but fares to/from PRG are gene
170 Post contains links OA260 : AXED!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dublin flight diverted after on-board trouble A charter flight travellin
171 Kaitak : I thought that had been stopped? Is it going ahead again this coming Winter. Jethros says 2014-16. And the new runway is delayed until 2014, so no As
172 Tango29 : Could'nt agree more, they should have been locked up in venice and not allowed to fly home from venice, i also heard they caused damage onboard the a
173 Aer Lingus : knock on F6 delays seemed to be an 8hr delay to this morning's menorca rotation and a 5hr one tho this evenings catania rotation.
174 Shamrock350 : Shame to hear that CPH has been cut, it never lasts long with Aer Lingus so maybe they're happy going back to it every few years and make as much mone
175 COEI2007 : I see IAD is reduced to 3 weekly from Jan to Mar, probably to accomadate the refurb's of the 330-200's!
176 B747forever : Wow, that is a long time without any expansion to east.
177 BrianDromey : Seems reports of FRA were somewhat premature, LIS got the nod instead, 2x weekly from March, although there is still 2x weekly slots free in the EI f
178 AmricanShamrok : It's FlyLAL-Shannon all over again... Could we not expand 10/28?
179 Kaitak : We could, of course, but the interest simply isn't there - either at DAA or at govt level.
180 Post contains links Kaitak : Apparently, the five men who caused the fracas on board the Futura Gael 737 were released without charge by the Italians: http://www.independent.ie/na
181 OA260 : Thats an absolute disgrace and sends the wrong signal out . They were probably laughing after. Hopefully like you say the Irish authorities will act
182 Smokeyrosco : Good girl, she made the rounds on the radio stations yesterday! Must have heard her at least 3 times. Good to have it from the passengers point of vi
183 Bramble : March 28 to be exact so expect DUB to resume on March 30th 2009. Not with the current defensive mentality of EI managment. When is DMs 3 years up ago
184 Shamrock350 : Aer Lingus Cargo have announced a fuel surcharge decrease so maybe there could be a decrease on the way for passengers as Aer Lingus Cargo usually ann
185 OA260 : Quite alot of delays in DUB today. Anyone know why the EI to FCO was cancelled? Maybe the delays are due to weather?? Its monsoon like rains all day u
186 Shamrock321 : The 402 operated as normal the 403 says cancelled on the DAA website flightstats shows it 2 hours late. I have a cabin crew friend who sent me a text
187 COEI2007 : So it was just a suspension afterall! Good, hopefully I might see LAX next year! Yeah, its Autumn 09! We will see what happens then! lol! CPT is a pi
188 EICVD : Probably all forgotten about now. The courts in this country really are terrible. Hopefully FGL wont forget about it & prosecute those involvded. Pro
189 Post contains links OA260 : Anyone know why this diverted to Aldergrove?? Glasgow BE132 20:25 Diverted to Algergrove http://www.belfastcityairport.com/ftp/arrivals.asp Is is due
190 AmricanShamrok : Lots of delays at DUB tonight. Bristol Ryanair FR507 16-08-2008 17:30 Delayed 0305 Las Palmas Spanair JKK3879 16-08-2008 21:20 Delayed 0317 Almeria Ry
191 OA260 : I would love to see FR's on time figures at DUB over the last few months. I have noticed alot of severe delays on many flights.
192 DavecFlyer : Ryanair must be down an aircraft this morning as the FR112 to LGW has been operated by the Flightline MD80 G-FLTK ACARS mode: 1 Aircraft reg: G-FLTK [
193 Post contains links OA260 : More diplomacy from MOL. Fire them all and cut taxes: O'Leary By RONALD QUINLAN Sunday August 17 2008 THE bad news is "the world is in shite" and ther
194 EIDAA : Completely agree! Woeful behaviour and I can't believe they were just released like that! B####rds! Congrats on another A.net birthday Kaitak! Anyway
195 B747forever : Congrats Kaitak on your 9th year here on A.net. Amazing, 9years is a really long time. Hope everything will go fine for you. How long will you stay in
196 Gosimeon : I read what he had to say today and was fairly impressed. I'd vote for him. An Irishman who doesn't fumble over issues; deadly! I assume it will be a
197 Shamrock350 : Earlier on in the thread it was said that PIA could be coming to DUB next year. Would be great to see that!
198 Irish251 : He can get away with statements like this because he doesn't have to get elected. This largely about publicity for Ryanair and trying to bolster the
199 OA260 : Indeed it would especially if they landed in DXB and had rights to carry DUB-DXB . Would give us back the DXB route also. Other idea would be DUB-BCN
200 Kaitak : It would be good; mind you, with the political situation in Pakistan right now, I can't help wondering how many people of Pakistani descent might wan
201 EIDAA : Thanks. Only going for a week, back Saturday - It's just a business trip this time. Agree, without EK onward connections at DXB, a PK service to Duba
202 OA260 : True , I heard a coup is a real possibility but I really hope not . I was not thinking about the EK thing . There is already an A310 operating betwee
203 Shamrock321 : Well Ill make you all jealous, as we speak EI-CPH has arrived from FCO and her next assingment will be to carry me south to ALC on EI570 tommorow morn
204 Post contains links and images AmricanShamrok : A pic from the Chicago Air & Water Show >>> Speaking of new routes, who would be the most likely airline to start new transatlantic services from SNN?
205 Tonymctigue : These thugs should absolutely be charged. Send them down to Co Clare to Judge Joseph Managan who in the past has imposed very severe penalties on air
206 B747forever : Okay, I see. Well hope you will enjoy your time there. I doubt that we will see anytime soon any new T/a service from SNN. BOS, JFK, EWR, ATL, ORD an
207 Post contains links OA260 : Stakes are high in race to fill Aer Lingus hot-seat By Nick Mulcahy Monday August 18 2008 YOU can tell the board at Aer Lingus is divided over its nex
208 LUPOR1D : We will.........soon Take my word
209 Sawtooth : O'Leary Air, or the return of the Ei stopover
210 OA260 : LOL.... or a chance to earn some Skyteam miles .
211 Shamrock604 : OA260 and LUPOR1D...... Stop speaking in tongues and dish the dirt... who's starting a new route?
212 Pilot21 : Not sure if pax can actually be picked up at SNN, but BA have just confirmed that the A318 LCY-JFK routing which starts next year will stop at SNN to
213 OA260 : I wonder how LH is doing on FRA ? I know they are very pleased with their BRS and NCL routes and report strong sales but I just wondered about the DUB
214 LUPOR1D : Wish I could say but I'm not at the liberty to unfortunately! (No its not O' Leary air or the return of the stopover either lol :P )
215 F1eddie : Ok so how long do we have to wait to hear then....
216 BrianDromey : Hopefully we will see a return of the Christmas J specials. I fancy ATH again! Brian.
217 EI320 : Is someone going to spill the beans?? LOL Or is it the BA flight from LCY your talking about? Which is great news and a much needed boost for SNN, wi
218 Legoguy : Dia duit guys. Quick question here, my girlfriend and I are flying from Helsinki to Dublin tomorrow with Aer Lingus and she has paid for 2 bags for he
219 Kaitak : It better not be; we put a stake through the stopover's heart and buried it at a crossroads; short of calling in Buffy & Co., not much more we can do
220 Shamrock604 : OA, From what I hear lufty are pretty happy with DUB, hence the launch of new routes to MUC, STR and TXL for the summer. FRA draws a lot of long haul
221 Shamrock604 : OK, so it's seems it's a Skyteam Transatlatic link. CO are probably on the way out of Skyteam, so we can rule them out. DL..... they already have ATL
222 EICVD : I really doubt they would launch DTW-SNN before DTW-DUB.
223 Post contains links OA260 : ZRH HQ have been asked for them again and they do appreciate that it brings people onto the flights that wouldnt normally be on them. When the loads
224 B747forever : Well always nice to see a BA A318 at SNN
225 Noora : Cheers Phil. Just what I feared. Thanks for the confirmation. Regards, Dave
226 Shamrock604 : Of course EICVD, but as DL, CO and US have all found out, there IS a strong market from SNN as well. Perhaps we would see DUB-DTW daily 757, and then
227 F1eddie : That doesn't help us to guess the T/A service..... SO again how long do we have to wait for some proper info.... Pity LX has shelved plans to go doub
228 BrianDromey : If the agent sticks to the letter of the rules then you should be charged for anything over the 20kg, however if you are both on the same PNR then I
229 Tango29 : If anyone is interested there is an unusual vsitor coming to Dublin twice tomorrow to pick up/drop off horses i reckon.... A6-QFY C-130 Hercules opera
230 OA260 : You mean the yellow thick timetable? They are nice . They also do a mini one half the size. EI have some amazing fares to CPH at the moment . I just
231 F1eddie : Yep thats the one... Just booked flights for my parents to go to birmingham in Oct. Got them for E85 ret. Its for a wedding i got out of... Anyway wh
232 OA260 : Yeah for me I chose EI over SK due to timings , I need to make a connection so EI was the only option. I would have preferred to fly SK J class by ca
233 BrianDromey : My theory is that most of those airlines have massive intercontinental networks that help to subsidise the cost of these 'frills'. Look at ZRH as an
234 Tonymctigue : While it cannot really be counted as a new airline/route from SNN, it is nonetheless a welcome development. It will be nice to see a new AC type and
235 Post contains images EICVD : Or maybe DL/NW will surprise us all with a DTW-SNN-DUB flight?  [Edited 2008-08-18 15:42:38]
236 Post contains links Srbmod : Please continue the discussion here: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4111722/
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