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WSJ: Lack Of Seats, Galleys Delays Boeing + Airbus  
User currently offlineRobffm2 From Germany, joined Dec 2006, 1124 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8182 times:

According to the Wall Street Journal delivery of new planes are delayed due to a lack of basic equipment, such as seats, galleys, toilets. This might hurt also their bottom lines:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1218...0821815.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news
(full article for subscribers only)

This story has been picked up by Der Spiegel, giving some more detail:
http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,570774,00.html
(in German)

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User currently offlineAABB777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 607 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7977 times:
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Because of the delay in galleys on the T7, EK has now twice delayed the launch of their LAX and SFO flights. What about QR's IAH launch. Any word on this being delayed even further?

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7945 times:

Lack of Seats, Galleys Delays Boeing, Airbus
By Daniel Michaels and J. Lynn Lunsford

Boeing recently missed its second-quarter earnings projections partly because three big widebody jetliners couldn't be delivered on time due to unfinished interiors. At Airbus, roughly 8% of widebody deliveries this year have faced some delay because of the problems, a top Airbus executive said.

Airbus, for example, has incurred big overtime expenses and lost productivity because the lack of certain parts has forced assembly work to be handled out of its planned sequence.

"You have a huge asset that's not moving, waiting on a galley," said Steve Schaffer, Boeing's vice president and general manager for supplier management. "It does disrupt our factory."

"We have launched firm dates three times only to have to defer because of Sell's late galleys," Mr. Clark said. He said the delays have undermined Emirates' credibility with travel agents and would-be travelers: "They no longer believe the dates we give them."

More information at The Wall Street Journal or Dow Jones Factiva document id: J000000020080808e4880003d



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User currently offlineKhobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7625 times:

Are the airlines lining up for compensation?

User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12594 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7432 times:



Quoting Khobar (Reply 3):
Are the airlines lining up for compensation?

Yes - everything, but the kitchen sink!


User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7356 times:



Quoting AABB777 (Reply 1):
What about QR's IAH launch. Any word on this being delayed even further?

Has been delayed one montth until Dec 8th, 2008. Will start 3x weekly and go daily
in Jan '09.



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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4022 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7302 times:



Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 5):

Quoting AABB777 (Reply 1):
What about QR's IAH launch. Any word on this being delayed even further?

Has been delayed one montth until Dec 8th, 2008. Will start 3x weekly and go daily
in Jan '09.

Most in Houston are aware that QR has pushed back their startup date one month to early Dec. I believe what he is asking is if like EK is doing to LAX/SFO, is QR going to put off their IAH launch for another month, say Jan?

Thomas



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User currently offlineAABB777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 607 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7175 times:
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Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 6):
I believe what he is asking is if like EK is doing to LAX/SFO, is QR going to put off their IAH launch for another month, say Jan?

Yes! Am asking if QR will delay the IAH launch for a second time. Any insight?


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21582 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7169 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 4):
Yes - everything, but the kitchen sink!

Only because you can't get a kitchen sink right now either...  Wink



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User currently offlineKhobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7098 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 4):
Yes - everything, but the kitchen sink!

Could you post a link?


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4022 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7066 times:



Quoting AABB777 (Reply 7):
Yes! Am asking if QR will delay the IAH launch for a second time. Any insight?

Well if it's the galley issue, then I would expect another delay, let's hope not. Hopefully someone will have additional information to share.

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineKhobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7049 times:

With the way some US airlines are going, they don't need galleys or toilets.

User currently offlineJAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1624 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6719 times:

Maybe this is a prime opportunity for the airlines to start charging for potty visits. Maybe put a quarter slot on the lavatory door. And simply leave those pesky galleys off the plane entirely. The airlines can pass out K-rations if necessary!

User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2234 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6707 times:
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Are the galleys for EK, QR etc so complex that the manufacturers simply can't make them the same way they make galleys for other airlines? Doesn't Sell have like 50 years of experience or so?


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User currently offlineA350 From Germany, joined Nov 2004, 1101 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6656 times:

At least the Spiegel Articlew mentions that the delays are at least partially related to exotic equipment such as rice cookers or expresso machines. Why can't A and B deliver just without those features and touch up once they have the stuff?

The airlines should just serve champagne instead of espresso and the manufacturer can pay for the champagne, then everybody is happy.

Cheers

A350



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User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3906 times:



Quoting AABB777 (Reply 7):
Yes! Am asking if QR will delay the IAH launch for a second time. Any insight?

I met with a QR manager this week, and the latest info is the start up on Dec 8th, no
further delays beyond this point.



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